Is there a way to counter Raijin Yoruichi?

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Is there a way for a low-mid vip like me to win against Raijin users? Im using (fastest from left to right) Kirinji>Senju>Shinso + Renji or VG. My Kirinji engages at 850k speed and gives speed buff to 550k Senju. Problem is that Raijin users at my level usually has speed at 1,5m+, even if put in 6 t12 stones and uppgrade set i wont hit 1,5m mark with Kirinji.  So my question is: is there another way to counter Raijin users than try to play an unfair speed race? i trought about stacking VG, but she cast chaos + multilate aswell so im in a dilemma..
Ps: another thing i trought about is to stack dmg on Renji so he kills on death, but that stuborn brat tends not to die on 1st hit even when i remove all wis-stones.

Miken97

[email protected] replied at 2017-2-15 02:58
nice Noza ^^, im sick of farming mine..  the one Raijin user that screwed me up few days ago was a ...

thanks, took me quite long time to get him and later make him that strong,he still can improve a lot tho
well, as for invicibility it protects you from debuffs/CC/damage but when for example chaos is casted before invicibility then I doubt invicibilty will cancel it, but either way when your character will try to hit himself he will dodge own attack so actually chaos wouldn't be problem in this case, not sure how it will look like with mutilate tho, also raijin can't ignore invicibility so if she skills when invicbilty is already casted then your characters should dodge her attack and every negative effect of her skill. Btw I just noticed that you have b.renji so taking raijin out with b.renj's death mod and stacked vanguard shouldn't be problem

Miken97

mayuri1177 replied at 2017-2-15 02:10
I agree chaos and blocks would be the best things to take her out.  I love when someone gets kille ...

Ikr, it looks beautiful when some expensive partners hit you for 5 damage, and then you kill them just by block, guess you can see it happen more often than me

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[email protected] replied at 2017-2-14 19:58
nice Noza ^^, im sick of farming mine..  the one Raijin user that screwed me up few days ago was a ...

a combination of VG stacking on Noz or potentially TSI/Ichibe/S.kukaku with suicide brenji is your best bet..

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Miken97 replied at 2017-2-14 19:59
well, trying to win in support's fight IMO isn't way to go, probably only way for low vip is stackin ...

nice Noza ^^, im sick of farming mine..  the one Raijin user that screwed me up few days ago was aroud 5,5-6m pvp bp, im at 4,7-5,2 (depends on set-up). but im not speaking particularly just about this guy, im more concerned about other Raijin users that i will have to face sooner or later. We have plenty of em at higher bp's.

Hey, i just trought about somenthing, but im not sure if that will work. I have Kensei that gather dust (got him from ubp for lulz long ago), what if i unlock his 6th star and put him naked in formation? I know that Raijin ignores invincibility, but will multilate/chaos ignore it?

mayuri1177

Miken97 replied at 2017-2-14 19:59
well, trying to win in support's fight IMO isn't way to go, probably only way for low vip is stackin ...

I agree chaos and blocks would be the best things to take her out.  I love when someone gets killed from blocks.

Miken97

well, trying to win in support's fight IMO isn't way to go, probably only way for low vip is stacking noza (assuming you are at least vip 5) and killing raijin by blocks before she skills again or at least before mutilate kills your vanguard, stacked noza shouldn't get any significant damage from yoru exept mutilate, mutilate is 25% and last 3 turns so if you can kill yoru before she skills, mutilate will deal to you 75%, with remaining 25% (+additional hp you get from hp regen)you have to survive every other attack,  whether noza can do it or not depends on rest of your opponent team, assuming that raijin yoru is his only top-tier partner and he focuses on her completly then noza against rest of non-stacked characters shouldn't have any problems. That being said I don't really have that good comparison since on my server there are only 2 raijin yoru: one belongs to player who is lot stronger than me and second to player who is lot weaker than me. Here's BR against weaker one http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... d=58&t=1&lang=en_US (not the best one to base on because of difference in our strenght but don't have anything better). Damage dealt by stronger yoru won't change much but her survivability will (can't say how much tho because stronger player runs RJ), I'm not sure if noza could kill her fast enough (without RJ of course) but probably answer is yes. Anyway, to beat raijin you will need lot of stacking for sure

mayuri1177

[email protected] replied at 2017-2-14 19:04
No, i usually survive the pure damage. Problem lie in multilate & chaos, it screw me up quite badly ...

Nemu is pretty fast, but if your Kirinji is that much slower, she wouldn't help as much.  If she was faster, her skill removes fury from supporters so that would remove T1 from Yoruichi.  If you get Nemu's death skill, she causes chaos on the enemy support so you could have his team killed by own supporters.

chiko88soem

[email protected] replied at 2017-2-15 01:04
No, i usually survive the pure damage. Problem lie in mutilate & chaos, it screw me up quite badly. ...

Elegant unohana http://bleach-online-user.wikia.com/wiki/Elegant_Unohana can remove the chaos, sadly not the multilate

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mayuri1177 replied at 2017-2-14 18:24
Her skill is like Kirinji's in that it is random with the chaos and mutilate.  The skill itself is w ...

No, i usually survive the pure damage. Problem lie in mutilate & chaos, it screw me up quite badly.
Haschwalth is a bit to expensive for my broke ass. But how can Nemu help me if she is naturally much slower than Yorui?
Ps: im not having any big hopes for beating these set-ups, she is orange partner for a reason. i were just curious if there was a way to beat her in a different game.