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author: Azureblaise    time: 2015-1-15 19:38:38     Title: ROFL. Fk You Joint Task?

Edited by Azureblaise at 2015-1-15 18:40

Anyone checked EU server recently, and saw how much you got to top up and then spend to get Shinso Gin? Thats like 2 car payments for me.... Umm hahah,, go fuck yourself Gogames <3

For those who don't save gold, this sucks... for those who do... THIS SUCKS HARDER.

Key tasks. SPEND 35000 GOld/Coupons
TOP UP 28000!!!!!!! o-o
author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-1-15 20:38:19

now people might reconsider getting zangetsu
author: watman    time: 2015-1-15 20:51:18

This is a great event.
84 * 350 = 29400 gold to get Zangetsu

Top up for Zangetsu, still possible to get:

3x Level 7 Hogu
1x Level 80 Ultimate Equip
2x Level 100 equip or access
3x Partners *sexy yoruichi / shinigami urahara / zabimaru renji / shinigami yoruichi / toshiro

1x Shinsoo Gin

Leftover ~5k gold to spend, go get some level 4 stone packs.
Dang..
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-1-15 21:00:29

watman replied at 2015-1-15 19:51
This is a great event.
84 * 350 = 29400 gold to get Zangetsu



hmmmm i wouldnt do tht tho...

i ll spend 35k on other things...

eg : lvl 110 ulti... stones... n stones... wont b on REIO i guess unless i wan SEXY yorui...

but dang... its a good deal ... Shin Gin hav come way down in price...

i remember him being 45k gold at least ?
author: watman    time: 2015-1-15 21:08:40

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-15 20:00
hmmmm i wouldnt do tht tho...

i ll spend 35k on other things...

For people whose server just started, Rei'o Guardian will put them at Top Tier status with ridiculous partners

Toshiro
Main - Sexy or Shini Yoru
Shinso Gin / Shini Urahara


I'd personally get my stones up to level 10 or get Sogyo + Sexy Yoru in preparation to build my end game PvE
author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-1-15 21:27:42

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-15 20:00
hmmmm i wouldnt do tht tho...

i ll spend 35k on other things...

what did i tell you pao xD 1 month everything will drop
author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-1-15 21:28:43

watman replied at 2015-1-15 19:51
This is a great event.
84 * 350 = 29400 gold to get Zangetsu

gotta remember its still 900$ lmao...
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-1-15 22:18:39

i personally dont see anything good about him to cost 900$
author: watman    time: 2015-1-15 22:56:33

Edited by watman at 2015-1-16 00:00

Highest Speed Available
All Team fury -> Replaces Kisuke
All HitAssaulter + Support Stun
High base stats
End Game Character

Free with the purchase of 35,000 gold worth of other stuff.
author: Aristeaus    time: 2015-1-16 00:21:03

[email protected] replied at 2015-1-15 21:18
i personally dont see anything good about him to cost 900$

He doesn't cost 900$. He is free with the purchase of other stuff.
author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-1-16 01:29:20

Aristeaus replied at 2015-1-15 23:21
He doesn't cost 900$. He is free with the purchase of other stuff.

they use psychology on you and its working.
author: watman    time: 2015-1-16 01:39:22

He is technically free...
You don't pay directly for him =_=

He's 1/3rd the price he was originally offered for in the New Years Event
Top up for all level 4 spirit stone packs, and you might even get enough fury stones for t1 on him =P
author: jimmyoz    time: 2015-1-16 01:58:49

is it me or shinso gin actually weaker than cs aisen stat wise.
author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-1-16 02:07:31

watman replied at 2015-1-16 00:39
He is technically free...
You don't pay directly for him =_=

ya but people who are like "naw ill skip this event" and then sees the gin and be like "omg im gonna do it, he's "free" if i buy all this..." get the idea?
author: watman    time: 2015-1-16 02:31:14

I see the fine line of trickery there, but we all know level 10 stones don't drop out of the sky.
Neither can you just scoff at pairing 'free' Shinso GIn with getting Zangetsu or Hyorinmaru & Sogyo

You can pick up both hyorin/sogyo and grab a few really good partners, other bonuses we all know about and wind up with Shinso Gin as well
I can't see any formation not benefiting from Shinso Gin
author: nieverland    time: 2015-1-16 02:32:18

BurakCinar replied at 2015-1-16 01:07
ya but people who are like "naw ill skip this event" and then sees the gin and be like "omg im gon ...

yeh ofc greedygames love that ppl, isnt free at all but if they swallow the bite greedy games can sleep tonight anyway you need to top up at least $700 USD , but sure hurry guys is Shinso Gin and is "FREEEEEEE"
author: iz4n4minok4mi    time: 2015-1-16 03:29:37

Lol he isnt free. Even if you had 35k gold already so you could spend them you still need to top up 28k gold which is 700$. Still cheaper than during christmass event though.
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-1-16 03:55:55

dang... this offer is like too hard to resist... i am still ponderin whether i should get him or not...

yeah... if i top up 28k which is 700 bucks... no biggies for me... n lucky i hav like almost 8k gold sittin there

from my daily top up of 400g... on some good events...

n best part is... spendin 35k gold n gettin him... isnt tht hard... REIO event doesnt benefit me much tho... except for gettin

sogyo n sexy yorui for ES...

but i am thinkin its better for me to spend 35k gold on .... lvl 110 ulti set n also somemore stones n a lil more fury so i can hav

more T1 originals... would be the better way...

but heres the thing... do i need shin gin ? maybe not now ? also wonderin if he is good for ES ? to replace either kisuke or rukia....

but i know he is 100% good for PVP ... if i skip this event... will he come back again on a better deal ? hmmmmmm
coz he came back out in less than a month after his first release...

so how many ppl will get shin gin again ? care to share y u wanna get him ? n how u wanna spend tht 35k gold ?


author: Brahmastra    time: 2015-1-16 05:29:05

I don't understand why people want that Gin so much. I mean yeah he's good if you have T1 fury on him. Other than that I rather use T1 fury on CSB Aizen and dump 700 bucks into stones.
author: gr8nesh18    time: 2015-1-16 06:07:33

$700 only for topup and spend is good rather last christmas event is way stupid, u got partner u got stones or item, christmas only for buy partner 70k gold insane.
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-1-16 06:08:30

700 bucks on stones is the only thing worth it, rest all is just gimmick to please one's own mind into spending it for another partner
author: UnKnOwNHoLlOw    time: 2015-1-16 08:48:35     Title: RE: ROFL. Fk You Joint Task?

jimmyoz replied at 2015-1-16 00:58
is it me or shinso gin actually weaker than cs aisen stat wise.

shinso gin has 15% more agility than aizen cause of his talent....but overall stats and skill wise i think aizen is better ...i could be wrong though ....
author: nurul23495    time: 2015-1-16 09:08:54

Sometimes, i who is the player who paid the most in this game? How much did he has paid in this game? Is it so much that he/she could buy a house/car with it?
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-1-16 09:21:13

Brahmastra replied at 2015-1-16 04:29
I don't understand why people want that Gin so much. I mean yeah he's good if you have T1 fury on hi ...



yeah... u spend 700 - 900 bucks into stones... n u get Gin...

.... ermmm btw i forgot wat was the req when Gin first came out...

i onli know u got to spend n get cards... n then use the cards to bring it down on the discounts...

so basically i think u r payin for it n u dun get stones...

author: UnKnOwNHoLlOw    time: 2015-1-16 09:24:11     Title: RE: ROFL. Fk You Joint Task?

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-16 08:21
yeah... u spend 700 - 900 bucks into stones... n u get Gin...

.... ermmm btw i forgot wat was  ...

72K gold   
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-1-16 09:37:03

Edited by [email protected] at 2015-1-16 22:51

I guess the event is not that bad..
Because you will spend the gold to get zangetsu in reio + OP partners + ultimate equips + 7x lvl 7 wisdom stones + lvl 7 hogu xxx
If you don't need zangetsu.. only spend for the OP partners then the rest is in the Ultimate BP library + spirit stone shop
And then u will also get the shins gin
Or maybe tomorrow's reward is White Ichigo.. too OP


author: YagamiLi    time: 2015-1-16 10:04:34

what u guys don't seem to consider, is the fact that the gold prices here are still more than double china/vietnamese/indonesia

while you're blowing all that money while it could be invested in something worthwile (something you can actually profit off of)

it just stagnates and you're left with a still born child and some temporary excitement.

it's a steep price to pay

unless you're already rich like Wis or Barrack
author: gr8nesh18    time: 2015-1-16 10:29:07

indonesia same price as US/EU
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-1-16 10:29:50

YagamiLi replied at 2015-1-16 09:04
what u guys don't seem to consider, is the fact that the gold prices here are still more than double ...


LOL... i am not as rich as Wis or Masaki or whoever there is here...

i just wanna know if its realli worth it to get Gin...

BTW... since u r here bro... do u think Gin would be good for PVE ES ?

n for those who alrd gotten Shin Gin earlier... does his STUN... hits ALL ?

Since he ATTKS all ...

every single info will help me consider if i would get Shin Gin...

n if i get him... i think i ll drop CSB Aizen... n get Shura Ken ... or CSB Byakuya...
author: YagamiLi    time: 2015-1-16 10:34:00

Edited by YagamiLi at 2015-1-16 09:38
PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-16 09:29
LOL... i am not as rich as Wis or Masaki or whoever there is here...

i just wanna know if its r ...

if i had 800 dollars to waste i'd get him

the stun only applies to support and assaulter, and it only has a (chance) very low succession

yes it's better than rukia and uruhara

CSB aizen is a good choice for PVE (hollow soul, also pvp stun + fury reduct), would get him first anyway, just because you can easily regain the 4k over time.

800 for me to spend on an ultimate set and stones and get the gin for free, is a decent plan.. still crazy for someone in the real world away from internet land, but were all in this together
but I can't generalize like that either, u get ppl that spend alot of money on women for "services" too
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-1-16 10:48:07

YagamiLi replied at 2015-1-16 09:34
if i had 800 dollars to waste i'd get him

the stun only applies to support and assaulter, and it o ...


well its onli 700 bucks for me... altho our stupid currency now fallin like crazy...

i am payin 3.7x more... still i think its not too bad if i can justify it...

but how come he onli stuns assaulters n supporters when his skill is attk all... ???

yeah i know tht low succesion... but dang... he doesnt reduce fury... i need someone who can

reduce fury n stun... xixixixi...

yeah if i were to get it... i ll no longer b v9... sobz sobz... no more fun there winnin some v10's...

xixixixi...

well i do wan to hav more focus on my PVE ES... other than ES n ryoka... i dun realli bother much

about other PVEs....

n yeah some ppl here so spend a lot of $$... n yeah some spend a lot on girlies too... xixixixi...

last 2 weeks + ago... i think i spend more than a Shin Gin on tht... but its part of my job...

to keep my clients happy n entertained...

  
author: Brahmastra    time: 2015-1-16 11:13:10

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-16 09:48
well its onli 700 bucks for me... altho our stupid currency now fallin like crazy...

i am payin ...

I still wonder what kind of job you have, it sounds rather interesting LOL
author: YagamiLi    time: 2015-1-16 11:15:57

Edited by YagamiLi at 2015-1-16 10:20
PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-16 09:48
well its onli 700 bucks for me... altho our stupid currency now fallin like crazy...

i am payin ...

My currency (CDN) is dropping too, but atleast our gas prices are getting lower aswell

thanks obama.... >_>

I think you just want the "fury reduc" to stand a chance against players that are stronger than you.

if that's the case you should be more interested in investing in an Isshin, his talent increases speed by 18%.

Since I already know who you're trying to kill, in my own shoes if I were to attempt the same thing with about 2-2.5grand of spending money, I would just boost isshins speed and attack and that's an easy win aswell.

you already have the stones for it, you can probably get the isshin over 200k speed np
isshin is faster than GIN
author: Brahmastra    time: 2015-1-16 11:56:47

Aww sogyo is next
author: traxson    time: 2015-1-16 12:44:52

lol dont have the top up thing to get ultimate prize just easy tasks what you ppl on about the top soooo much not on my server you complete task that are there its based on luck as the task you get
author: KelisTormoris    time: 2015-1-16 13:40:10

traxson replied at 2015-1-16 11:44
lol dont have the top up thing to get ultimate prize just easy tasks what you ppl on about the top s ...

maybe you should scroll the list down instead of looking at just the first 4 of about 10 . then you see the full list with the top up/spend on it.

So many people dont look at events before opening their mouths!
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-1-16 13:48:03

YagamiLi replied at 2015-1-16 10:15
My currency (CDN) is dropping too, but atleast our gas prices are getting lower aswell

thanks o ...


lol... fuel price is lowered even here... but tht does not affect me much...

coz i never pay for my fuel price... wakakakakakaka...

n yeah... i would luv fury reduction skills...  i would luv to get isshin tho...

i saw how he do in PVP... its kinda of awesome too... esp vs ppl wit 1 3 1 formation...

they r just like sittin ducks... well who else tht is stronger than me tht i hav to kill...

of coz its ur boss... LOL... wow... i see he hav gotten tht lvl 110 ulti too... well mine is up n comin too...

well i guess u need 200k speed n above to kill the boss... wakakakakakakakaka...





Brah .  LOL... well u know when u need to entertain the clients... so u get some nice jobs...

          so u got to keep them happy... spendin 2k might get u a 50k job thingy ... xixixixi...
   
          yeah... i guess i luv my job... n luv wat i am doin...
author: 595459354    time: 2015-1-16 13:51:40

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-16 19:48
lol... fuel price is lowered even here... but tht does not affect me much...

coz i never pay fo ...

You had my attention but now you have my curiosity, specially the 'entertaining part'
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-1-16 14:22:22

Edited by PAOFUI at 2015-1-16 13:24
595459354 replied at 2015-1-16 12:51
You had my attention but now you have my curiosity, specially the 'entertaining part'



lol... thts y i luv my job... wakakakakakakakaka...

another question...

if i top up 28000g... i ll get fury stone 4 x 3 ? is tht rite ?


author: Brahmastra    time: 2015-1-16 14:24:38

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-16 13:22
lol... thts y i luv my job... wakakakakakakakaka...

another question...

4 fury stones and 3 extra draws, middle "lucky draw" tab

sounds like you got an awesome job HAHA
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-1-16 14:30:21

Brahmastra replied at 2015-1-16 13:24
4 fury stones and 3 extra draws, middle "lucky draw" tab

sounds like you got an awesome job HAHA ...


oh... ok... no i understan...

thanx thanx... 3 extra middle draw is pretty lame...

so who is next after shin gin ? sogyo i heard ? or isit someone else ?



well yeah... pros n cons... about my job... sometimes havin fun too much aint good...

hmmmm so anyone gettin shin gin this time around ?


author: Brahmastra    time: 2015-1-16 14:30:24

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-16 13:30
oh... ok... no i understan...

thanx thanx... 3 extra middle draw is pretty lame...

ya sogyo is tomorrow, you have to top up 8k and spend 5k.
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-1-16 14:31:45

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-16 23:30
oh... ok... no i understan...

thanx thanx... 3 extra middle draw is pretty lame...

no sensible person would go after him for this price
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-1-16 14:33:38

ajoalex replied at 2015-1-16 13:31
no sensible person would go after him for this price


lol... he is much cheaper than he first came out u know...

35000g ... n u get to spend on the things u like...

n on top of tht so many other goodies...



just curious about his stun thingy... i wonder if wis is here to shed some light...

n how often does Shin Gin Stun triggers... coz it says low chances....
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-1-16 14:35:01

Brahmastra replied at 2015-1-16 13:30
ya sogyo is tomorrow, you have to top up 8k and spend 5k.


dang... sogyo... sigh... so if i miss this chance i wonder if shin gin will appear... or

if theres better...

i guess u got the preview from INDO server ? tht server alwiz dammm laggy... n so hard to log in...

author: watman    time: 2015-1-16 16:53:53

Edited by watman at 2015-1-16 15:57

Shin Gin's stun chance is very low; very very low.

But T1 Shin Gin is nice
author: Aristeaus    time: 2015-1-16 17:15:10

watman replied at 2015-1-16 15:53
Shin Gin's stun chance is very low; very very low.

But T1 Shin Gin is nice

Not as low as you would think. Give him the highest +stun accessory set you have. It is very unlikely the way accessory S-Forge is set up that the opponent have a full -stun accessory set on EVERY person.
author: Shahadem    time: 2015-1-16 17:42:19

watman replied at 2015-1-16 00:39
He is technically free...
You don't pay directly for him =_=

He's not free if you only made those purchases in order to get him.

And $900 is GoGames reaching into your wallet and stealing your credit card.
author: Shahadem    time: 2015-1-16 17:45:51

ajoalex replied at 2015-1-16 13:31
no sensible person would go after him for this price

That's what makes me think that the people who pay these ridiculous prices aren't earning six figure salaries. I mean if the barrier for entry into those professions that low? If so, I know what my next career is going to be.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2015-1-16 18:26:31

I am earning almost 6 figures salary but still won't spend this much in the game lol.
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-1-16 20:50:58

watman replied at 2015-1-16 15:53
Shin Gin's stun chance is very low; very very low.

But T1 Shin Gin is nice



ermmmm hav u tested him out ?

i heard his stun chances can improve wit ACS.... n i got red ACS ...

yeah i ll hav T1 on him too if i get him...

but no fury deduction kinda suck... xixixixi
author: watman    time: 2015-1-16 21:05:56

Yeah, he stuns some times, just not a lot.
I will have to wait until level 100 when I can wear the level 100 spirit accessories to see how much that helps.

I do get a lot of combos though between him and shini urahara though.
Gins super fast speed gives him two chances to stun before most people get to go once, but it's not something I count on.

No fury deduction does suck, but if they gave that to gin... that'd be OP.  That'd be equivalent of a 3-turn control, with 3 additional chances in between for more...
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-1-16 23:33:37

watman replied at 2015-1-16 20:05
Yeah, he stuns some times, just not a lot.
I will have to wait until level 100 when I can wear the l ...


ahhh... ok then...

well i guess i ll hav decided i skip Gin for now.. n see wats good later...

coz my Gin n Aizen work wonders now... altho i got to stick wit a 1 2 2 formation...

altho i know if i use Shin Gin i ll probably touch 220k speed...
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-1-16 23:53:10

gin proven to be a waste for all that money spent. start saving vitality ppl, and get him for free.
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-1-16 23:57:07

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-17 08:33
ahhh... ok then...

well i guess i ll hav decided i skip Gin for now.. n see wats good later...  ...

wats the speed of your gin?
author: watman    time: 2015-1-17 00:27:36

ajoalex replied at 2015-1-16 22:53
gin proven to be a waste for all that money spent. start saving vitality ppl, and get him for free.

Wouldn't say he's a total waste.
Beat Barragan Espada #2 with him today.
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-1-17 01:01:21

watman replied at 2015-1-17 09:27
Wouldn't say he's a total waste.
Beat Barragan Espada #2 with him today.

i would call it a waste cos you are spending money for something that is not end game. all shin gin does is gives that extra damage, neither does he deduct fury neither does he high stun. I would rather spend 35kg on spirit stones to get 6 lvl 10 AGI stones on tavern gin and make him OP. he is the best for ES/ryoka

but yes anyone is free to buy him, just that its not a good deal unless one wants to go for the zanpakuto and other items from reio then but then again that is just someone assuring them that they are getting gin for free when they are actually buying the rest to get a free shin gin.

i would say not to look at espadas to win fights, cos they are heavily stronger than we are, so not to topup just to beat them, its a way of making ppl topup , i would say go slow and think properly before investing in an event player, esp their dojo is tough so we need to be sure before getting one if we will actually want them for their base stats or partner mods or etc. but yes congo on getting him !!

one question, how did having him in your team help you beat barragan 5v5? could you share the strategy? does shin gin have a higher stun chance than tavern gin?
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-1-17 02:55:03

ajoalex replied at 2015-1-17 00:01
i would call it a waste cos you are spending money for something that is not end game. all shin gi ...



ermmmm Shin Gin not end game ? hmmm...

SWP Aizen ? but SWP Aizen doesnt need $$ for now... u can get him slowly... in HMA...

CSB Aizen is also FREE... xixixixixi...
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-1-17 03:05:55

PAOFUI replied at 2015-1-17 11:55
ermmmm Shin Gin not end game ? hmmm...

SWP Aizen ? but SWP Aizen doesnt need $$ for now... u c ...

if i start now i will get ultima aizen in 5.3 months
i am aiming for csb aizen, should get him in 3 months.

even if the timeframe was same, i would rather go for csb aizen

ah well, all will take ages. how many more challenge stones for you to get csb aizen? has anyone got him yet?
author: Aristeaus    time: 2015-1-17 03:21:29

ajoalex replied at 2015-1-17 00:01
i would call it a waste cos you are spending money for something that is not end game. all shin gi ...

How exactly is Tavern Gin the best for ES/Ryoka? He is pretty much garbage for those events. He cannot stun or reduce fury on them.

You know, you buying 35k worth of spirit stones gives you Shinso Gin for free, right? lol

Shinso Gin is one of the best characters in the entire game. He is very much endgame, depending on your setup.
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-1-17 03:29:10



i think another 2000 more plus minus...

CSB Aizen here i come... i think he is onli better bcoz he has minus fury... but its low chance n onli -10 fury

CSB Aizen
Talent: Increase 30% agility, with additional 10% immune rate and 7% combo rate.
Skill: Attack all enemy, amp 130%, low possibility reduce their fury point by 10 and stun them (3 turns).

overall his speed is slower than Shin Gin...

Shin Gin
Talent: Increase 45% agility, with additional 7% immune rate and 7% combo rate.
Skill: Attack all enemy, amp 120%, very low possibility to stun them (two turns), recover self fury by 100 and recover all allies fury by 25.

BUT ... CSB Aizen is FREE ... wakakakakakakakakakaka...

i wonder who has CSB Aizen ? anyone hav been spammin gold to get him ?
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-1-17 03:44:05

Aristeaus replied at 2015-1-17 12:21
How exactly is Tavern Gin the best for ES/Ryoka? He is pretty much garbage for those events. He ca ...

i ended tavern gin's topic with the agi stone sentence, the best was for shin gin. tavern gin i use only for pvp.
and yeah i was talking in totality esp w.r.t to the other event where people bought him which was around for 35k g i believe, i also mentioned its best to get him for free .


how is shin gin endgame ? imo he is a waste of support lane for pvp, i would rather have someone who deducts fury or a high stun in my support lane. unless he is for fun purpose(like how i got my nel and will be upgrading her), i dunno how shin gin can be used in a pvp setup, for me i would use him only in ES/ryoka . do let me know as i lack the game setup detail info as you do, i would love to know. thanks
author: Aristeaus    time: 2015-1-17 04:09:52

ajoalex replied at 2015-1-17 02:44
i ended tavern gin's topic with the agi stone sentence, the best was for shin gin. tavern gin i us ...

Gin is the best fury generator in the game. T1 Tav Urahara + T1 Gin = T1 everything. Same concept as rukia, but much much better.

Attack all's are way to undervalued in this game. 100% fury return is undervalued in this game. You get both here. 120% and a chance to stun every single turn is extremely powerful. He has the potential to perma lock entire teams. Forever. The likely hood of that happening is almost non-existent, but it is still quite good. His growth rates are some of the highest in the game as well as having a 45% agility talent.

In a 3-1-1 setup, Gin is the 2nd best #3 support you can find. While you do need control for lanes, you can get that with Shini Urahara and Tavern Gin, aside from Ultima Aizen, there is no better. Gin pairs very well with debuff effects, as it buys you more and more time to land those stuns and wittle away the opponent every turn.

In a 2-2-1 setup, Tavern Urahara T1 into Shinso Gin T1 is the best fury set up in the game.

You can use other things in place of him, like CSB Aizen ( who is vastly inferior to Shinso Gin ), but at the end of the day he is what you want.

As far as ES/Ryoka, he isn't that much better then Tavern Urahara. The difference is essentially 20% skill growth, and some stat growth. Nothing to write home about. His strength lies in hard PvE content and PvP.

If you every played UN, He is basically a copy of Outer Path Obito. Obito has 35% higher skill growth, but does not have stun chance. Other then that, they are very very close. Outer Path Obito is one of the stronger ninja in that game, and is a part of almost every VIP players formation, and they have access to some REDICULOUS characters over there.
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-1-17 04:34:24

Edited by ajoalex at 2015-1-17 13:36
Aristeaus replied at 2015-1-17 13:09
Gin is the best fury generator in the game. T1 Tav Urahara + T1 Gin = T1 everything. Same concept  ...

" chance to stun every single turn is extremely powerful." afaik support barely gets 1-2 chances against a strong opponent before the opponent main one shots the support.
next, if its not a strong opponent then the advantage that shin gin has over say tavern gin is not significantly high, i think a fury deducter lives more rounds than any other support in the game with the same gear, correct me if i am wrong here.

"In a 2-2-1 setup, Tavern Urahara T1 into Shinso Gin T1 is the best fury set up in the game."
this is good only for ES/ryoka, i wouldn't use shin gin for pvp, i would rather use tavern gin(or any other fury deducter) for pvp cos tavern gin reduces the chance of opp main doing skill (low chance of stunning both has so not discussing about this).

csb aizen vs shin gin in pvp, again i differ with you on this.
csb aizen
Talent: Increase 30% agility, with additional 10% immune rate and 7% combo rate.
Skill: Attack all enemy, amp 130%, low possibility reduce their fury point by 10 and stun them (3 turns).

shin gin
Talent: Increase 45% agility, with additional 7% immune rate and 7% combo rate.
Skill: Attack all enemy, amp 120%, very low possibility to stun them (two turns), recover self fury by 100 and recover all allies fury by 25.

cons of csb aizen over shin gin
-that 10 deduct fury is all one needs cos majority adds only the required number of fury for 100% fury, so 10 fury gone means no T1
-low stun vs very low stun(not sure if that actually matters), but if stun, then for 3 rounds vs 2 of shin gin

i am not sure here again why one would go for shin gin over csb aizen in pvp, do let me know cos i am going for csb aizen in the long run.

man, we really need more characters in this game, i am so waiting to get ryuken ishida(hoping him to be a crit+ assaulter , attack all enemies #bling)
Edit: Also my above analysis will go wrong if csb aizen has only a chance of deducting fury and not actually deduct fury, so would like to confirm that with someone
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-1-17 04:42:00

Aristeaus replied at 2015-1-17 13:09
Gin is the best fury generator in the game. T1 Tav Urahara + T1 Gin = T1 everything. Same concept  ...

in  3-1-1, isn't tavern gin and aizen a good combo, cos that would literally reduce fury and stun someone or the other in each assaulter n support lanes.
author: fablewings    time: 2015-1-17 05:40:37

Edited by fablewings at 2015-1-17 04:44

Basically. If you have an arm to lose buy gin.

If you don't, spend 1-3 months getting Aizen.

The time you spend to get Aizen get a job.
Buy gin.

author: gr8nesh18    time: 2015-1-17 06:30:01

the more lvl u have the more u cant stun use tavern gin, same case like momo, shin gin = ura + gin + aizencsb.
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-1-17 07:23:19

ajoalex replied at 2015-1-17 03:42
in  3-1-1, isn't tavern gin and aizen a good combo, cos that would literally reduce fury and stun  ...


Well... Tavern Gin n Tavern Aizen does wonders too... esp both with T1...

So a 2 2 1 formation is good wit them both in which i hav....

Deduct fury plus stun... means high chance opponent crippled...

Thts y i m waitin for CSB Aizen... since i m not too far away from gettin him....

But i ll still get Shin Gin when he gets cheaper... for my 1 3 1 formation...

As for Fury booster yeah... Shin Gin is good to replace Kisuke... or u might wanna use both to

Further save on fury stones...

author: battletag    time: 2015-1-17 08:02:09

money money money

all they want is our money

when people pay gogames get greedy and think everyone can do it

i agree with OP statement
author: watman    time: 2015-1-17 09:00:44

We're entitled to our own opinions and what we think is best.
And I think shin is the best fury regen partner available.

I beat Espada #2 middle mob 5-man, because Shin stunned the supports.
I cleared the solo fight with Shin Yoru; her invulnerability is amazing.
Third solo fight I was kido main, so Barragan barely tickled.
Shin Gin stunned a few once again in the team fight, so I breezed through.
I'm level 89.

Espada #1 first hits wayyy too hard for me right now ='[


I don't know what you mean when you say Shinso Gin isn't end-game; he's amongst the fastest end-game characters.
The mods will take a while, but the potential is there, and they get easier as you get stronger.  I didn't think I could pass stage 10 on shini yoru, but I have done that now.
Slowly moving on to stage 15.
Shin Gin is momo/kisuke/aizen all in one.  Only thing missing is fury reduction, which if Shin Gin was given, he'd be broken.

I don't know about you, but I like being able to skill every other turn, hence why I've always kept Rukia.  
I replaced Rukia t1 into t1 main and t1 shini yoru with Shin Gin t1 into t1 main, because Shin Gin is simply more powerful.
And Rukia's speed was capping my main and shini yoru's speed too low.  Rukia has no speed talent, and it was hard to keep her faster than my main/yoru even with +18% speed from Hyorinmaru...
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-1-17 09:26:40

Edited by PAOFUI at 2015-1-17 08:27
watman replied at 2015-1-17 08:00
We're entitled to our own opinions and what we think is best.
And I think shin is the best fury rege ...


well ... u ll rock the stage wit ur Shin Gin... thts for sure...

n yeah... wit him around... even espadas r much easier...

wat kinda of formation u runnin wit Shin Gin ? 1 3 1 ?

n yeah... Rukia speed cant go higher n its much harder for u to hav her speed up...

even if u r usin lvl 12 agi stones... bcoz of her purple hogu... n hogu r the ones tht make

ur stats jump
also since u r lvl 89... u wont be able to get Tavern Gin n Tavern Aizen...

so Shin Gin is a big big bonus for u ... to be very competitive... n if u hav higher lvl opponents...

if ur Gin is faster... u might be able to topple those higher lvl n powerful opponents down...


author: watman    time: 2015-1-17 09:35:25

I'm running 1-2-2, gives me the most coverage and best uses my Zanpaktou.
I'd like to go back to a 1-3-1, so I don't have to swap for Ryoka, but I don't have Zangetsu to make best use of the buff.  
Wasn't in my plans to get Zangetsu; always a fan of Hyorinmaru, manga and after seeing #1 in my server using him
Wish Hyorinmaru was more dragon like, and Toshiro VG should've had Daiguuren Hyorinmarus sprite =_=

But because of Hyorinmaru, it's best to run a 1-2-2
I'm shooting for Tensa Zangetsu when he comes out, so in the end, 1-1-3
Max speed buff +21%?

Think I told you already, but:
Was thinking end-game:

Tensa Zangetsu
Nozarashi
Main
Shin Gin - Ultima Aizen - CSB Aizen or Shini Urahara depending on opponents
Should be enough stuns for many
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-1-17 10:21:06

watman replied at 2015-1-17 08:35
I'm running 1-2-2, gives me the most coverage and best uses my Zanpaktou.
I'd like to go back to a 1 ...


hmmmm i tot... hyorin is good for 1 1 3 ?

coz its supporter based zank ?

well my end game would be i guess...

CSB Aizen . Nora Ken... Shin Gin maybe... Shini Yorui... for PVP maybe...

not sure... coz mine is like forever changin... due to opponents....
author: Brahmastra    time: 2015-1-17 12:02:12

1x Str, Wis, Stam, Agil level 7 is the next reward.
author: traxson    time: 2015-1-18 20:17:46

KelisTormoris replied at 2015-1-16 12:40
maybe you should scroll the list down instead of looking at just the first 4 of about 10 . then yo ...

it doesn't say top up in my task boxes and ive checked like i said its different task completion for everyone
author: watman    time: 2015-1-18 20:59:10

Traxson, I take it you got Shin Gin?
author: traxson    time: 2015-1-19 11:48:13

watman replied at 2015-1-18 19:59
Traxson, I take it you got Shin Gin?

if i could log into my server i might of gotten him or other things but no as server been down for nearly 2 days now
author: watman    time: 2015-1-19 14:06:14

How quaint



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