Toshiro , Stark or Hollow Ichigo ? Pros n Cons

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Can someone help me here ? :/ Is toshiro worth at all ? And if yes in what strategies ? Also compare him to the other 2 vanguards if you have any feedback

PAOFUI

Brahmastra replied at 2015-3-15 03:23
I'd love to give my opinion but I would probably get laughed at and made fun of again so good luck t ...

thts the forum...

u can gif watever u feel like it... ppl can laff or cry... thts their choice...

i dun even care wat ppl thinks or say... i ll onli take the good ... n leave the bad out...

n luv trollin around...

entertainment at its best...

wakakakaakakakakaka

Brahmastra

I'd love to give my opinion but I would probably get laughed at and made fun of again so good luck to you!

PAOFUI

Unholyknight replied at 2015-3-15 01:05
thank you for the kind words, I try my best to give as much info to the best of my ability but I w ...

well at least u take the time to break it down in details...

i hardly do tht... maybe in PM i will take my time to slowly elaborate n advice ppl...

in forums i ll normally chat or troll for fun...

xixixixi...

i too am not pro... i am learnin day by day... n i do a lot of mistakes myself...

Unholyknight

PAOFUI replied at 2015-3-14 23:05
nice break down...

we will see Nora Ken soon... n i know the fella will goin to rape me wit hi ...

thank you for the kind words, I try my best to give as much info to the best of my ability but I will admit I'm not the best player by any means as I have my flaws as well since a mojority of the Vanguard I either don't have (Hollowed Ichigo though I'm 3 lvls away from getting) or have no plans to get anytime soon (Toshiro and Shin Shura).

PAOFUI

Unholyknight replied at 2015-3-14 23:13
Well seeing as now you all want my thoughts on SWP Kenpachi and Van Rangiku I suppose I can give my  ...

nice break down...

we will see Nora Ken soon... n i know the fella will goin to rape me wit his Nora Ken pretty soon...

gulps... prepares the KY first...

Unholyknight

Well seeing as now you all want my thoughts on SWP Kenpachi and Van Rangiku I suppose I can give my personal thoughts because why not I got time to kill
SWP Kenpachi (I'll include both) - Shin Shura Kenpachi is the definition of a Offensive Vanguard for a very high amount damage but as with Toshiro and Starrk, he requires lvl 9+ stones and need to get his skill off asap as I'm sure Fozzilies can disrupt your opponet strategy but the fact he only increase his own attack by 25% and crit rate by 35% may not be the best selling point for many players and also most may not like that you have to be VIP 1 just to recruit him and his cpns won't show in the shop until lvl 100. now as i said I'm including Nozarashi Kenpachi which I feel is the better of the 2 so this is the one I would recommand if your aiming for Kenpachi. what make Nozarashi amazing is the fact his skill does multiple things at one time such as Fossilizing your opponent van, Silence 2 random opponent (which can disrupt your opponent plays depending on who get silence) giving himself a attack buff of 35% and Crit of 55%, and he randomly give one of your partner full rage can really throw off who ever your fighting. the main problem that players will find with Nozarashi is in order to recruit him you need to be VIP 5 and again just like with Toshiro and Starrk need high lvl stones (lvl 9+) and need to get his Skill off ASAP and need a Zanpakuto that doesn't lower his damage rate (Hyorimaru or Senbonzakura recommended)

Pros: very Vanguard for his lvl and great upon upgrade
Cons: Same as Toshiro and Starrk and the VIP cost to recruit

Rangiku (Vanguard) - because she isn't out the current moment it hard to say how good she going to be when she arrives or if she will be nerfed. so going by her skill in the CN version of the game and going by the guide on here this is what I can give. She probally going to be the best Defensive Vanguard which the fact that she puts Aid rate on your Support line (which is great since Support normally have low HP) and due to the Hot dot being recovery over time it generally a good idea to have her Skill as soon as you can and if not she more then like makes up for it after words. I suppose the only Con I can give at this point is maybe we don't know if she'll be nerfed when she gets here in the US/EU server

Pros: can be builded either way with Aid on Support and Recovery over time on support is a plus
Cons: not knowing if she going to still be good when she gets realesed

hope this is good enough for you all and again i know most may not agree with me as these are my own thoughts on these partners

KrisKingOfLegend

Unholyknight replied at 2015-3-14 20:48
Since not a lot of ppl like to give helpful answers (not that I mind the comedy here in forums) here ...

what about binkini rangiku who will be around 350$'s ~ 450

PAOFUI

Unholyknight replied at 2015-3-14 21:48
Since not a lot of ppl like to give helpful answers (not that I mind the comedy here in forums) here ...

nice detail answer ...

xixixixi...

i hav both toshiro n stark... onli thing i din get along the way was hollow ichi...

guess too late for tht...

but i do hav SWP Ken... which i think not too bad dependin on his usage once again...

toshiro... i like his - 25% of opponent VG n Assaulter attk n also break def.... very useful to reduce opponent dmg on ur team...

stark ... luv him for GW coz he can heal... n use him for hollow soul map too...

SWP Ken... he is good for Ryoka... high dmg... n can tank a lil... altho he cant be mod at the moment... n god knows till when...

Unholyknight

Since not a lot of ppl like to give helpful answers (not that I mind the comedy here in forums) here the best answer I can give to you

Event Toshiro- Honestly I wouldn't bother with Toshiro at this point in time but that just me, but if you really want to use him then you'll want to build him as offesivly as you possibly (need lvl 9 stones at most) can so he gets his skill off. since he lowers the opponent Vanguard attack and break defence by 25% (isn't much if your opponent is stronger that your Toshiro) this can help you out but again this is hard if you don't have high lvl stones to use. Toshiro will run into a lot of issues pass lvl 100 as most opponents you'll face will have a high break defence stat (PVE) or if your opponent can play around Toshiro entirely. Toshiro also need a Zanpakuto that doesn't drop his damage rate

Pros: can disrupt your opponent Assult line making it easier for Toshiro to Block.
Cons: High lvl stone cost for non gold spenders and isn't great at higher lvls and need a good Zan

Coyote Starrk - this is base on personal experience since my Current vanguard is Starrk, Starrk is great for the fact that he can hit everyone as well as recovering 50% HP (base on his attack damage not his max HP) but that where all the pros ends. Starrk sadly is another one of those that requires High level stones (level 9 at most) and need to get his skill off ASAP otherwise he going to be nuked long before he can go off. you also need a Zanpakuto to compliment him being a Vanguard that won't lower his Damage (Hyorimaru and Senbonzakura are your best coice)

Pros: able to recover HP off of both normal and skill hits and a all hitter.
Cons: Same as Toshiro

Hollowed Ichigo - Personally I think Hollowed Ichigo is the best Vanguard for f2p to Low VIP because he can be built both Offensively or Defensively. plus Ichigo puts a high Aid Rate on your Assult line which can a saving grace against your opponent on top of being able to recover HP for 45% (again base on his attack power not max HP). Ichigo major downfall when compared to Starrk is the fact that he only single target and some of his modifications could be a bit better (never got the point of Strategy attack on Van). otherwise this is the one I would recommand the most of the 3

Pros: Same as Starrk with the added Aid Rate on Assult line
Cons: Single target and Mods

these are just my personal thoughts and I know not everyone will agree but it really all up to you in the wnd on how you want to build your formation