HIV vs. Muken

theunknown404

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y54iqn6NnVo

Even Aizen isn't completely immune to sexually transmitted diseases.

Putting the invincibility issues aside, I figured this would be a good discussion to have on the forums since I think the last two supporters the developers released have made Hell Verse Ichigo a lot more appealing. My video is not the best demonstration, but I can tell you using Muken in some of these fights would take more than one round to finish other Mukens. HVI instead rips through everyone like tissue paper when he can hit, sometimes before RJ can activate (sometimes after). I should probably post an additional video link using Muken in the place of HVI to show any difference tbh. This could of course end up differently if there were more defense halos on the enemy side, but I could also add more halos and tank more hits.

Using Blood War Byakuya and Kyoka, you could probably potentially outspeed an entire RJ team with HVI while it would be a little bit harder to do with Muken. Also, in the context of Blood War Byakuya's abilities, HVI's blocks are 300% damage, he lowers enemy block, and you can replace some of his mods for more break defense, block, damage rate, or crit rate if you're not going to use his exclusive skill in PvP. He also does a lot more damage in Void Region than most people probably realize.

His lack of ignoring the empty cicada (invincibility) is probably a necessary balancing point when he has a 50% chance of clearing any control effect whenever he is attacked. He also can be mutilated, but if the fights end this quickly, then it may not be a problem most of the time. The fights will have to end quickly with the assaulters' 7th mods.

In the worst case of the invincibility problem, where you have have a Shinigami Kensei death skill or Bankai Shunsui giving invincibility, you can either 1) Let HVI attack first, 2) replace with Muken, or 3) have both Muken and HVI in formation. Muken still slows down the enemy team with his speed reduction halo AND it counters Bankai Shunsui's skill and death skill to have two assaulters in formation. In the case of Shinigami Kensei being sacrificed off the bat, that just means the enemy team has one less slot for a partner that could have helped with survivability, speed, or damage, making them weaker.

But one of the major reason for sticking with Muken is of course that he's practically free under the right conditions and he additionally does not require a specific supporter to be good. Any supporter that buffs him will do.

I would at least like to take this moment to entertain the possibility that we won't have to be stuck in the world of Muken being the only good assaulter forever. The game is overrun by Muken, and I find that lack of variety extremely boring.

Thoughts, opinions, concerns, rants, experiences, Ganju ss?

MylarHyrule

IchigoTensito replied at 2018-3-3 13:23
What is HIV?

usually shortened as HVI...  Hell Verse Ichigo...  I call him HIV because it's funny as hell to me, lol

IchigoTensito

MylarHyrule replied at 2018-2-18 09:55
HIV can be countered easily with Hikifune, someone given out in UBP, so everyone here has a chance t ...

What is HIV?

adnane.bek

theunknown404 replied at 2018-2-20 16:56
They are very bad at English. It should say clears and immune control debuffs.

There was a Shinji ...

ok then, well too bad cuz she was intersting (more) with that description

theunknown404

adnane.bek replied at 2018-2-20 16:39
i thought the thing between sorry for my french (parenthèse) was the thing i was talking about but ...

They are very bad at English. It should say clears and immune control debuffs.

There was a Shinji Hirako partner that said clear debuffs as well, "Attack all enemies, growth rate is 130%, remove own assaulter's debuff and gives immunity to stun for 2 rounds, increase own break defense by 25% for 3 rounds."

However, he doesn't clear debuffs. He probably only clears away and makes your assaulters immune to stun.

adnane.bek

theunknown404 replied at 2018-2-20 14:08
She doesn't have that. Only shield. That clears control effects only.

Currently nothing works exa ...

i thought the thing between sorry for my french (parenthèse) was the thing i was talking about but i just realized the () wich is weird and i quote the wikia :

"Attack all enemies, growth rate is 100%, increase assaulter speed and attack by 25% for 2 rounds, decrease all enemies fury by 10, cast shield on all allies growth rate is 5% (clear all debuff and immune from control), heal ally with least HP, growth rate 100%"

theunknown404

sacsuka replied at 2018-2-20 14:12
http://mybankai.game.ggcorp.me/fightreport/?rid=580683011617140204&aid=58&t=1&lang=en_Eu
And HVI is  ...

That is not a bug. When he was attacked, he became faster than his Zanpakuto with the speed buff mod for that round.

sacsuka

http://mybankai.game.ggcorp.me/f ... ;t=1&lang=en_Eu
And HVI is full bug in ToT and CSB.

theunknown404

adnane.bek replied at 2018-2-20 06:58
i hope so her clrearing debuff i recall is somewhat like kyoka

She doesn't have that. Only shield. That clears control effects only.

Currently nothing works exactly the same as Kyoka. Byakuya has the buff clear on his exclusive skill, but it won't clear invincibility like Kyoka who ignores invincibility.