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author: frtommy3    time: 2016-11-2 17:18:50     Title: I need experts opinions

Edited by frtommy3 at 2016-11-3 15:23

Hello,
I am a Vip 9 player in EU server.
I wasted so much $$ back in the day in this game, now it's almost 1 year i not topping up tons of $. i did only a little top up 10$ just for Reio.
I am a kind of F2P now.
Sadly i lost #1 in arena, #1 in CSB and #1 in Ryoka.

I need your opinion about PvP and PvE.
I am sorry for my wall of text.
I will tell you my roster, but first i want to say. ES in my server is useless. There are 3-4 players who waste tons of coupons and ES end in 2 mins or less. So i get almost no silver. So the only PvE event is Void and Ryoka.


Roster:

Lvl. 159 - Reincarnation lvl.3 - Main Kido ( lv.30 on 5th,8th,9th and 10th skill ) [ exclusive skill lvl. 19]
Lvl. 155 - Reincarnation lvl.3 - Nozarashi Kenpachi ( evo lvl.10 ) bond lvl.13 for HP and bond lvl.23 for block rate [ exclusive skill lvl. 19 ] [ modify 6 stars ]
Lvl. 147 - Reincarnation lvl.3 - Hikifune Kirio ( evo lvl.11 ) bond lvl.13 for Damage rate [ exclusive skill lvl. 26 ] [ modify 4 stars ]
Lvl. 152 - Reincarnation lvl.3 - Shura Kenpachi ( evo lvl.9 ) bond lvl.25 for physical attack [ exclusive skill lvl.19 ] [ modify 5 stars ]
Lvl. 152 - Reincarnation lvl.2 - Cute Orihime ( evo lvl.3 ) no bond [ exclusive skill lvl.19 ] [ no modify ]
Lvl. 151 - Reincarnation lv.2 - Ultima Aizen ( evo lvl.9 ) no bond [exclusive skill lvl.19 ] [ modify 2 stars ]
Lvl. 151 - Reincarnation lvl.2 - Oetsu Nimaiya ( evo lvl.9 ) bond lvl.12 for kido attack and lvl.12 for Damage rate [ exclusive skill lvl.19 ] [ modify 7 stars ]
Lvl. 148 - no reincarnation - Isshin Kurosaki ( evo lvl.10 ) no bond [ no exlcusive skill ] [ no modify ]
Lvl. 145 - no reincarnation - Kisuke Urahara ( evo lvl.4 ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ no modify ]
Lvl. 141 - no reincarnation - Zabimaru Renji ( evo lvl.8 ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] no modify ]
Lvl. 138 - Reincarnation lvl.2- Berserk Renji ( evo lvl.10 ) bond lv.18 for physical attack [ exclusive skill lvl.20 ] [ modify 5 stars ]
Lvl. 134 - no Reincarnation - Kyoka Suigetsu Aizen ( evo lvl.11 ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ no modify ]
Lvl. 134 - no Reincarnation - Coyote Starrk ( evo lvl.3 ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ no modify ]
Lvl. 132 - no Reincarnation - Dark Rukia ( evo lvl.4 ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ no modify ]
Lvl. 128 - no Reincarnation - Sexy Yoruichi ( evo lvl.3 ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ no modify ]
Lvl. 121 - no Reincarnation - Shinigami Urahara ( evo lvl.7 ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ no modify ]
Lvl. 121 - no Reincarnation - Gin Ichimaru ( evo lvl.11 ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ no modify ]
Lvl. 120 - no Reincarnation - Byakuya Kuchiki ( no evo ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ modify 5 stars ]
Lvl. 113 - no Reincarnation - Restu Unohana ( no evo ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ modify 4 stars ]
Lvl. 111 - no Reincarnation - Kirinji Tenjiro ( evo lvl.5 ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ modify 2 stars ]
Lvl. 111 - no Reincarnation - Hakuteiken Byakuya ( evo lvl.1 ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ no modify ]
Lvl. 110 - no Reincarnation - Resurreccion Ulquiorra ( no evo ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ no modify ]
Lvl. 108 - no Reincarnation - Shinigami Yoruichi ( no evo ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ modify 2 stars ]
Lvl. 106 - no Reincarnation - Sosuke Aizen ( no evo ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ no modify ]
Lvl. 101 - no Reincarnation - Pantera Grimmjow ( no evo ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ no modify ]
Lvl. 101 - no Reincarnation - White Ichigo ( no evo ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ no modify ]
Lvl. 101 - no Reincarnation - Toshiro Hitsugaya ( no evo ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ no modify ]
Lvl. 101 - no Reincarnation - Kaname Tosen ( no evo ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ modify 3 stars ]
Lvl. 100 - no Reincarnation - Harribel ( no evo ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ modify 5 stars ]
Lvl. 100 - no Reincarnation - Komamura Sajin ( no evo ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ modify 4 stars ]
Lvl. 100 - no Reincarnation - Rukia Kuchiki ( no evo ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ no modify ]
Lvl. 100 - no Reincarnation - Yasutora Sado ( no evo ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ no modify ]
Lvl. 80 - no Reincarnation - Gamuza Nelliel ( no evo ) no bond [ no exclusive skill ] [ no modify ]


Zanpakuto:

Muramasa - Hogyoku-kai - fortify lvls. 50-50-60
Sogyo no Kotowari - Hogyoku-kai - fortify lvls. 50-50-30
Hyorinmaru - Hogyoku-kai - fortify lvls. 10-11-15
Senbonzakura - Hogyoku-kai - fortify lvls. 60-50-50
Zangetsu - Hogyoku-kai - fortify lvls. 50-50-12
Zabimaru - Hogyoku-kai - fortify lvls. 1-1-1
the other f2p zanpakuto are all BANKAI and no Fortify


Formations:
PvP  from fastest to slowest
Muramasa
T1 Hikifune > T1 Main 10th skill > T1 Ultima Aizen > T1 Nimaiya > T1 Nozarashi Kenpachi    ( i need this order coz in my server there are 2 players with  Nozarashi Block and Hp stacks and i couldn't have chance without clearing their team and Nimaiya )


atm i am 2nd in Arena and Guild War and 9th in CSB. the 2 players from my server with god nozarashi are in front of me in CSB, even if i can kill them in my arena.


PvE  from fastest to slowest
Senbonzakura
T1 Cute Orihime > (95/100fury) Berserk Renji > T1 Main 8th skill > (94/100fury) Shura Kenpachi > T1 Nozarashi Kenpachi


ES i not even change formation anymore coz end in 2 mins or less and i stay with pvp formation.
Ryoka end at wave 80 and usually i am 3rd


VOID  from fastest to slowest
Zangetsu
T1 Cute Orihime > T1 Hikifune > (95/100fury) Berserk Renji > T1 Main 10th skill > (90/100fury) Byakuya Kuchiki


Usually i am doing 10 mil - 12 mil every fight.


Strategy:
I am saving coupons for Visored Revenge, until i have 15100 coupons to get all the rewards. I am saving Vitality until 11000 to get UBP partners/Zanpakuto. I am saving Red fragment from Soul Coltivation reset to buy the fourth Red Hogyoku ( Godlike Kido ATK & Speed ).I am saving modify fragments in my Urahara, Harribel, Komamura, Tosen and Unohana to Inherit them.
I have 6x Ultimate lvl 100 gear. I have full set  Galaxy Blade lvl.100 for Shura Kenpachi,  a full Bloodyslay Rune lvl.100 for Main Kido and i have a Forged lvl 140 4/6 spirit forged for Hikifune to maximize his speed.
All my PvE weapon have lvl 159 fortify and PvP have Psychic. Hikifune boots are lvl 159 fortify.
Reiatsu lvl.115
BP 4 246 211
I have Lvl. 15 Hogyoku Godlike Phy ATK & speed
Hogyoku Lvl.14 Godlike DMG & Speed
Hogyoku Lvl.4 Godlike Phy ATK & HP

After this wall of Text what i ask is your opinion.

What should i do to improve my strategy/team ?
I think i could have a better formation for Void and Ryoka for example.
Let me know what you will do and if you need more info or some screenshoot.

Thank you for all the time u spent on my thread.
author: Brahmastra    time: 2016-11-2 17:27:49

Please post some BR's. I fail to understand how you lose.
author: LadyKyojin    time: 2016-11-2 17:35:59

Edited by LadyKyojin at 2016-11-2 22:37

hmm i think i came to see your stats in your server i cant beat you in csb, now i know why lol, i can see there is alot of spreading going on with your partners and team i suggest work on one max them out then move to your 2nd priority in the long run you will be stronger i notice alot just spread exclusive frags on every partner its not the way if you have to work on ex for 2 and 3 the absolute maximum . have 2 two team and stick with it pvp or pve.
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-11-2 18:45:58

I don't know if I'm an Expert, but I do enjoy giving my opinion, so here's exactly that.
PVP
Muramasa
Oetsu
CSB Aizen     Main(10th)    Noza
Hikifune

PVE
Sogyo
Cute Orihime        B Renji
                           Main(8th)
Hikifune               Shura Kenpachi


Void
Zangetsu
pvp party


CSB Aizen would swap gear with Shura Kenpachi for party changes
Noza would swap with B Renji
Oetsu would swap with Cute Orihime

You want 3 assaulters and no vanguard in events to raise your block damage (3 blocks vs just 1)  once you stop one shotting ryokas, watch the first round of your fights after, you can tell by the first round if your assaulters are lasting 3 rounds.  If your assaulters can last 3 rounds your better off with 3 assaulters vs 2 assaulters vs one vanguard, also, If your willing to build up your Sexy Yourichi, I'd put her over Shura Kenpachi as I'm sure your block stat is already very nice on all 3 of your assaulters, making his skill MUCH less nifty, yes his damage rate is 50% higher than Sexy's is, her stats are better, plus she uses a Ghost Blade, not a spirit blade, plus she builds fury for everyone, AND boosts all of your supports damage by 10% from skill, and another 10% from mods (BTW, from personal tests, I can say with 100% certainty, Isshin is much worse than Sexy Yourichi or Shura Kenpachi in PVE, no question.
author: badbone    time: 2016-11-2 18:57:47

I feel stupid cant help i  lost myself in the well of eternity
author: Devvoke2    time: 2016-11-2 20:50:09

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author: frtommy3    time: 2016-11-3 01:33:01

Edited by frtommy3 at 2016-11-3 09:01

First of all i want to thank you guys for the opinions.

@Devvoke2 I can't and i won't top up so much anymore, so i can't have Jakka.

@badbone come on dude. feel free to write your opinion XD ( the title says EXPERTS coz it's months i don't read anymore the forum to learning something new )

@MylarHyrule PvP formation SWP Aizen ( Ultima Aizen ) help me vs the GOD NOZARASHI in my server. Why u say to change him with CSB Aizen ? I will paste here the Battlereport ( if it works ) of CSB, and vs first 4 players in my arena. So u can understand better the situation.
PvE formation, as i wrote in the wall of text XD Ryoka in my server ends at wave 80. I should have 90% block on my 3 assoulters if i use my block stones + cute orihime.....BUT i am not sure if they will live for 3 rounds, i should check it this evening.
At this point pls, tell me what i should do with Inherit options on my characthers and what zanpakuto i should focus. If i should. I have no problem to use my last 1300 golds to inherit stuff if worth it.

@Ladykyojin Thank you for your opinion too. I undestood your opinion but i am not english, and your english was a little hard to understand for me. So,  I have no problem to use my last 1300 golds to inherit stuff if worth it. What i should maximize ( i think Hikifune ? for pvp ) and the second priority ( Beserk Renji for pve ? ). Let me know your strategy, if u were in my shoes.

@Brahmastra I will report some Battle, if copy paste with TORCH browser works. I lose coz, somethimes with Hikifune+Main10th skill+Ultima Aizen i can't kill assoulters and supports, so my Nimaiya mutilate went on assoulter or the last support alive. And their GOD NOZA clear my team with blocks+DMG. But i want to focus on PvE too, coz i start to slide from #1 position to #5. Now i am third, not so far from 2nd and not so far from 4th. So i need information to improve my game in PvE too

Thank you.

Edit= I almost forgot it, in PvE team i wrote 95/100 fury, it's the starting fury, ofc after cute skill, i have full T1 team for pve.

Battle reports:

Vs #1 Arena http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... d=58&t=1&lang=en_US ( crazy coupons spender in ES and VOID )
Vs #3 Arena http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... d=58&t=1&lang=en_US ( 8th in CSB, 5th in Ryoka, usually a slighty better then me in Void ) I alredy put in CSB Aizen. That's why Ultima was better and not enough sometimes.
Vs #3 Arena http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... d=58&t=1&lang=en_US But with Ultima Aizen.
Vs #4 Arena http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... d=58&t=1&lang=en_US coz he left his 3rd place to the actual third ( 6th in CSB, 1st in Ryoka, top 3 in VOID ) This is with Ultima Aizen.
Vs Senjumaru in CSB later
Bye




author: frtommy3    time: 2016-11-3 07:15:35

Edited by frtommy3 at 2016-11-3 14:31

CSB

Vs Senjumaru http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... d=58&t=1&lang=en_US  ( lost at first try )
Vs Senjumaru http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... d=58&t=1&lang=en_US  ( won at second try )

sadly copy battle report not works and i can't paste the couple of fight in ES. To show you the test with sexy yoruichi hikifune and sogyo, like mylar wrote.

So, i recorded a short video in the last ES.
I tryed the Mylar formation
Sogyo no kotowari
Hikifune > Cute Orihime > Berserk Renji > Main 8th skill > Sexy Yoruichi.   ofc first round everybody use his skill, second round, only Cute Orihime-Berserk Renji use their skill.

In the recent past i not recorded any video on ES or Ryoka, so i have not something to compare. I just remember in Ryoka with my PvE formation i did over 460mil coz i killed a ryoka with 465mil HP left. Was a hign wave, i think something like 77-78.
Usually ES dmg is half. Today i did 2 fights. On my ES arrancar i did 194mil; in Shinigami ES i did 154mil. Meaning 300-400 mil in Ryoka. But this evening i will record a short video with Mylar formation in Ryoka high wave so i will be sure of my dmg.

BUT i think with Mylar formation i am losing DMG. ok, my Shura Kenpachi is not so bad and Sexy Yoruichi still a baby. Are you sure, if i will Inherit Exclusive skills on Shura Kenpachi and i will work on Evolution/Exclusive skills on Sexy Youruichi , i will do more DMG ?
I don't have SMART NANAO to make bond on Sexy, so another point to keep Shura.
I am scared to ruin all my pve trying to build Sexy and kill Shura XD
Thank you for your time.
author: Brahmastra    time: 2016-11-3 08:18:49

Do you have 90% break on all your partners?
author: frtommy3    time: 2016-11-3 08:45:43

Brahmastra replied at 2016-11-3 14:18
Do you have 90% break on all your partners?

Here my PvP Team for Arena and CSB[attach]16841[/attach][attach]16842[/attach][attach]16845[/attach][attach]16843[/attach][attach]16844[/attach]

in the speed order too

p.s.= my hikifune can have better speed, but now i made some changes for pve and i still have to restore speed hogus and accessories
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-11-3 08:47:12

frtommy3 replied at 2016-11-3 01:33
First of all i want to thank you guys for the opinions.

@Devvoke2 I can't and i won't top up so muc ...

HMA Aizen is terrible vs a stacked Noza especially, anything that boosts the attack of a block happy vang is no good.  first Hiki would go, hitting all but the vang hard, then CSB Aizen would go, hitting all quite hard and further hampering fury production of your foes, then Otetsu goes, after Hiki and Aizen go, you should kill most/all but vang, giving oetsu's mutulate a better chance of hitting the vang.
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-11-3 08:47:43

frtommy3 replied at 2016-11-3 07:15
CSB

Vs Senjumaru http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... d=58&t=1&lang=en_US  ( lost at first try )

you can rent nanao for a day for 70 gold, fyi
author: Brahmastra    time: 2016-11-3 08:47:55

frtommy3 replied at 2016-11-3 14:45
Here my PvP Team for Arena and CSB

in the speed order too

I don't know what to say man.. you're just super unlucky ROFL
author: frtommy3    time: 2016-11-3 08:56:57

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-11-3 14:47
you can rent nanao for a day for 70 gold, fyi

So in your opinion i should :

1.Fortify my Sogyo and stop fortify my Senbonzakura

2.Change Swp Aizen with CSB Aizen ( btw like u saw in the battlereport, after Hikifune, Main and CSB Aizen skill, if i am not lucky i can't clear enemy support+assoulter line anyway )

3. Starting from today, not going under 11000 vitality but use the rest to evolve Sexy Yoruichi

4. Spend 50 golds to remove Exclusive Skill from Shura Kenpachi and give the points to Sexy.

5. Spend 50 golds  as soon as Rent will be out to get Smart Nanao, for Sexy bond.

It's ok ?
author: frtommy3    time: 2016-11-3 09:19:16

Brahmastra replied at 2016-11-3 14:47
I don't know what to say man.. you're just super unlucky ROFL

Probably XD
About PvE - Void ?
What are you thinking ?
author: Brahmastra    time: 2016-11-3 11:26:11

frtommy3 replied at 2016-11-3 15:19
Probably XD
About PvE - Void ?
What are you thinking ?

Honestly dude I think your formation is fine, PVE and PVP.

The only short term solution would be a new Zanpakuto. Other than that I'd just keep on saving Talisman and getting more stones from SA. If you really do need extra power you can always stack Nimaiya a bit more and have him go first. Then again this means you drop a lot of defense.
author: frtommy3    time: 2016-11-3 12:05:47

Brahmastra replied at 2016-11-3 17:26
Honestly dude I think your formation is fine, PVE and PVP.

The only short term solution would be  ...

A server mate told me to inherit exclusive skill from Ultima Aizen and Cute Orihime, and give it all to Hikifune.
But for the rest stay with actual formation for PvE and PvP
Thank you Brah for your opinion.
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-11-3 14:57:13

frtommy3 replied at 2016-11-3 12:05
A server mate told me to inherit exclusive skill from Ultima Aizen and Cute Orihime, and give it a ...

IMO, yes you should inheret them down, but not for hikifune, I'd put them on your vang, but then again, I"m a sucker for a stacked vang...
author: frtommy3    time: 2016-11-3 15:49:34

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-11-3 20:57
IMO, yes you should inheret them down, but not for hikifune, I'd put them on your vang, but then a ...

Ok, I am writing during Ryoka.
formation Mylarhyrule PvE.

Sogyo
Hikifune>Cute>Brenji>Main 8th skill> Sexy

Wave 75 i couldn't do even 360Mil dmg coz my team die. I had 90% counter, 90% Block, and my assoulters have:

681k hp main
1mil hp Brenji
598k hp Sexy

all of them have 6x lvl.9 and renji ( noza gear ) have lvl10 stamina stones.

This is not doable in a server where usually we reach wave 80.
I have to play with Vanguard in my formation.

For the record, after round 3 Sexy and Main die. After round 4 die Renji, and ofc after round 5 die the 2 remaning supports.

Thank you so much for your idea Mylar. But not working with my actual team/server.
I will keep Nozarashi in formation. 0-3-2 still needs to much works and stamina stuffs for me at the moment.
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2016-11-3 16:36:23

frtommy3 replied at 2016-11-3 15:49
Ok, I am writing during Ryoka.
formation Mylarhyrule PvE.

fair enough, glad you checked it out before you took the plunge.  My server gets to between wave 70 and 72, around 72 i have to put in my vang, but assumed you were stronger than that.  regardless, good luck with your team makeup.
author: iz4n4minok4mi    time: 2016-11-3 17:44:40

I dont really see the problem except wasting exclusive fragments on too many partners. Better focus on 2-3 max as was said. Your pve is decent and pvp you beat most pvp. I dont see why are you complaining.. You are 2nd in my csb which is really good considering you are vip 9 and soda is definitely vip 10, kielon (from my server) is vip 10 as well and I bet urukiora is as well. Regarding YamiG with his noza.. well I bet everyone in csb has problem with him to some extent and you got nimaya with mutilate against him.
Unless you plan to spend big time in the future for some high end zanpakuto like katen or jakka your best bet is to focus on 2-3 partners max and put some effort in ES even though it is fast. In my server we also have 2 minute ES if me and kielon are online but better spent some coupons with proper formation and score 3-4 hits on every ES or at least 2 of them than lose quite a bit of silver.
author: LadyKyojin    time: 2016-11-3 18:59:05

Edited by LadyKyojin at 2016-11-4 00:01
iz4n4minok4mi replied at 2016-11-3 22:44
I dont really see the problem except wasting exclusive fragments on too many partners. Better focus  ...

hey im glad you mention what i mentioned about spreading exc frags on to many partners.

yeh soda is defantly vip 10 hes no1 in my server i use to beat him then he went all super saiyan top ups lol. yeh yami g noza is annoying the hp and defence very high. hopfully csb will have a reshuffle soon.  
author: badbone    time: 2016-11-3 19:03:12

Hm in what server are u ?
You should not use exclusive frags on all partners
in the formation , its not good in pvp .
Your pve is fine just level hiki back to 159
Void is a mess mod hiki and use her to give fury when she dies on all partners , remove cute for oetsu , use zangetsu and reincarnate byukuya .
author: badbone    time: 2016-11-3 19:09:27

Edited by badbone at 2016-11-3 19:13

I can tell u more in the game im not lost
in the well anymore.Im sure i saw u in EU 45 or 48 but i may be wrong

author: frtommy3    time: 2016-11-4 01:32:18

iz4n4minok4mi replied at 2016-11-3 23:44
I dont really see the problem except wasting exclusive fragments on too many partners. Better focus  ...

I am not complaining.
I was asking how to improve my team. Because 1 year ago i stopped to top up a lot money, and now i am almost F2P. I spent once in 2 months just 10$ for reio fury stones.
Stopped top up, i stopped to spend a lot of time in forum too, so my knowledge of the game isn't enough today to improve my team. That's why i asked help/opinion.
I am Urukiora and i am Vip 9 1/2
I am 9th in CSB.....but i need a boost in PvE coz really soon, 2 players in my server will be better ( yamig and ino riki ) and i probably will lose 3rd place in Ryoka. That's why i need some info


@LadyKyojin and badbone
Thank you for your opinion. I will reincarnate Byakuya tavern and i will mod a little more Hikifune.
I will give exclusive on Brenji and Hikifune only, starting today.
author: frtommy3    time: 2016-11-5 01:50:07

badbone replied at 2016-11-4 01:03
Hm in what server are u ?
You should not use exclusive frags on all partners
in the formation , its ...

Last evening on Void your advice worked well.
From 10-12 mil i did 20mil, and my Hikifune still without the dead skill and byakuya (lvl.101 ) reincarnate lvl 1.
Thank you.
author: badbone    time: 2016-11-5 20:11:43

frtommy3 replied at 2016-11-5 01:50
Last evening on Void your advice worked well.
From 10-12 mil i did 20mil, and my Hikifune still wi ...

It can be better with time cuz byakuya can be red in the future .
By the way  dont focus on hikifune she is just a tool
the guy above in the arena has more speed than u
so no point , just get her deathskill and use oetsu .
But u probably wont do that so if u can buy TSI
in bankai power for  2 times top up 4k gold if im not wrong or kukaku you can beat him rly easy
author: frtommy3    time: 2016-11-6 01:27:38

badbone replied at 2016-11-6 02:11
It can be better with time cuz byakuya can be red in the future .
By the way  dont focus on hikifu ...

Elaborate the strategy pls
In your opinion ( and i think you right ) i won't have enough speed on Hikifune to be faster than #1 in Arena. So i should get 6 stars on Hikifune mods and use Oetsu as second ??
This meaning i should stack oetsu and i planned to stack starting from now, Hikifune and BRenji only XD
So i should change again. BUT.....if Oetsu attack for second, probably i will lose 100% of the time vs #3 and #4 in arena, coz they have GOD Nozarashi.
Maybe i understood wrong your tactic.
In Bankai Power event, i should top up 4k golds and do nothing.
Second time Bankai Power will be here, i should top up again 4k golds and i could buy TSI or Kukaku ?
Just to understand what you was talking about.
But i don't think i will do it, because i have no work and no money XD
Anyway pls, elaborate this strategy too, i'd like to know
Thank you for your time.
author: badbone    time: 2016-11-6 05:14:17

frtommy3 replied at 2016-11-6 01:27
Elaborate the strategy pls
In your opinion ( and i think you right ) i won't have enough speed  ...

I mean if you dont want to stack oetsu get tsi
from bankai power event when it appears.
You have to top up 4k gold and then spend all the gold with rebates in bankai power and u will get half the points needed for him. The other 4k top up are for the second day so u can get again the rebates and get the points.
And Kukaku is option too if u dont want tsi + she needs less matirials to be effective.
Stacked nozas are anoying so kukaku is better if u dont get tsi exclusive skill and kukaku gives nice kido deffence
on your supports.
Also ots not good to use noza against nozarashi stackers
cuz you may give him more block chances
also ultima aizen increase his attack with 150% so if u block u are dead only hiki can save u with her skill but that wont work everytime.
author: frtommy3    time: 2016-11-6 05:52:38

badbone replied at 2016-11-6 11:14
I mean if you dont want to stack oetsu get tsi
from bankai power event when it appears.
You have t ...

How use my Nozarashi vs a Stacked Nozarashi is not good coz i give him more block chances ?
About Ultima Aizen....I know increase dmg on Enemy's Nozarashi, but sometimes the Stacked Enemy's Nozarashi have so much HP, and Oestu mutilate isn't enough. Then Ultima Aizen Chaos help to kill Enemy's Nozarashi. In your opinion i should use CSB Aizen instead of Ultima ?
author: badbone    time: 2016-11-6 06:43:31

frtommy3 replied at 2016-11-6 05:52
How use my Nozarashi vs a Stacked Nozarashi is not good coz i give him more block chances ?
About  ...

if you can use zabimaru renji you can lower his block by 25 % and deff by 10%  
but this will work only if he can skill .
If not yea kyoka aizen has better  break defense .
If your noza skill first and oetsu doesnt kill him he has fossilize and you wont make him dmg with skills
and thats why he may have more chances to block and kill your formation .
author: frtommy3    time: 2016-11-6 07:23:27

badbone replied at 2016-11-6 12:43
if you can use zabimaru renji you can lower his block by 25 % and deff by 10%   
but this will w ...

i used in the past Zabimaru renji vs the nozarashi stacked team. Maybe i should try him again. But if i remember i had more benefits when i switched from zabimaru renji to Ultima. I could try again to use my starrk. But if i remember well, using starrk vs a Nozarashi stacked was worst. Maybe Hollow Ichigo could be more useful, but i haven't.
Btw all my 5 partners have 100% fury at first round. I have enough stones. no matter u the partner will be.
I will try to put them on the formation.
I will let you know.
author: grzesiekgabrile    time: 2016-11-6 07:36:02

try to take Shinso Gin and then go with :
zanp Hyorinmaru
supp: Hiki Shinso Oetsu (Oetsu and Shinso mod speed, so you dont need to use Muramase for more speed)
main
van: Noza and try to stack him so with hiki buff and Hyorinmaru fortify he will be monster
and that team will be good for pve and pvp
author: frtommy3    time: 2016-11-6 07:54:36

grzesiekgabrile replied at 2016-11-6 13:36
try to take Shinso Gin and then go with :
zanp Hyorinmaru
supp: Hiki Shinso Oetsu (Oetsu and Shinso  ...

Hi, never thought about this formation, but to be honest i will need golds for shinso too.
So, atm and in the near future, i am not planning to top up.
Thank you for your point of view.
author: grzesiekgabrile    time: 2016-11-6 07:59:56

frtommy3 replied at 2016-11-6 07:54
Hi, never thought about this formation, but to be honest i will need golds for shinso too.
So, atm ...

Gin is for free, or maby i need to say stack coupons and buy him from aliance shop or that i dont remember name legendary event?
author: frtommy3    time: 2016-11-6 08:26:26

grzesiekgabrile replied at 2016-11-6 13:59
Gin is for free, or maby i need to say stack coupons and buy him from aliance shop or that i dont  ...

Gin from Honor Shop need 500 comrade contract. if u want to do the trick with legendary something....i have to buy VG ikkaku. 200 contract. well i have 4 now XD and i need tons of golds to renew shinigami agents for months. Hoping to collect all the contract to get Vg Ikkaku and then Shinso from the other event for free. Meanwhile the game probably will change again. Meanwhile they upgrade their noza. In the end, you are right with Hyorinmaru + Noza, but my Hikifune will lose speed. Coz Shinso buff only his speed.
Could be a good formation/strategy but i think i am late for that.
I think should be better work on what i have now or i will have more easy.
author: grzesiekgabrile    time: 2016-11-6 08:39:31

frtommy3 replied at 2016-11-6 08:26
Gin from Honor Shop need 500 comrade contract. if u want to do the trick with legendary something. ...

you can see on my vid speed is not that important ;)
but maby you are right

author: jgooner    time: 2016-11-6 12:09:48

frtommy3 replied at 2016-11-3 15:45
Here my PvP Team for Arena and CSB

in the speed order too

when u fight god noza try making oetsu more dmg and stamina from hiki ofc leave her the speed
cuz if u make him survive the first block and u have hiki 6th mod u can remove her break defense so she can  100% block and die, oetsu will skill again this time he will finish the job
u can even put him some strenght to be sure he will survive the 1st block
thats a way without using bankai renji kenpachi unohana wabisuke
after all god oetsu is made to kill it
author: frtommy3    time: 2016-11-7 03:35:54

jgooner replied at 2016-11-6 18:09
when u fight god noza try making oetsu more dmg and stamina from hiki ofc leave her the speed
cuz ...

Thx for the info.
I will need some weeks more to have Hikifune 6th mod. Dunno i didn't thought earlier at hiki 6th mod.

But pls guys, stop with pvp advice XD

I already have 75% win rate vs GOD NOZA. In guild wars working better the actual formation. Coz with your advice i win one fight 100% maybe, but the second time i am dead 100% ( at least in Guild War ).

So, focus your brain on PvE XD
If i can do something better
author: jgooner    time: 2016-11-7 03:58:42

frtommy3 replied at 2016-11-7 10:35
Thx for the info.
I will need some weeks more to have Hikifune 6th mod. Dunno i didn't thought ear ...

Thats why I said its only for noza stacker and its the smallest change
I can help with pve too just in your case even for vip9 is hard to run 4 wiisdom chars
I will try tell u the best free way right cuz I saw u wont top up  
author: jgooner    time: 2016-11-7 04:12:40

frtommy3 replied at 2016-11-7 10:35
Thx for the info.
I will need some weeks more to have Hikifune 6th mod. Dunno i didn't thought ear ...

For ryoka u dont need more than 100 mil dmg on es cuz u killl them till 70 wave after this wave u know its getting hard so u probably want improve void but they alredy told u the free way
Making hiki only booster to use byakuya tavern he realy do alot even without red yet and geting brenji from ubp



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