ichibei from halloween carnival

Xcution12

does it have to b top up 300$ or can it be less sicne with the rebate?

Zento-Hazashi

Aristeaus replied at 2015-11-1 04:23
So, based on this post you pretty clearly have no idea what you are talking about. I will try and  ...

My 0% Damage was not to be taken literally, that was to just show how tanky and effective his ability is (ya know, 200% defence is quite the damn lot)
Also if you're going to consider an upgraded partner from another place, why not include an upgraded Ichibe? Wouldn't that be fair? We're talking about the partner alone, not the spending amount, but the partners attributes, what they bring tot he field! Not the damn price!

ofc you need a VG with Hiki lol, it's only 1 round! Tell that to everyone who owns and uses her xD

Yeah i'm F2P, but i've been on enough accounts to not be biased when I speak.

noctustheking

Aristeaus replied at 2015-10-31 23:23
So, based on this post you pretty clearly have no idea what you are talking about. I will try and  ...

http://prntscr.com/8xonsa

and this is how to screw over VGs and most formations XDincluding ichibei

Aristeaus

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-10-31 22:22
You're skipping the point of a VG being a VG to fulfil his role, which is what Ichibe does, better ...

So, based on this post you pretty clearly have no idea what you are talking about. I will try and lay it out for you as simply as I can.

200% Defense does not = 0% damage taken. Not at all how that works.

No, I don't have to consider upgraded Ichibei. It costs a initial 12k gold investment just to buy this character. The evaluation of the character is whether or not that 12k gold would be better spent elsewhere, in which, in this case, it would be spent better in MANY different spots. Even if you want to consider Upgraded Ichibei, you are still 12k gold in the hole. So whatever you spend on Ichibei upgrading, add 12k and spend it on someone else, and you have a better VG. Period.

You flat out do not need a VG when you run Kirio. Period. End of story. If you don't understand why, I cannot help you, and frankly no one can. At no point was that a exaggeration.

The 12k gold you spend on Ichibei is even less valuable then if you spent it on Kirio. You don't get Halloween points, it is just a flat 12k gold. With Kirio, you got Kirio, a bunch of good free stuff and 100+ mod fragments for free.

Finally, aren't you a F2P player? Pretty sure you have no frame of reference for... any of this stuff. It is actually pretty damn simple at the end of the day, but you keep thinking you are right. The only reason to buy this character is if you like him/want him. There is no practical reason to do so.

@ra5h_V

ppl change roles of chars. they put block on main and agi on stark to stop isshin and clear team. they r strategies of meating ppls.

damn new era, 6th growth rate chars prove company dont end game this soon

Zento-Hazashi

Aristeaus replied at 2015-11-1 03:07
It's not at all a exaggeration.

On one end of the spectrum you don't need him because Hikifune.  ...

You're skipping the point of a VG being a VG to fulfil his role, which is what Ichibe does, better than, well any other VG in the game currently, whilst also even more filling to that role is that he buffs your team to literally take 0% Damage (200% defence upgrade).

You're adding so many factors my god xD OFC spending 12K on an already owned partner, nevermind you a red offensive partner, would be better than just buying a straight up partner!

We're talking the partner Ichibe himself, not against an UPGRADED Noza Ken, but a base, just like Ichibe, being a base, if you're going to talk about upgrades, talk about Ichibe upgraded too.

Not too sure if you've witnessed good VG's, but yo, them being the last to survive is a great thing, having so much HP at the end of the fight can win you it, continuously blocking and regenerating HP, as I said, he's made to fill that role of a VG, something you're not seeing. Sure you can buy Hiki or whatever, but damn, as I said, if you're talking about not needing Ichibe if you have Hiki, why need any VG? That's defo an exaggeration to just prove a point.

There isn't much CC to a VG btw, have you seen how many partners can CC a VG? At the top of my head, I think of 3! Noza Ken, Ultima Aizen and B.Rukia, Noza Ken is countered naturally, Ultima Aizen is countered naturally, and B.Rukia is there to fuck up any VG regardless! And take note of who these people are that CC a VG, partners that take the utter piss to obtain, just by lvl of main character alone for 2 of them! You gotta stop including factors from so many different things, 1 or 2 things (Such as meeting certain partners, or being stunned) isn't stopping a VG, or buying one! Whilst stunned, you still block, and defend, why is that important if he's not stunned, look at him at base, what he does and what he brings to a fight, a VG!




Take a giant read to yo' face <3 because my god I want to prove a stupid point

Zento-Hazashi

TanakaAiri replied at 2015-11-1 03:00
I'm more of a person that likes offensive VG's , so I think I'm gonna skip out on him really. Gonna  ...

the only pure offensive red we have is Noza Ken who is a SWP partner, so yeah, definitely one will come down the road, be sure of that

Aristeaus

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-10-31 21:55
Those are specific requirements however, you can't just base your option on whether or not you're  ...

It's not at all a exaggeration.

On one end of the spectrum you don't need him because Hikifune. On the other end, he is likely to be CC'd, and since he is not a offensive VG, if your team dies you just lost the fight.

If you have the capability of spending 12k gold on a character, then you shouldn't be very worried about the middle of the road. People with random stuff aren't a threat to you regardless of who your VG is. You spend 12k on a character you plan on implementing a endgame strategy with.

More often then not Ichibei does nothing. Is he a upgrade to some other VG? Sure, technically. At the same time, if you spent 12k gold on upgrading your Noza you would end up with a better VG then Ichibei.

That is just where he fits into the game currently. Additionally, 12k gold can buy you Hikifune, who would unquestionably provide more for your PvE and PvP team. And again, if you have Hikifune, why would you even want Ichibei at all?

Using UN as a model, the only VG that get used after 3EM  got released are one that casts burn and chaos on the entire team, and one that specifically counters 3EM. None of the others get used at all, and its for very good reason.

TanakaAiri

I'm more of a person that likes offensive VG's , so I think I'm gonna skip out on him really. Gonna wait to see if they release another red partner that's an offensive VG. Its more my style

Zento-Hazashi

Aristeaus replied at 2015-11-1 02:44
Again, he isn't worth getting if the only time he matters is a small percentage of the time.

1: Y ...

Those are specific requirements however, you can't just base your option on whether or not you're getting a partner due to coming across only 1/2 other partners in the game, you have thousands of players to meet and come across! And 2 partners are going to stop you?

That's quite the stretch to say Hiki can do that, exaggerating in an example isn't exactly the best way to prove a point like that
We're also talking about a VG, not Hiki to stop other supporters potential fuck-ups to your own team, you just brought a random third party into this. There's a thing called counters in this game, and unlucky that B.Rukia and SWP Aizen are counters to VG, so include your example to EVERY VG in the game, ever, until their skill literally counters EVERYTHING of SWP Aizen's and B.Rukia's.

In you're logic, if you don't have a Hiki, don't equip a VG since it's absolutely useless.

You're not always going to meet a SWP Aizen or B.Rukia, hell they either take the piss to get or cost a shit-ton, so not much people even have these characters.
And countering what you said on his most type spent doing this:
Stunned - he has a mod for that.
Mutilated - Specific to only 1 Partner in game, goes back to my reason as to why you would buy/not buy a partner.
Chaosed: Also specific to 1 character, and even then, it's based off VG's own damage, so it won't even hurt Ichibe since he's not an offensive VG.
Fossilized: Also specific to 1 character, which is great! Because only normal attacks will hit him, going back to the purpose of a VG, TO TAKE HITS