Need help to counter H.I + HitsuGAYa

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One dud in CSB probably won in a lottery and stacked up quite scary team. In short: I need suggestion on how to make H.I not to one-shot my team? Possibly in a cheap way.
Also would be great if somebody explained how:
1.) H.I's passive scale - does he reduce my def to 0% on round one or is it -25% every round until i get to 0%? If that Ichigo i faced is doing such dmg, how do people deal with stacked ones
2.) The most important - how does Hitsugaya skill work - sometime i can attack / sometime i cant do/get anything, not even regain HP from Unohana death.

I figured out that it has somenthing to do with being slower, so i manipulated with speed and won after ~10 tries thanks to lucky aid-rate and not being iced - yet i still do not know exactly how that ice work. Here's replay with my lucky win: http://mybankai.game.ggcorp.me/f ... d=58&t=1&lang=en_Eu  But all my other tries it ended up like that: http://mybankai.game.ggcorp.me/f ... d=58&t=1&lang=en_Eu exept for older tries i wasnt even able to attack because of ice. I can't rely on perfect aid-rate all the time.

Thanks.

desintegra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdXx1OPcmWo
everything is simple) btw that guy's power is 4mil higher than mine )

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[email protected] replied at 2017-11-3 14:52
Damn, your the reason they changed void defence

Yeah i noticed that chaos wont help agains ...

In the event he got all his team, all he did was top up 30k gold, he got hell ichigo "for free", and with the rest of the gold he was able to get probably some lvl 140 set/lvl 140 special accessories + all the partners he has now, i think the event name was october festival? Really good event to top up(toshiro was around 20k gold there), but christmas should be even better.
Also his last mod starts working from 2nd round, decreasing your def by 25% every round (it stacks so from 25% goes to 50% on third round etc..)and as i told you when i used RJ he did 15 damage even to my main (that had 650k p.def + 150% from RJ and 50% form hasch halo)
And pretty much every muken aizen user is the reason they increased def in void lol, they're even thinking to fix halos, just go check Ichigo's halo in today's void

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DABDABDABDAB replied at 2017-11-2 18:11
Just wanted to say raijin chaos won't work, seems like people didn't know Hasch clears chaos with  ...

Damn, your the reason they changed void defence

Yeah i noticed that chaos wont help against his set-up. But there's tons of ways to counter him, it just lies in how expensive it will be. I can afford Raijin since she's 30k, even ~20-25k in some special events. I have 11k gold right now so i could grab her for just ~6k top-up during right events.  Toshiro is still at 40k - its a bit to much imo, i dont wana top-up huge amounts until they add new content to the game.

Im using Ichibe mainly because he's a huge HP source which helps in VG vs VG situations and his 30% heal buff to Muken is also nice. His 1 round 200% def buff overwrite RJ's 2 round 150% buff, since he is slowest it doesnt change much. But all that does not matter against H.Ichigo, if i understod it right he drop all defence to 0% from the start (http://bleach-online-user.wikia.com/wiki/Hell_Verse_Ichigo) check his last mod. So even if i had 2m def he would still deal full damage. imo he's most broken nuker in game right now.

Im gona try to counter him with Kensei's 2 round invincibility death mod soon, i think it sould give my Aizen enough time to finish him. Gladly he is not that stacked yet. Perhaps i get B.Sunsui in the future if they dont realease some other partners.

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[email protected] replied at 2017-11-1 17:34
Actually he froze me from the start. I noted today that freeze+laceration effect seem to disappear  ...

Just wanted to say raijin chaos won't work, seems like people didn't know Hasch clears chaos with his skill? lol
If you want raijin to work you'll have to find a way to not make hasch skill (he's immune pretty much to everything except freeze).
I think the best way to defeat him would be with Toshiro + Raijin (Your toshiro would have to outspeed his toshiro and raijin will just have to be faster than his hell ichigo, that would also allow your ichibe to skill giving your team an extra 200% phy def just in case raijin chaos doesn't get hell ichigo).
I know it's quite expensive but for christmas maybe you can get some good deal. (Shinigami kensei death mod could also be a good idea but you'd need to put him basically naked in your formation in order to let him die when his toshiro attacks since toshiro has suck weak attack).
And i suggest you to stop trying to survive him unless you can get Hasch (I'm Hayase Masako from your realm) i tried to let his hell ichigo attack me to see what would happen and when i had Katen on, only Muken managed to survive because his def was higher than kukaku's (kukaku has 1m, muken has 720k + 50% halo from hasch) and i was really impressed he did 15m damage to a kukaku with 1m def even tho he's not really stacked.
When i tried to do the same thing with RJ he did 15 damage pretty much to everyone so that's the reason i suggested you to also get hasch (So your muken has 200% extra def in total, your muken wouldn't even have to attack in that situation to kill him, since he'd just die in a couple of rounds from burn + mutilate).

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trojandrew replied at 2017-11-1 16:24
b/c when you won he didnt freeze you until after you went so you had your rj defense. when he beat ...

Actually he froze me from the start. I noted today that freeze+laceration effect seem to disappear when his Jugram attack before RJ is triggered. Only silence is left. Tried to use Kirinji this time, but it seem that Jugram's shield prevert the chaos effect. Need few more days until i can unlock Kensei's invincibility mod, i think he should help me quite a loot.

trojandrew

[email protected] replied at 2017-11-1 13:19
Ah, but i still dont get how it work properly. If you watch my replay where i beat him, my Uno hea ...

b/c when you won he didnt freeze you until after you went so you had your rj defense. when he beats you he froze you from the start. when he freezes you thats when the laceration happens for you to not get heals

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trojandrew replied at 2017-10-31 14:30
Unohana death skill works but toshiros ice prevents healing so you just don't get the heal

Ah, but i still dont get how it work properly. If you watch my replay where i beat him, my Uno heal worked for some reason. I think it has somenthing to do with speed.

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mayuri1177 replied at 2017-10-31 17:14
Chaos and Invincibility are his biggest weaknesses.  If you can chaos him, he will probably wipe his ...

Didn't knew that he can nuke his own team with his skill So buying Raijin + Kensei's death skill (i have him) is cheapest way to beat him in a 1-3-1 formation?

badbone

U can't beat him