Whats the main reason people switch to 3-2-0 or 2-3-0?

Theelitefart

Just wanted to Know I have seen some pretty stacked Vanguards on youtube and some people who just dont bother with one at all. Would like to know peoples opinions on it. Are vanguards still viable right now or are they just bullet sponges to be taken out when the rest of your team goes down In PVP?

MylarHyrule

Kenpachi456456 replied at 2018-6-21 10:12
Maybe i'm the last with 13million bp, who use 2-2-1

SDT, BBW, Muken, Main, Bankai Kenpachi

drop b kenny for HVI to win at life

alchimiste

Kenpachi456456 replied at 2018-6-21 10:12
Maybe i'm the last with 13million bp, who use 2-2-1

SDT, BBW, Muken, Main, Bankai Kenpachi

nop me too dont worry ;)

jackthehorn

SolKnight replied at 2018-6-21 03:26
Stacked Vanguards are still viable and early to mid game will dominate vs low VIPS without 40K + Par ...

What are you saying early on, i still use that format in ryoka and ES XD
Forever f2p.
But yes what sol said is true early on even with zabimaru as zanpakto we couldnt deal much dmg but now even wambiske will suffice to do dmg in ES and ryoka.

Kenpachi456456

Maybe i'm the last with 13million bp, who use 2-2-1

SDT, BBW, Muken, Main, Bankai Kenpachi

Asian123

Vanguards are useless now. It's better to get 0-3-2 if you have the resources, and have around 10-11m bp raw.
Otherwise you likely won't survive with your 0-3-2

MylarHyrule

I see nobody here has mentioned Void...

with a burn/poison zanpacto, in today's void (no block rate) having a vanguard can easily give you that much more burn/poison damage, even if you are too weak to deal that kind of damage with attacks

but yeah, I recently dropped my vanguard (again, lol) in favor of a 0-2-3 formation and really didn't notice that my 1.4M BP TSI was gone 9% of the time...

I didn't really want to bring Tenjiro back, but I did recognize I need to start building that third set like a supporters set...  plus now I can use Tenjiro more how he was intended (as kido cleanup) plus his mods aren't terrible (-20% enemy kido attack, ignore invinc)...

alchimiste

3.2.0 or 2.3.0 are useless compare to a 1.?.? with a valk for me coz valk got a good death mod who can help u a lot to defeat an hvi or muken . but its just my opinion . im an old player and vip ++ and im using a 2.2.1

Potdenutella

I was a vanguard stacker, then I took a Shy Nemu in the knee...

Erm, I was a vanguard stacker for about 3 years but at one moment I got bored of it and decided to try something new and live with it. At the end, playing without a vanguard feels hyperactive to me than with the vanguard, he (Starrk) was carrying my ass but at the same time he was a deadweight to me (no wonder he was in my formation for 3 years, rest well old dude).
The thing with Shy Nemu is that her last mod gives +30% DMG to assaulters (plus 20% from skill), that's one of the reason I went 2-3-0 to benefit the most of her 7th mod, the other reason is I find my assaulter speedy enough for that advanced formation and bulky to tank few hits, initially I lacked the firepower so going 2-3-0 helped to raise that.

It doesn't really reply to your question in the title, but I at least gave you the idea. As for the viabilty yes they are at the early game but later when you start to see the mukens in your CSB or HVIs, they become useless, they would be there just to admire those two assaulters in front of it with no hope of winning, you either need to go for a formation without vanguard or buy a recent vanguard to deal with them.

SolKnight

Theelitefart replied at 2018-6-20 21:35
Damn rip vanguards. Muken changed the game......

Yeah P much.
One more thing to note is that Vanguards are god awfull for PVE when it comes to damage hence Ryoka and evil spirit the only exception is Nozarashi,Banken and EX skill TSI