shura ken necessary?

MikkyX

My dilemma is this.  I got enough stones to get shura ken.  Now I don't know if I should get him since he will replace my tavern kenpachi fully modded.  Yeah I know immediate reaction of everybody is shura ken is way way way better than tavern kenpachi but these are my doubts that I have.   
I use kisuke, shini uruhara main tavern kenpachi and isshin. This is for ES.  Now the thing is I don't have cute orihime.  I'm not sure if I ever gonna get her since I use zangetsu and her buff overwrites zangetsu's.  What I like about kenpachi is that he gives 10% block to assaulters so that really helps a lot.  If I get shura kenpachi, I will no longer get that 10% block so I don't know how I'd do with ES.  Maybe I die faster, or maybe my damage goes up/down, not sure, since don't know how much damage block gave me.  But since it's a fully modded kenpachi, and if I do get shura ken and use him he'll need to be modded first, so I'm not sure.

So, final thoughts, would my damage go up in ES if I use shura ken instead of kenpachi?  Is it better to use shura ken than a fully modded kenpachi who gives 10% block to assaulters?  (For reference, ES level is 149 quincy, 139 shinigamy and 130 arrancar).

Zento-Hazashi

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-30 13:44
Different setups?

different formations, different stacked characters etc.

MikkyX

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-30 08:54
oh you use shini. urahara, hmmm then i dont think I ve a say in it. coz i was using tavern rukia u ...

Yeah, rukia is only good for the fury.  Nothing else after that.  Her skill and growthrate is extremely low, plus you have to cross your fingers and hope she doesn't get blocked because if she does, she takes some good damage, so she doesn't last long.

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MikkyX replied at 2015-11-30 03:03
So kirinji is a good damage dealer for pve?  Hmm didn't know that.  I usually went for kisuke, shi ...

oh you use shini. urahara, hmmm then i dont think I ve a say in it. coz i was using tavern rukia until i got kirinji. and had way too less attack value compared to kiri plus the growth rate on rukia is 80% while kiri has 200% and then the hogyoku's too, need to put purple one for rukia while kiri uses single click exchange so its pretty easy to say that m happy with kiRi against tavern rukia. but in your case, you wont know unless you try it out

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Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-11-30 05:19
Its for different setups,his works better without Kirinji, with 2.5Mil BP here, using Kirinji is m ...

Different setups?

Zento-Hazashi

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-30 07:16
you wrong kirinji is far beter zen, i was doing like 27-28 and max 30mil with kisuke, rukia, main, ...

Its for different setups,his works better without Kirinji, with 2.5Mil BP here, using Kirinji is much worse than using another fury ddealer, so it varies

MikkyX

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-30 02:16
you wrong kirinji is far beter zen, i was doing like 27-28 and max 30mil with kisuke, rukia, main, ...

So kirinji is a good damage dealer for pve?  Hmm didn't know that.  I usually went for kisuke, shini uruhara combo because if shini uruhara crits or kisuke crits, shini uruhara would skill again next turn.  But if you say kirinji has good damage, then I should consider lvling him up because he's just sitting there at lvl 40.

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Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-11-27 20:41
For PVE correct?

I'd honestly say Rukia ^^

you wrong kirinji is far beter zen, i was doing like 27-28 and max 30mil with kisuke, rukia, main, ikaku nd ken. now with kiri i do min 33-34mil plus i got the second star on kiri today so more dmg

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ryujikun18 replied at 2015-11-27 17:41
i run t1 kisuke and rukia with shura and tavern kenpachi with main's 9th skill i do about 27million  ...

not bad ryujikun, i do 33-34 mil in ES with, tavern ken, main, ikaku, kisuke nd kirinji

MikkyX

uwannadonkey replied at 2015-11-29 11:39
10%? sure.

justifying a partner for 10% when you can get it with stones makes no sense.  growth ra ...

that's 10% on 3 assaulters, but I never really considered how much stones were needed for 10%.  Perhaps I should've taken notice of this.  YOu do have a valid point there, but since I have an unused panthera grimjow just sitting there with 2 star at level 90, I'd think shura ken was unecessary.  Perhaps I should've mentioned this earlier.