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author: degataga time: 2014-8-5 16:23:11 Title: zanpakuto above bankai

i have enough zanpakuto souls to upggrade above bankai. my reiatsu lvl is 24. what reiatsu lvl i need for next zanpakuto upgrade ?

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-5 16:36:01

I'm guessing 40. Mine is 36 and I can't do it yet. Could be 50 though.

author: nieverland time: 2014-8-5 17:18:12

yep you need reiatsu lv40 for the next upgrade

author: boringstuff time: 2014-8-5 17:30:53

nieverland replied at 2014-8-5 23:18
yep you need reiatsu lv40 for the next upgrade

thisthisthis , its too expensive u.u

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-5 17:38:08

boringstuff replied at 2014-8-5 16:30
thisthisthis , its too expensive u.u

Yes, it's VERY expensive

author: nieverland time: 2014-8-5 18:35:46

Yep

Bankai is enought atm

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author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-8 01:48:51

lol funny pic nieverland

author: adolff time: 2014-8-8 16:11:50

It's Reiatsu level 40

author: dragonstorm008 time: 2014-8-8 17:00:08

40... that's insane.
Bet its gonna be fun, to grind to last X-kai

author: nieverland time: 2014-8-8 19:04:30

Anyway, anyone know the name of the next tranfomation after Bankai?? sorry but i miss a lot of chap. of the manga so i dunno whats the name or something about that

author: dragonstorm008 time: 2014-8-8 20:04:12

nieverland replied at 2014-8-9 01:04
Anyway, anyone know the name of the next tranfomation after Bankai?? sorry but i miss a lot of chap. ...

It already says on the upgrade panel: "Hogyoku-Kai".
I don't think its actually anything after Bankai, the other upgrades in this game,
is just made up, for game progression.

Well now I haven't read the manga in many months.. so maybe, idk...

author: MisterMusashi time: 2014-8-8 20:13:59

dragonstorm008 replied at 2014-8-8 19:04
It already says on the upgrade panel: "Hogyoku-Kai".
I don't think its actually anything after Ban ...

Well Byakuya had Senkei and Shuukei forms for his Bankai which were kinda like further steps beyond bankai, right?

author: dragonstorm008 time: 2014-8-8 22:23:25

Edited by dragonstorm008 at 2014-8-9 04:27

MisterMusashi replied at 2014-8-9 02:13
Well Byakuya had Senkei and Shuukei forms for his Bankai which were kinda like further steps beyon ...

Nah, well its different forms, but its still only his Bankai.
Byakuya can change his Bankai forms, when he wants/needs.

Senkei Form:

Shuukei Hakuteiken Form:

author: degataga time: 2014-8-8 23:08:49

name is hogyoku-kai

author: snow4life88 time: 2014-8-9 05:46:24

Can someone put up a break down of all stages of the zanpakuto and the requirements? Normal, Shikai, and bankai???

author: sanoskue time: 2014-8-10 08:35:15

That would very helpful

author: degataga time: 2014-8-10 10:34:09

snow4life88 replied at 2014-8-9 04:46
Can someone put up a break down of all stages of the zanpakuto and the requirements? Normal, Shikai ...

azrial made already a guide about that: http://forums.gogames.me/thread-1230-1-1.html

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-11 13:39:55

nieverland replied at 2014-8-8 18:04
Anyway, anyone know the name of the next tranfomation after Bankai?? sorry but i miss a lot of chap. ...

The name isn't from the manga or at least not as a zanpaktou. It's hoguyoku-kai so it's based on Aizen turning into the king of demon butterflies.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-3 17:51:50

Bangkay haha!

author: jasen22 time: 2014-10-25 04:58:36

FUCK U ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

author: [email protected] time: 2014-10-25 05:19:51

jasen22 replied at 2014-10-25 03:58
FUCK U ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No you.

author: aj1615 time: 2015-1-12 17:15:44

hello lady

author: aj1615 time: 2015-1-12 17:17:20

author: Shahadem time: 2015-1-12 23:03:26

nieverland replied at 2014-8-5 16:18
yep you need reiatsu lv40 for the next upgrade

I don't know if my wrists will last through the clicks needed to get to level 40.

author: Shahadem time: 2015-1-12 23:08:26

dragonstorm008 replied at 2014-8-8 19:04
It already says on the upgrade panel: "Hogyoku-Kai".
I don't think its actually anything after Ban ...

A lot stuff in this game is completely made up.

Like equipment being a source of stats even though the manga is clear that internal Reiatsu generation is the only source of power for anyone who isn't a Quincy, or Yammy and that this Reiatsu generation has a maximum limit for each person which differs between each person and is determined by nature.

There is only 2 forms, Shikai and Bankai. Each Shikai can have multiple abilities, just as each Bankai can have multiple abilities. But that's only for pure Shinigami. They need to gain hollow like qualities in order to go further, however going further isn't going beyond Bankai so much as sidestepping the entire process and evolving from a completely different state to another state.

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-1-12 23:16:10

Shahadem replied at 2015-1-12 22:08
A lot stuff in this game is completely made up.

Like equipment being a source of stats even thoug ...

Except, Hogyoku-Kai is a real thing to. It is the point at which a wielder merges with his/her Zanpakuto.

Ichigo and Aizen both accomplished this. It was never given a name, but given the Hogyoku's involvment, it isn't all that far fetched.

author: Shahadem time: 2015-1-14 02:14:52

Aristeaus replied at 2015-1-12 22:16
Except, Hogyoku-Kai is a real thing to. It is the point at which a wielder merges with his/her Zan ...

But Ichigo didn't actually merge with his Zanpaktou. It was just in his hand and a chain wrapped around his arm. There was no implication that it was physically merged with his soul. Especially since the Zanpaktou was already part of his soul. So the concept of merging with his Zanpaktou is entirely ludicrous as the Zankpaktous is simply a representation of his soul. That's also why his sword was so large even when he first became a Shinigami. You can't merge with something that is merely a representation as it is only an image. The chain wrapping around his arm was therefore just showing that he merged the hollow and shinigami sides of his soul.

What both Ichigo and Aizen did was break through the Shinigami/Hollow barrier. Ichigo by combining the Hollow and Shinigami parts of his soul that were trying to maintain quasi-seperate existances due to their entirely different motivations like the moral/immoral demons that sit on everyone's shoulders (I know that the arcs after this will try to rewrite this but they are wrong and its a huge retcon that is very very wrong and causes the entire story to collapse in on itself in a black hole of ludicrousness). Aizen uses the Hoguyokou to gain the hollowness he lacks and then merges the two together. That's why it takes him so long to reach his final transformation, because his soul needs to be made into a hollow and shinigami soul and then the two need to be merged together. The merging with the Zanpaktou thing has more to do with the fact that the Zanpaktou is part of their soul and that the Zanpaktou serves two completely different functions for both Shinigami and hollows. This is actually where we can tell that the writer completely altered the direction of the story.

The original reason why Ichigo's Bankai is just another sword that looks like every other SHinigami's normal unreleased Zanpaktou is likely because his Bankai was supposed to actually be similar to an arrancar's sword. An Arrancar's sword seals away the Arrancar's true form. So Ichigo's Bankai was supposed to allow Ichigo to have a resurrection form when he mastered his hollow side. That's part of why his hollow form was able to try asserting control over Ichigo when Ichigo was using his Bankai, because when he is in his Bankai form he is essentially an Arrancar and more intune with his hollow side than Shinigami side. The evidence is fairly clear. The first time that hollow (ie white Ichigo) is able to gain control over Ichigo is after Ichigo's second release which releases his sword that is actually an Arrancar's sword. And that is also why the black Getsuuga is extremely similar in composition to a Cero. Because the Getsuuga is being shot from a hollow tuned sword.

But Tite decides to "jump the shark" by retconning hollow ichigo and saying that was a Quincy. And thanks to the evidence I just presented you can see why that is a huge retcon that causes the entire plot to collapse. The clear and convincing evidence proves that white Ichigo was hollow Ichigo. And hollow Ichigo was actually inside Ichigo from the beginning of the series. You can hear and see the telltale signs of hollow Ichigo's Reiatsu breaking through when Renji first cuts up Ichigo during episode 17ish (the first time Ichigo fights Renji and then gets stabbed by Byakuya).

Anways, the reason why Ichigo and Aizen look the way they do is because they are a combined hollow/shinigami soul and thus the competing purpose that their Zanpaktou serves causes it to appear to be "merged" with the characters. However even the story makes it perfectly clear that their power is coming from the fact that they merged their shinigami and hollow soul sections together.

author: tashimar time: 2015-7-24 11:42:20

really my reatsu is just lvl 16 omg

author: pablosays time: 2015-11-14 02:23:41

nieverland replied at 2014-8-5 18:35
Yep Bankai is enought atm

nice pic

author: ichigo_wife time: 2016-6-28 05:19:27

nieverland replied at 2014-8-8 19:04
Anyway, anyone know the name of the next tranfomation after Bankai?? sorry but i miss a lot of chap. ...

It is Hogyoku-kai

author: Baka58 time: 2016-6-29 01:48:29

The phase after bankai is hogyoku-kai.

author: Baka58 time: 2016-6-29 02:02:16

nieverland replied at 2014-8-8 19:04
Anyway, anyone know the name of the next tranfomation after Bankai?? sorry but i miss a lot of chap. ...

The next phase is hogyoku-kai , it is not in the manga , it is only shown in the game.It might just be so that players can progress in the game faster.Even though you need lvl 40 reiatsu.

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