Formation

Dotiie

Hey there, how are u going?

I have a question rather stupid, im planning to change my formation to 1-1-3 from 1-3-1 (i know its a huge change, now keep reading), but i dont have enought wis stones to make this change yet (i dont even have my aizens but fack it), so here is my question, is that bad leave senbon and use hyorin? WAIT BEFORE FLAMING, U SCRUBS

I know senbon is the 2nd best zanpakuto in general due to his bonus ( 21% speed, 25% dmg to assaulters, o% dmg reduction to vg, 70% hp, 50% recovery rate and 25% avoid injurity rate after attack give 25% dmg, speed and def to assaulters and vg), but it gives 0 bonus to supports and that is where the "stupid question" comes, senbon can still be better then hyorin for supp based team? the answer is: isnt it so obvious? (everyone must agree... or hitman will hunt u)

to clarify some of u (i know u arent understanding), im not kota, BWG or any other heavy spender, so i cant afford multiple zanpakutos, or partners
u maybe are asking, wtf this dude what? am i right? I want to change to 1-1-3 cuz its a dream AND my assaulters are lacking on speed agaisnt ppl as strong as me (remember i cant afford Mugetsu or WI (at least for now))

i just have sogyo, hyorin and senbon as cash zanpakutos, and the free ones ofc

Im running atm: Starrk, Yama-jii, Hakuteiken, cute (fake boobs) orihime (soon i will get noza, 1036/1400)
Formation i want to run (1-1-3): Noza, Tenjiro, CSB Aizen and Ultima Aizen

what zanpakuto should i use?
Plz use 1 vote in 1st 2 options and the other vote in which zanpakuto


PS: IF i do this change, i might go to 1-2-2 before go for 1-1-3 due to low amout of wis stones left

MylarHyrule

if your making the swap, Hyorin is the way to go...  he will further solidify your vang, and his speed boost on your supports is third only to Muramasa and tensa.
Soph Rangiku may be worth the swap from Starrk as she will grant your supports and herself a 20% regeneration every round once she skills.  mix that with restore enchant on your weapons, and Hyorin's bonuses and you have a very good addition.  then again I am a little biased as this is what I'm doing

Dotiie

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-11-20 19:00
if your making the swap, Hyorin is the way to go...  he will further solidify your vang, and his spe ...

this is the chain that binds me

Dotiie

#BUMP

MylarHyrule

with that, you should stay put    you almost defiantly won't recap that speed unless your going to speed demon supports...   I'm using Shinso, pompadour guy, and Kieske (to swap for CSB Aizen when I get him)   Hyorin will give your supports a 15% bonus to speed, and supports are naturally faster than assaulters (usually, not always) but Hyorin DOES NOT have a speed slot..  he has both def and a HP.  I'm switching to Muramasa for this very reason, Soph be damned...  If your looking for more speed, I think your looking in the wrong place.  Don't forget that a lot more than XP goes into a new partner.  5000+ vit in evo, lots of time/gold in modify, tons of silver in Janken for XP scrolls, and your talking about changing 3 partners at the same time, and your zanpacto to one that is inherently slower, to gain speed...   If you got the coins to spare, get Shini Kensei, replace Yama, T1 kensei and make him super fast to control your opponets, at that point, speed is really a non issue.   after a point in the game, unless your a VIP11, true power comes from making 1 or 2 amazing partners, and the rest to just mop up the mess and sop up damage   for your support (as fights should rarely last more than 2 or 3 rounds at this point) Shini Kieske is a good, fast, and effective support.  of course Hiki is amazing, Shinso is a personal favorate, and he will help others skill more often, and can make a full T1 MUCH cheaper and easier...  Heck,  pull Yama and Cute Ori, put tavern Kieske and Rukia in the back, once they are both modded to the max, you can get T1 from all but vang with less than a dozen basic fury stones, replace Rukia in this with Shinso and add a few more fury stones for more power here, granted your overall speed will be lowered as slow poke Kieske will need to be the fastest, non T1 teams will fall before you if your stark can soak up the damage they deal till your team goes off, and after that your middle row will go off every other round, vang too with the kieske/shinso combo

Dotiie

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-11-20 19:26
with that, you should stay put    you almost defiantly won't recap that speed unless your going to s ...

i might save for mura, but shini kensei is just... i dont want him
as i said my dream is 1-1-3 and its the faster type of formation possible due to supports natural speed, i dont rly know what to do... should i run jizo instead till i save enought for muramassa?
i need help that is way i made this post, im tired of lacking on speed due to the slowness of as.saulters

Suzuken

after seeing this and understanding the problem here, man Letting senbon go for hyorin now would be just not good for you since like MyLar said hyorin doesn't have a speed bonus while senbon does ....... i think that you should forget about switching for 3-1-1 unless you get Muramasa and instead get kisuke and put stack on him and yama and with senbon buff you will have a fast yama and if you can afford to have a very fast assaulter and a fast support then go for Haku byakya as T1 and that will make it up for the lack of speed to sup that senbon gives :/
it's kinda too late for hyorin and it will def put you in a huge disadvantage as you said ( you don't have enough wis stones)
so either forget about 3-1-1 or save up for muramasa >.> that's what i would do PS: i accidentally voted for hyorin -_- my bad

Dotiie

Suzuken replied at 2015-11-20 19:36
after seeing this and understanding the problem here, man Letting senbon go for hyorin now would be  ...

dude, why gogreed makes this decisions so hard, i always wanted to change formation, i want to test and see what fits better, but looks like its impossible, ok i might foget all this and just keep going, lacking on speed and give up soon
im tired of this cocky speed thing, beein most important stat, why they dont change the game.... damn gogreed

kosmik

Dotiie replied at 2015-11-20 14:40
dude, why gogreed makes this decisions so hard, i always wanted to change formation, i want to test ...

Murumasa is the way to go, without it, def. hyroin.  Hell I run a 1/2/2 (changing to 1/1/3) and running into the exact same problem, need wis stones, just probably not as bad in your case.

*The CSB aizen is a great choice to stick back there in a 1/3/1 if he's T1, should save you a lot.  A fast T1 CSB byak/aizen can rule the day for the most part.  Ultima is great if your not fighting anyone who is T1 on their supports already, and tenji only really works well with hiki.  A lot of choices man.

Suzuken

Dotiie replied at 2015-11-20 22:40
dude, why gogreed makes this decisions so hard, i always wanted to change formation, i want to test ...

i think that you reached the point where you have to stack everything on 1/2 partners >.>