Assassins Reincarnation Update Thoughts.

AssassinwithRPG

Okay so my thoughts and cents onthis.  Reincarnation system is one of those things that peeps were waiting for, and so was I. But after seeing how they did it at first (CNPreview), I already had my doubts. But is it bad or good? Well let’s see. Note,it’s long so doubt many will take time to read, but I’m bored.

Okay reincarnation is pretty cool for PVE and PVP. First rein gives 16% damage which is a fair bit. After for each reincarnation you’ll get 6% more. So for one partner to reach 30%(to be exact you’ll get 34%) you would need 4 reincarnations. That will take a fair bit of time, and that is on one partner. But for now let’s talk about reincarnating each partner once. One partnershould take 10 days to reincarnate, so month and you’ve got full formation (roughestimate, Assassin has not done hard mode or nightmare like all the big boys). Pretty fucking good.

Then the big problem comes along, you need to be atleast level 110 to use reincarnation. This means anyone that is under isstarting new server will have a big ass disadvantage in early game damage, andearly game matters a lot. So now all peeps which aren't at end game are fucked hard becausethey can't use the feature at all so they just have to swallow the increasedimmune rate of ES and Ryoka and lower silver gain. But whatever, after they getto level 110, yey for them they'll probably get a huge ass upgrade in damage, right?Well kind of. Because you do lose exp after reincarnation, and that can fuckyou up too. Ofc it says you gain some exp daily or something afterreincarnation so that should balance it out.

The special stuff you get. Quite cool because it's all chance based and can boost your damage quite well in PVE andmost of those special things can be amazing in PVP. Big fucking note, youcan only have one of those active, so choose wisely I guess.

So let’s start with, clear enemy shield. Eh?Wut? There's only katen that gives shield and new sexy kukaku.... Well mayb ethat one isn’t that useful, unless I misunderstood it. Fuck that one.

Next, we've got a big one. Chance to deal 300% damage. That shit is amazing. Right? Come on that would compensate nicely for the damage loss. PVE orientated, always nice to have Kenpatchi level damage randomly.

One after that, ignore enemies damage. Cos who needs hiki right? PVP orientated in my opinion. Doubt it works in events.

After we got something quite interesting. Chance for normal attack to attack all enemies. Now I'd say PVP orientated, but from what I see most battles end with whoever is faster and T1 and shit. So normal attacks rarely play a role. Hollow maps on the other hand, not bad at all.

Moving on to onto ignore enemies defence. PVP and PVE, no need to explain how much potential this has.

Oh look at this one, op to shit. Chance to restore all hp. Imagine noza with that shit. Hehehe. PVP and PVE

Hiki counter. Chance to clear all enemy’s buffs. PVP, PVE shit don’t tend to use buffs.

Now the most overpowered shit here. Chance for instant kill. Make it work in ES and Ryoka and I’ll cry. Not from happiness. We don’t want Russian server repeated here. PVP amazing potential. Hollow maps too. One hit Aizen and you’re done.YEY.

Next, ignore enemies burst effect? Fuck’s that? Guessing DOT but not sure. PVP mostly, probably.

Lastly, probably a nice addition for trolling. Chance to mix enemy formation up. Guessing we can fuck a lot of shit with that. How cute? Well certainly would be interesting. PVP oriented. Maybe uses in Hollow maps. In events, well not really happening is it?

But what do we lose. Now 30% immune rate on ryoka and ES resulted in me and most people losing a ton of silver.  Now you must be next level crazy fuck to say that’s good. But the main question is does the reincarnation feature provide enough bonuses to actually compensate for the difficulty increase?

Well let’s do some calculations. So let’s say you need 4 months to get a partner to 4th reincarnation. Let’s say you are one of those motherfucking stackers and did only one partner after reincarnating main once.

You’ll have 34% more damage. Hell fucking yes. Good, now after 4 months you’ve compensated for the update. Wait that shit isn’t exactly good. This means you’ve only gained a shiny effect and your damage is back as it was four months ago before the update. Well that was fun.

Now the special stuff you’ll have either one of those below. Assuming you’ve got one partner to 4th.

40% chance to clear enemies shield.

12% chance to do 300% damage.

6% to ignore enemies damage.

8% chance for normal attack to hit all enemies.

8% chance to ignore enemies defence.

4% chance to restore all HP.

24% chance to clear enemies buffs.

4% chance to instant kill

8% chance to mix formation up.

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Well those don’t look too appealing either, except for 12% to do 300% damage. And that’s just for one partner. So over all. Is the update a fuck up or good? Big fuck up in short term. And not that appealing in long term based on my estimations which may be wrong, so keep that in mind too. So GoGames fucked us again by update like exclusive skills which seems op as shit until you realise how long it takes to get it. Not to mention with this one we get big ass disadvantage. Now if there is a max reincarnation then it’s also pretty bad, if it’s only limited to five then even worse. If it’s ten, then it’s not even half bad if you can get there...

Now some of the PVP advantages from damage increase thingy. So if you vs someone that isn’t reincarnate you’ll auto do 30% less damage. How fucking good.  So after reincarnation you will be weaker in PVP, or kind of. And if that also applies to Events, then GG please take this update out.  Now depending on what bonus attribute you gain, you will either have more damage against rein person or less. Not that good either but will make it interesting after a long time.

So to sum up everything, is it even worth fucking reincarnating? Well yes, but it has a fuck load of disadvantages and the chance effects will only be worth after 4th or onwards reincarnation.So in my opinion, the reincarnation system is interesting but does not compensate for silver lose, and in my opinion, needs reworking. Anyone agreeing or disagreeing I’d be happy to hear your opinions after you took sweet time to read this shit. Thank you and have a great day.

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Brahmastra

Wanted to add this as well. (WIP!)  Not sure if accurate brain is fried.

Will edit later

AssassinwithRPG

Brahmastra replied at 2016-4-6 21:57
Wanted to add this as well. (WIP!)  Not sure if accurate brain is fried.

Will edit later

Looks good to me, thanks brah.  But mah brain is fucked too.

Lucky__Black

Brahmastra replied at 2016-4-6 16:57
Wanted to add this as well. (WIP!)  Not sure if accurate brain is fried.

Will edit later

I thought Spirit Power does 30% less damage when attacking Ruin Power. Shadow Power does 30% less damage when attacking Spirit Power and Ruin Power does 30% less damage when attacking Shadow power? Wouldn't there then be red arrows in your diagram (which is awesome btw, thanks).

Brahmastra

Lucky__Black replied at 2016-4-6 23:05
I thought Spirit Power does 30% less damage when attacking Ruin Power. Shadow Power does 30% less  ...

I took the 0% way instead of the -30% way
Will edit tomorrow

Shaffney

So here some questions

1) When you are lvl 121 with 120 gear and you reincarnate to lvl 117. Can you keep wearing the lvl 120 equipment or do you need a worse set?
2) Let's say all chars are lvl 121, I reincarnate my main and it becomes lvl 117. Will all chars stop lvling until main reaches lvl 122?
3) Let's say I have my main on 121 and a brenji on 118. Will my brenji stop lvling after I reincarnate my main to lvl 117? Or can lvl up to the original lvl I was at before reincarnation?

AssassinwithRPG

Shaffney replied at 2016-4-6 23:00
So here some questions

1) When you are lvl 121 with 120 gear and you reincarnate to lvl 117. Can yo ...

Nope, as long as you won't take it off. It's a bit of a glitch which works with accessories. Unless reincarnation requires you take gear off. Then yeah, you'd need to replace it. But we still aren't sure about the daily exp scrolls or what ever  and how much they will benefit. Maybe they'll slow down progression for a bit and boost it in mid-long term.

Not sure, but the game mechanic does pretty much say characters won't level up higher main. So my guess is until your character is higher level than others they won't level up. I see no reason why they would stop leveling until reaching level you reincarnated at, but they will most likely stop until you level up past their level.

My assumptions again. Nothing confirmed until we get people testing.

Dotiie

They changed the Daily Benefit system too from my understanding, you can retrieve the "missing" daily event exp even when you did the events, just claimed it all now even though I still have my mails saying I did ES/Ryoka etc.

AssassinwithRPG

Dotiie replied at 2016-4-6 23:10
They changed the Daily Benefit system too from my understanding, you can retrieve the "missing" dail ...

Interesting. Wonder why they did that? But fuck, that doesn't compensate for my loses in silver.

Dotiie

AssassinwithRPG replied at 2016-4-6 23:11
Interesting. Wonder why they did that? But fuck, that doesn't compensate for my loses in silver.

Alongside the extremely high exp amount you get from the new scrolls, it's just to boost yourself up a little more for losing level, a bit of compensation