B.RenjiVsShuraken question

MikkyX

A few weeks ago I posted a stupid question asking who was better shura ken or tavern ken.  I must have been high when I asked that.  So I'm gonna do some redemption hopefully by posting another question.

People saying how good Berserk renji is, but I already got isshin for pve, just finished paying for him.  And I'm 200 stones away from 4000 challenge stones, enough to get shura ken.  

12k gold seems a bit too much for berserk renji.  I could very well get restu unohana kenpachi for that price, or even hiki, though truth be told, I don't need neither.  I wanted to wait to see if they release another support that's equally good and maybe cheaper.


SO on with the important question.  I assume B.renji is better than shura ken.  I'm Using kisuke and kirinji as supports.  And using main and isshin as assaulters, who would be better to get.  Berserk renji or shura ken.

And if the answer is berserk renji, is the difference between berserk renji and shura kenpachi that high of a difference?

MikkyX

NNatsu replied at 2015-12-14 21:40
It doesn't matter in group fights but it does in 1v1's. Living one attack is easy, living two can  ...

OH I'm very well convinced.  Thing is though firstly, he's 12k gold.  A bit pricey for me.  I was thinking about getting hikifune for that same price.  She could be more useful.  

Secondly, I just got shura kenpachi.  Got him so he can give speed bond to shinso gin, when I get him in legend gallery.  IN any case shura kenpachi has helped me out in 1vs1 hollow battle, because I beat the enemy after I skill because he hits hard.  But since he's spirit blade, it's a pain switching gears with him in pve, that's why I was considering getting berserk renji.

If they drop berserk renji's price by 2k, same as isshin, I'd buy him.  Yet again, gogames can be generous and give us berserk renji for next ubp, lol.  

NNatsu

MikkyX replied at 2015-12-14 20:19
Not really.  Can't t1 him.  In any case fury stones don't really matter in group fights. I could v ...

It doesn't matter in group fights but it does in 1v1's. Living one attack is easy, living two can be hard. The reason he's good is once he skills he massively boosts the amount of damage he'll do with his next skill. If you don't skill twice hes not good. You have to be semi-smart if you're going to have him carry you through hollow souls. He's the best pve partner in the game, if you havent been convinced to buy him yet just don't buy him. You're missing out though.

MikkyX

NNatsu replied at 2015-12-14 15:37
It depends if you can t1 him or not. For me, after I got him I killed everyone in the 1v1 in two tu ...

Not really.  Can't t1 him.  In any case fury stones don't really matter in group fights. I could very well use those slots for other stones.

DeEmEn

SeiryuSky replied at 2015-12-13 04:37
UNO KEN SKILL every round cz of combo , renji and keansei recover 100 fury what do you expect? and ...

Have you seen his videos? his uno doesnt skill every round, his main doesnt, his hiki doesnt. You said his team, so his team doesn't include them?

I am done with this. No point of arguing with those who didnt try for shit.
btw, Aristeaus, my damage in ES is around 160-200mil. So... similar to his is still valid. Not BS.

NNatsu

MikkyX replied at 2015-12-14 15:30
Even 1 vs 1?  Because on group fights I kinda manage at times with aizen and gin who stun supports ...

It depends if you can t1 him or not. For me, after I got him I killed everyone in the 1v1 in two turns up until Aizen.
His skill just does so much damage, (reliant on you having high crit on him as well)

MikkyX

NNatsu replied at 2015-12-14 15:23
Once I got Berserk Renji hollow soul became much easier. He's pretty fantastic.

Even 1 vs 1?  Because on group fights I kinda manage at times with aizen and gin who stun supports and assaulters consecutively.  Though it's just the 1vs1 that I barely manage at times with isshin.  

I'd like to know how hard does berserk renji hits there in the 1vs1 fights.

NNatsu

MikkyX replied at 2015-12-14 14:59
I think the main partner there, that makes you doubt for one second, whether to get b.renji or not ...

Once I got Berserk Renji hollow soul became much easier. He's pretty fantastic.

MikkyX

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-12-14 05:20
T1 is important, so yeah leave B.Renji for PVE, unless you can make him a boss and make him 1 shit ...

I think the main partner there, that makes you doubt for one second, whether to get b.renji or not is Hikifune.  She good in pve as I've heard, and is very very good for pvp.  

Though what I'd like to know is how good b.renji is for hollow soul.  Currently I use shura kenpachi for 1vs1 hollow soul and he works great because he hits hard so I finish the enemy in 2 turns.  Way better than my isshin, who I needed a lot of luck to beat the 1vs1 fights.  

I know shini yoro is good there, for the 1vs1 but I see no use for her after there.  

So what I'd really like to know is how good b.renji is for 1vs1 hollow fights.  I know group fights he's very good, but I wonder what about solo hollow fights.

Zento-Hazashi

MikkyX replied at 2015-12-14 01:19
Well that 400% skill on uno ken is really good.  At least gogames made it easier for shinso gin be ...

T1 is important, so yeah leave B.Renji for PVE, unless you can make him a boss and make him 1 shit the 2 folks he hits ^^

Well you see, you should only get Uno I'd you are going to focus her in a way, she needs 'care' and without it she'll be quite terrible :/ so only get her if you can make her great, but instead you can get the others and be fine with them from the start, helping you overall in every situation for both PVP and PVE ^^
Really, I'm kinda trying to say the other 2 partners are great for you being balanced or even assaulter based as they are flexible partners, whilst the Uno Ken is for a support based formation ^^