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author: demonilyas    time: 2018-7-9 08:11:57     Title: Next UBP

Any idea's on who the next UBP partner/zanp wil be?
author: kinikas100    time: 2018-7-9 08:19:58

So it began
author: Tanfosh    time: 2018-7-9 08:57:28

kinikas100 replied at 2018-7-9 08:19
So it began

of course. now that seireitei attack is here that mean UBP will be next in the list
author: rythen    time: 2018-7-9 10:50:41

noble isane
author: akhamamir1999    time: 2018-7-9 10:54:20

rythen replied at 2018-7-9 10:50
noble isane

nice
author: josecho83    time: 2018-7-9 11:52:24

rythen replied at 2018-7-9 10:50
noble isane

Bikini party is coming
author: Hevan05    time: 2018-7-9 12:57:10

rythen replied at 2018-7-9 10:50
noble isane

how good is she in pve? i mean ES and Void
author: alicantibet    time: 2018-7-9 13:06:33

Hevan05 replied at 2018-7-9 18:57
how good is she in pve? i mean ES and Void

Don't ask ,just get her. Just do it.
author: Hevan05    time: 2018-7-9 13:08:54

alicantibet replied at 2018-7-9 13:06
Don't ask ,just get her. Just do it.

maybe on an alt lol
author: adnane.bek    time: 2018-7-9 13:34:36

Hevan05 replied at 2018-7-9 12:57
how good is she in pve? i mean ES and Void

if muken is the best assaulter

Noble Isane is the ultimate pve support partner
author: Hevan05    time: 2018-7-9 13:40:29

well i do have muken on the alt

noble isan + Senju
author: adnane.bek    time: 2018-7-9 14:14:08

if noble isane is next i delcare the next of the next of the next will be:

BAMBI

HUMAN KOMA

SHUNKO

BAZZ B

and the first orange partner will be....bankai.....shunsui

it will take months proba years but these partners will defenitly show in UBP mark my words;

#the eternal superstition
author: pockmeryn    time: 2018-7-9 14:51:36

yess finalyy the thread..was waiting for it for the past two days
author: pockmeryn    time: 2018-7-9 14:52:46

rythen replied at 2018-7-9 15:50
noble isane

plz no...tell me this is a lie..postpond it to next month plz~
author: Theelitefart    time: 2018-7-9 15:23:56

pockmeryn replied at 2018-7-9 14:52
plz no...tell me this is a lie..postpond it to next month plz~

im with u there
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2018-7-9 16:07:56

rythen replied at 2018-7-9 10:50
noble isane

too late to change it to elegant unohanna?
author: RiadDahoe    time: 2018-7-9 16:33:16

rythen replied at 2018-7-9 10:50
noble isane

thats awesome news
author: itsme8805    time: 2018-7-9 16:49:50

rythen replied at 2018-7-9 10:50
noble isane

hey thanks for the info

is it 50k or 40k?



author: sivern    time: 2018-7-10 01:31:57

i hope she is only 40k, if 50k not enough T_T i only at 5k atm, buying 6x vit everyday and hoping get 8k or more before UBP start
author: @ra5h_V    time: 2018-7-10 03:20:29

actually BooBle isane
author: pockmeryn    time: 2018-7-10 05:37:58

Edited by pockmeryn at 2018-7-10 10:39

do i need noble isane if i can kill ryoka till the end and can do like 40% on es?? void is generally not even 1 min but generally im in top 10...and es also not even 1 min......wonder if i should wait and try for elegant unohana since she will help me alot with pvp
author: rugalb666    time: 2018-7-10 06:15:08

Edited by rugalb666 at 2018-7-10 12:18
pockmeryn replied at 2018-7-10 11:37
do i need noble isane if i can kill ryoka till the end and can do like 40% on es?? void is generally ...

I think the answer is a big  NO, I am the same here, no need for pve damage at all, Elegant Uno will be much more interesting for me too. But it's a good thing because I am low on vit, I'll resupply and finish my evo until the next partner
author: jimmycricketwin5298    time: 2018-7-10 06:41:13

Damn, I just wasted 15K Vit to fully EVO my BWB and Gold Evo my Ginjo. I should have waited for UBP before I did anything with EVO's. I need to replace my Kisuke with someone lol
author: soulkai    time: 2018-7-10 19:38:45

as many of ya'll know me,shoul i get her or wait for an assaulter? i'm trying to get rid of h.ichi
author: Potdenutella    time: 2018-7-10 20:12:13

soulkai replied at 2018-7-10 19:38
as many of ya'll know me,shoul i get her or wait for an assaulter? i'm trying to get rid of h.ichi

Y'all should follow the advice, it's a one-time partner (like most of partner today such as Yhwach, Mayuri, Handsome, Shy...) it's now or never.
author: soulkai    time: 2018-7-10 20:50:41

Potdenutella replied at 2018-7-10 20:12
Y'all should follow the advice, it's a one-time partner (like most of partner today such as Yhwach ...

very well
author: jackthehorn    time: 2018-7-11 00:28:12

Potdenutella replied at 2018-7-11 02:12
Y'all should follow the advice, it's a one-time partner (like most of partner today such as Yhwach ...

Hey nutella what do you think? Should i swap kisuke to isane or wait a while to get a better supporter?Btw only have 7K vits kind of missed few days of collecting vits so falling behind.
author: Potdenutella    time: 2018-7-11 02:06:52

jackthehorn replied at 2018-7-11 00:28
Hey nutella what do you think? Should i swap kisuke to isane or wait a while to get a better suppor ...

Why are you not following the advice already



Ok so before that you need to know the slowest red support to fastest goes like :
Elegant Unohana < Bambietta < Senju < Shy Nemu < Noble Isane < Bankai Urahara
I say that because it's a luck that you have Hikifune for her bond, with the bond on you can use her even in PvP, otherwise she is easily interceptable as she is still weak to the stun, chaos... Despite having the immunity to fury deduct. and silence.

>Should i swap kisuke to isane
Kisuke is cool but the tavern partners have their limit, at your stage of the game he is just a deadweight and holds back your team from reaching its true power. But that wasn't your question lol, like I stated it's now or never, Noble Isane is one of the best (or the bestest ?) buffers of the game, your firepower will skyrocket like hooooly shit with her buffs.
Though she is more oriented PvE, the PvP counterpart of her is Shy Nemu.

>wait a while to get a better supporter?
It's your choice #LameBoringAssAnswer but Noble Isane is definitely worth the pick, do you have at least a partner you want from UBP in your head ? Or just let UBP decides of your formation like the first-time UBPer ? If it's the orange partners you want, mind that there are 3 red partners who have yet to come in UBP before the first orange, you have a long assssssss time to save for them as they come the next year or so... So pick her and you're pretty much done for a long time before you need a change.

*For the readers, my opinion on Noble ends here, now it is focused on jacky* cuz screw the PM
Though I don't know your formation, did you decide to go 2-3-0 for the rest of the life like me ? The alternative is to pick the zanpakuto Kyoka and replace Hikifune by Noble Isane, you have a slot for another support after that, a crowd controller maybe ? You need to know that Hikifune doesn't go well with Kyoka with the ATK buff overwritting, in a long run Kyoka gives better damage output, Hikifune is stronger but there is a condition and barely works in PvP : it's to make sure she gets a critical hit followed by a combo to make her skill every turn for the +50% ATK to everyone permanently (A counterpart of her but without condition is Isane Kotetsu), you're probably using her to one-bang the teams with Muken with the +50% ATK buff, you don't need that much in PvP as it is overkill with Noble Isane (except for Void), for her invincibility I tend to say it is useless since everyone have Muken and Yhwach, drop it.
You could also go 2-1-1 to protect you Muken from chaos or 3-2-0 to strengthen your Muken even MORE or more crowd control, Muken is your nuker, you don't need a third assaulter in PvP.*Focus OFF*


Aaaand I got dragged to make a wall of text, this is the first time in my life I think, damn you, whatever I would pick her (and Handsome) if I have the vit, even if I barely intend to use her, I'd get her just in case if I need one day or for bond/void bonus partner/other stuffs (the same fate as my Hikifune, literally using her for only bond and CoM). The F2Ps may not be able to see Noble Isane a second time in UBP, the chances are very limited, like I said (I repeat) it's now or never.
And a cookie to someone who count all the asses in my wall.

author: jackthehorn    time: 2018-7-11 02:37:34

Edited by jackthehorn at 2018-7-11 13:13
Potdenutella replied at 2018-7-11 08:06
Why are you not following the advice already

ohh the gif made me laugh so much
My adviser or may i say original owner had the plans and strategies but she is gone for the Fall winter and spring '19 show and its been just a few months me piloting so asked you before i make a mistake than getting chewed off later.

All i need to do is swap suitable supporter and vanguard. Currently Tavern red kisuke and D. ichi. I missed shy nemu as was doing evo for muken.
Thank you for that speed comparison but i am the slowest in terms of monsters on my server. And hiki save me sometimes with that invincibility but will keep in mind what you said about KS and hiki overwrite.

Screw PM liked that...So formation goes like hiki kisuke main muken and D.ichi
Both hiki and kisuke are LVL4 reincarnated. And will remain 2-2-1 formation forever i think. So Assualters are fixed now just supporters and Vangurad remaining.
And you are absolutely correct "you're probably using her to one-bang the teams with Muken with the +50% ATK buff"

Still if shy nemu comes again i would definitely get her need that chaos on dead since my team mostly dies except muken when monsters attack first and they usually do go first i am a slowpoke.
BTW nice gif still laughing.
author: grimmjowpantera    time: 2018-7-11 02:46:25

Potdenutella replied at 2018-7-11 01:06
Why are you not following the advice already

(Just to ask since i'm not all that well with formations and stuff and i'm very limited for a lazy vip four.)

Welp. Just gonna ask now. My formation is.

Hiki, Shunsui(Tav), Tosen, And H.ichi.(Tav).
Wroth picking up noble? Also zan is suzumebachi. I'm still running her till i can get my hands on muramasa or Kyoka and yes i did read your wall. Thinking about it with my ZERO red CBS stones i am planning on getting her at some point in my time of playing this game. I'm probably one of the only few surviving OG players from the start and i'm at this stage of being lazy lol. XD
author: Potdenutella    time: 2018-7-11 03:41:55

Edited by Potdenutella at 2018-7-11 03:56
jackthehorn replied at 2018-7-11 02:37
ohh the gif made me laugh so much
My adviser or may i say original owner had the plans an ...

Arena is not that important, but the CSB is, if you have the monsters in your CSB call yourself lucky,you wouldn't want to live at my place because everyone in my CSB have at least 8m BP in the ranks 1~50 since the merge.




(Just to ask since i'm not all that well with formations and stuff and i'm very limited for a lazy vip four.)
Short answer : Yes, same as Jacky.

I'm not really a good advicer generally, even for low and mid-game, Mylar and others are more suited for that.
But if I were you, I'd just replace Shunsui by Noble Isane and get a vanguard or assaulter from UBP whose to spend the bond frag/ex... Stacking a support who is made to support is not so great, give it a bit of ressource to make a functionnal support is good enough.
For the zanpakuto, I'd get Kyoka before Muken, unless if by any chance Katen comes in UBP you get Muken first, you need a good zanpakuto at least to release your team's power, it's like the relation between CPU (zanpakuto) and GPU (partners), if you have an endgame GPU but a crap CPU, the GPU is bottlenecked thus doesn't use its power at 100%, if we swap to an endgame CPU and crap GPU oh god you can do a lot of thing with that, the GPU is literally used at the maximum power, though you gotta replace your GPU later when the games (the monsters in your CSB) come out in order to play them. I like the example eh.

mfw getting a zanpakuto to replace the one I was using that was holding back my team https://youtu.be/Hq2SlCja3zo?t=297

For the choice of Kyoka before Muken, it depends on who you're facing in CSB I guess, oftenly, the counter to mukens is a stronger Muken since you do not have the chaoser like Shy Nemu or EX Harribel and an assaulter to kill'em, assuming you are in the old servers. If you get Kyoka first, you gotta pray for her to put the chaos on mukens and that's 20% chance... Annoying in a long run.

Edit: At least with Hikifune and Noble Isane, that's (almost) the perfect combo for PvE, 50% ATK; 70% DMG and 50% assaulter combo, what else would you ask ? Just need a better assaulter and you're good to go... or don't bother with that if you don't do ES, that is still an useable combo for void later.
You probably need to go 3-1-1 with Kisuke because I assumed (again) you have the T1 on everyone lol or may exclude Noble Isane from the PvP until you have enough ressource to use her in PvP.
author: adnane.bek    time: 2018-7-11 03:52:25

im gonna say this, same team in ES with noble isane per hit it is 50% dmg per hit; i have to throw her form team n put whatever to go down to 20% same assault lines 30% dmg more
author: jackthehorn    time: 2018-7-11 07:01:14

adnane.bek replied at 2018-7-11 09:52
im gonna say this, same team in ES with noble isane per hit it is 50% dmg per hit; i have to throw h ...

Least write in a way that we can understand please
same--hit--throw--30 more. That is all i could read
author: jackthehorn    time: 2018-7-11 07:05:19

Potdenutella replied at 2018-7-11 09:41
Arena is not that important, but the CSB is, if you have the monsters in your CSB call yourself luc ...

Ah yes have bunch of monsters in CSB can reach in rank above 30 when lucky enough that they register with only main. Only then as if even they register with one full partner i cant win especially that Haswalth and main combo.
How far are you from muken btw?
And nice metaphors CPU and GPU
author: adnane.bek    time: 2018-7-11 12:16:53

jackthehorn replied at 2018-7-11 07:01
Least write in a way that we can understand please
same--hit--throw--30 more. That is all i coul ...

hahahahahaha, oh well u reverse it, i'm not english btw so my vocab can be limited
author: Potdenutella    time: 2018-7-11 13:11:40

jackthehorn replied at 2018-7-11 07:05
Ah yes have bunch of monsters in CSB can reach in rank above 30 when lucky enough that they regist ...

Don't need him.
author: grimmjowpantera    time: 2018-7-11 15:31:34

Potdenutella replied at 2018-7-11 02:41
Arena is not that important, but the CSB is, if you have the monsters in your CSB call yourself luc ...

Alrighty thanks man :p I am planning on getting kyoka at some point if and when i can get passed a lot in CBS. Boy i'll tell ya being in the first server of the US isn't that fun seeing everyone being stronger lol. tho that was mainly due to the fact i've been lazy since a certain time i guess.
author: jackthehorn    time: 2018-7-12 01:23:22

adnane.bek replied at 2018-7-11 18:16
hahahahahaha, oh well u reverse it, i'm not english btw so my vocab can be limited

Same not english but have a great vocab
So dmg with isane>dmg without isane, thats what you told right. With 30% drop.
author: adnane.bek    time: 2018-7-12 02:55:16

jackthehorn replied at 2018-7-12 01:23
Same not english but have a great vocab
So dmg with isane>dmg without isane, thats wha ...

yeh give or take,

she gives a 30% more dmg to my current team, so right now i dont use her anymore in ES at least
author: sasukeuciha    time: 2018-7-12 10:30:46

screw isane i want a ywach
author: soulkai    time: 2018-7-12 11:33:05

sasukeuciha replied at 2018-7-12 10:30
screw isane i want a ywach

Well you need both
author: Stupidmorty    time: 2018-7-13 14:22:16

if i have jakka as zamp will noble insane still help alot?
author: ahmedblack    time: 2018-7-13 15:39:30

rythen replied at 2018-7-9 10:50
noble isane

i hope its 40K this time i am in a bad need for a supporter
author: LadyKyojin    time: 2018-7-13 15:58:40

Stupidmorty replied at 2018-7-13 19:22
if i have jakka as zamp will noble insane still help alot?

jakka attack buff will stack with N isane damage rate buff so yeah massive damage boost in ryoka void etc
author: vasolord    time: 2018-7-14 07:19:29

1. Do i need Isane if i have shy nemu?
2. do both of their dmg boost stack or override each other?
Right now my formation, is krinji , exc lvl shunsui(tavarn), main, yama, h.ichigo.  i have shy nemu, and kisuke tavern. No character is T1. currently i have 12.8k vit, and i've been waiting for a good assaulter or zanpackto. I missed yhwach, and tensa both times it came and its probably likely katen won't be coming till next year IMO, should i go for tensa if it comes again. If an assaulter like koga/tessai/mugetsu/hisagi comes go for them? because i'm vip1 so yea i can buy vit but, stacking vit is still slow. I mainly wanna do better in CSB, nd i have some 40k bond frags saved up nd 14k exclusive frags
author: Potdenutella    time: 2018-7-14 08:06:31

vasolord replied at 2018-7-14 07:19
1. Do i need Isane if i have shy nemu?
2. do both of their dmg boost stack or override each other?
  ...

How do I explain with a burnt brain... Beware the mixed words. You may need to read the thread or what I said in the page 3 and 4.

1. For what goal are you seeking ? Both Shy and Isane have their own role, Shy is just the PvP version of Isane, if you do not care about the PvP and want to keep growing stronger in PvE, Isane is a must for you.
As a PvP person, I'd still pick Isane just in case but keep Shy in formation, as I do already 15% of damage in ES (which is the cap for the rewards) with her without a PvE formation.

2. Yeah, both the +20% DMG from Shy and +70% from Isane get overwritted eachother, that's problematic, but it's really simple to time it if you go with a 3-2-0 formation with Kisuke :
BATTLE START
>Kisuke skills, T1 everyone
>Shy Nemu skills
>Isane skills
>Generic assaulters skill
This way the assaulters attack with the +70% DMG, with the +30% DMG halo from Shy and the extra fury from Kisuke and Shy, oh and a lot of combo because of Isane... Now let's continue the fight.
>Kisuke skills, T1 Isane
>Shy Nemu attacks normally
>Isane skills
Because Isane recovers 75 of fury to self she can skill pretty much everyturn with Kisuke or any fury builder. Now that you know how the scenario goes there is no need to continue the fight, bascially Isane ALWAYS overwrites Shy's buff, just make Isane slower than Shy in PvE and done, though the only thing that can fuck the buff up is the double combo if the support line is in this order :

Isane


Shy


Kisuke



Isane gives an extra round to Kisuke then he does the same to Shy aaaaaand there you go the +20% DMG buff because fuck you... if she has enough fury to skill of course.
Though it's better to go 2-3-0 without Shy because the +30% DMG aura doesn't boost your damage that high which is probably the only PvE side of Shy, in 3-2-0 you're giving a lot of DMG buff while you lack the firepower, Yamamoto is a PvP partner so the damage will be meh even with the buffs...

This is what the damage of my assaulters with their gears, setup, buffs and all do to a punching ball of 0 DEF and 0% IMM to you give you an idea.



Noble Isane makes quite a jump of damage to the assaulters, right ? That's even without counting the combo.
author: SolKnight    time: 2018-7-14 08:07:20

Ok going to Give a quick Answer to Everyone asking since this is surprisingly a popular question rn.

Noble Isane an Mainly PVE focus partner and is Defo worth getting she will buff your damage output everywhere ES,Ryoka,Void(If you have the correct assaulter for void like muken).For most people you do not need her Mods even unless you intend to use her for PVP. So if you are to ask me GET HER she is not bad for any player of any VIP Level as you will find a way to make use of her just got to use your brain.

Now for Shy vs Noble both are very good and no one is outright better than the other as shy is better in PVP hands down and Noble in PVE if you have both of them and no other partner try to get T1s on Shy(Priority to get her T1 first) and Noble with an assaulter centric formation and they will show results.
Shy has crowd control in PVP and her 30% Damage rate to assaulter from mod something which cannot be overwritten.Noble is mainly PVE but can be used in PVP just make sure that she moves after Shy so she overwrites her 20% damage rate from skill with her 70% so you will get 100% damage rate constantly on your assaulter if you use this right Good in both PVP and PVE.

If you missed anything ask me.
author: RiadDahoe    time: 2018-7-14 08:21:45

Potdenutella replied at 2018-7-14 08:06
How do I explain with a burnt brain... Beware the mixed words. You may need to read the thread or  ...

awesome.... explanation .....
author: Potdenutella    time: 2018-7-14 08:49:54

Edited by Potdenutella at 2018-7-14 08:50
RiadDahoe replied at 2018-7-14 08:21
awesome.... explanation .....




Now you guys hear SolK, there is no need to ask since there are already enough answer in the thread.
author: josecho83    time: 2018-7-14 09:18:23

SolKnight replied at 2018-7-14 08:07
Ok going to Give a quick Answer to Everyone asking since this is surprisingly a popular question rn. ...

I have shy Nemu and Hikifune, and I'm thinking about getting Noble Isane to change her for timid Nemu at events only, what do you think about this?
author: SolKnight    time: 2018-7-14 09:37:02

josecho83 replied at 2018-7-14 09:18
I have shy Nemu and Hikifune, and I'm thinking about getting Noble Isane to change her for timid N ...

P good actually.

Hiki already gives 50% Extra Attack and Noble is 70% damage rate + 50% combo that is a massive damage increase in PVE with a perfect in PVP i still recommend you to stick with shy in PVP doe.

Also it may not be a bad idea to add in a third assaulter namely kisuke as to the setup Pot Mentioned previously though it depends on your assaulter line.

Aside from that go for it,
author: josecho83    time: 2018-7-14 09:41:41

SolKnight replied at 2018-7-14 09:37
P good actually.

Hiki already gives 50% Extra Attack and Noble is 70% damage rate + 50% combo tha ...

muken .main and Mugetsu
author: SolKnight    time: 2018-7-14 09:42:43

josecho83 replied at 2018-7-14 09:41
muken .main and Mugetsu

yeah keep Noble + Hiki backline in PVE and you will see very good results.
author: [email protected]    time: 2018-7-14 09:49:11

Edited by [email protected] at 2018-7-14 10:01

is it a good move to remove demon ichigo and replace him with isane?coz i planned to go to 2-3-0 formation since forever

PS: i have shy nemu too

PS PS: Does the halo stack with similar attack buff like shynemu and noble isane?
author: josecho83    time: 2018-7-14 09:49:46

SolKnight replied at 2018-7-14 09:42
yeah keep Noble + Hiki backline in PVE and you will see very good results.

thanks ,i  was thinking about it and i hope in next UBP can get  other assaulter better  for replace Mugetsu
author: jackthehorn    time: 2018-7-14 10:20:38

Potdenutella replied at 2018-7-11 19:11
Don't need him.

Why? isnt it better than ywach?
Oh and how come you have little inferno stones when you had so much challenge stones.
You showed atleast 15000 challenge stones when the CSB shop update came.
author: RiadDahoe    time: 2018-7-14 17:32:24

Potdenutella replied at 2018-7-14 08:49
Now you guys hear SolK, there is no need to ask since there are already enough answer in the thr ...

yes , the Terminator with his best quote being ...  2 most important things in life .. PUMPING and HUMPING
author: Potdenutella    time: 2018-7-14 20:20:38

jackthehorn replied at 2018-7-14 10:20
Why? isnt it better than ywach?
Oh and how come you have little inferno stones when you had so muc ...

Hate on muken's paragraph, skip it if you don't want to get hurt morally.
t's because I'm an anti-muken, look at the game, literally EVERYONE have him because "muh 500% damage", we all drooled on him since the first day of inferno shop, it's normal but it's gone too far now where I almost left the game.
The game just became "The counter to mukens is a stronger muken" meaning that you need to inherit your favorite partner you kept for years that meant you to hardstack Muken and win, that's sad. With everyone having him the CSB is just boring to watch because there is no team's variation, it's like you surf on the internet and you keep seeing the same overused meme for months, this is just boring... So I started to register full formation since I got Kyoka to block more ploxes from getting him in CSB and I wish everyone could do the same for the same reason (another is I get most of the fun from fighting someone in CSB, but since everyone register main alone (which is useless, it doesn't make you climb slower in the ranking) I get no fun at all).

So I just dumped all my 8k inferno stone or something to buy the gears and accs knowing that I won't get him and will never, I am good enough with Yhwach and he's cooler lol.
If in case you are asking about Tsuki', he looks super meh to me (while everyone lose their mind with the fury clear mod, like, dude how is that op ?), so I just gonna skip him for more gears. I might get him if he was at a lower price tho.
author: theunknown404    time: 2018-7-14 20:49:01

Potdenutella replied at 2018-7-14 20:20
Hate on muken's paragraph, skip it if you don't want to get hurt morally.
t's because I'm an anti- ...

Preach it, brotha.
author: Stupidmorty    time: 2018-7-16 20:34:40

LadyKyojin replied at 2018-7-13 15:58
jakka attack buff will stack with N isane damage rate buff so yeah massive damage boost in ryoka v ...

ty for the answer now i know what to do.



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