PVE Buff Stacking: Partners and Zanpakutos

Brahmastra

Update 4-7-2015:
Sogyo + 8th skill deals the highest damage again, don't bother reading everything explained below.

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Since there is a lot of confusion about buff stacking and the random damage increase since the Evolution update I figured I'd make a thread and post screenshots.
This thread is mainly about the damage difference between Sogyo, Zabimaru and Zangetsu combined with Dark Rukia, Inoue and Sexy Yoruichi.

Warning. These results are based on a fairly balanced team. If you have level 12 wisdom stones and level 5 strength stones chances are high you will get different results, exaggerated I know.

The skill you want to use depends on you, I have always used the 8th skill (100% combo)
Tested on "Quicksand Controller" in the "New Karakura Town" map. I hope the screenshots are understandable.
Personal backup:
- Urahara had no belt on.
- Tested with VG gear on main.
Normal Zanpakuto Damage: Urahara + Main.

Zabimaru highest support damage.
Zangetsu highest assaulter damage.
Zangetsu best overall damage.

Stacked Support Zanpakuto Damage: Urahara + Sexy Yoruichi.

Zabimaru gives highest damage for support.

Stacked Assaulter Zanpakuto Damage: Dark Rukia + Main.

Zangetsu gives highest damage for assaulters.

Combined: Urahara + Sexy Yoruichi & Dark Rukia + Main.
I calculated this one by adding Urahara's + Sexy Yoruichi's damage with Dark Rukia and my Mains damage.
Zangetsu is the best one with Zabimaru following very close. Sogyo on the other hand is not worth buying anymore and I guess the Sogyo + Dark Rukia days are over. I'm not sure if this change was intended or how much longer it will stay if it wasn't.



Difference with and without buff stacking.
Shows the difference with or without Dark Rukia, Inoue and Sexy Yoruichi.





The skills: 100% combo rate  vs 15% assaulters attack.
I have to say that the skills are rather weird especially skill #9. The damage on skill #9 seems super broken and the damage randomly goes through the roof, shown on screenshot below.
Right now I'd say skill 9 is better even though I always used skill 8 to get a 100% fury attack on ever turn (combo on Sexy Yoruichi).


tl;dr: Zangetsu + 9th skill.

Brahmastra

LadyJessica replied at 2015-8-26 16:42
thanks for replying

The buffs stacking has been gone for a while now lol

LadyJessica

thanks for replying




EDIT: i read another thread they said 9th ability stacks every turn, is that true? >.< cause that would make zabimaru the best since it stacks with 9th

Brahmastra

LadyJessica replied at 2015-8-26 16:16
I'm confused.

Is Zabimaru better for me than Sogyo?

Drukia, Sogyo, Isshin and 5th skill

LadyJessica

I'm confused.

Is Zabimaru better for me than Sogyo?

Isshin gives 100% combo rate so can't use 8th ability, which means best for me is 9th ability, 9th ability doesn't stack with Sogyo. which means Zabi is better right?



I also use Dark Rukia



Dark Rukia+Isshin+9th ability+Zabimaru
or
Dark Rukia+Isshin+8th ability+Zabimaru
or
Dark Rukia+Isshin+9th ability+Sogyo
or
Dark Rukia+Isshin+8th ability+Sogyo




^ Which one is best for me? =\




Just copy paste it so I know which one is best <3




(not neccesasry but I use sexy yurchi as well, if needed lol)

adventurethis

I use Zangetsu + white ichigo for my stacked buff + 8th skill

bwg2469

ikunmX replied at 2015-7-4 08:57
Cuty/d.rukia, pick only one (cuty better) they dont stack anymore
Senbon and 9th skill gives same ic ...

Thank you.....

ikunmX

Cuty/d.rukia, pick only one (cuty better) they dont stack anymore
Senbon and 9th skill gives same icon, so they will overwrite, senbon > 9th skill (25% > 15%) not sure about the number too, need to be confirmed

bwg2469

ikunmX replied at 2015-7-4 06:48
Brah should have given a bit more info in the update
Sogyo + 8th is "best" when you have d.rukia/C.O ...

Oh I can keep my, D.Rukia,Cute,Sexy,Isshin,main setup with senbo and skill 9? or would there be a better setup right now for ES?

ikunmX

Brah should have given a bit more info in the update
Sogyo + 8th is "best" when you have d.rukia/C.Orihime or else zambimaru +  9th skill stacks if you don't have either 1 of those supporter
Zangetsu + 9th skill is better than Zambi + 9th if you still DONT have d.rukia/cuty (considered 3 assaulters for pve since zangetsu gives less damage rate to support)
Senbon + Cuty/D.rukia does stack since different icon