Upcoming Zanpakuto: Ichimonji

grimmjowpantera

DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-29 12:37
Well, it's because your very first sentence is already offensive. Why else would I take you seriou ...

Lol. Cause I knew you weren't gonna take it serious anyways. You already ignored half of what people tell you on ichimoney and you ignore it. And again. MY formation has nothing to do with it. If the Devs are so hellbent on trying to fix their mistakes with the latest CSB partner then they shouldn't really listen to you as you are making the whole muuken meta far worse than what any of the metas are right now. 50 Fury? On an already 100% combo rate zan? You fucking kidding me? You'll skill round one no matter what.

aloe89

When? what event ?

DeEmEn

grimmjowpantera replied at 2018-7-29 11:42
Lol. Cause I knew you weren't gonna take it serious anyways. You already ignored half of what peop ...

I just took my time and read your comment while I was taking a shit. It can sum up in 2 sentences.

1. Why not improve those old zanpakuto's you mentioned.
2. Combo rate 100% will allow skill on first round, why 50 Fury?

GoGames already gave up this game, what makes you think they will waste time on something that won't make them money.

Combo Rate 100% idea didnt came from me. But not to worry, Muken meta won't get any worse because this zanpakuto is not free. Most people won't afford it, and for those who can, they will have a pretty solid team to EASILY counter Muken. 50 Fury is necessary to counter any fury reduction partners.

DeEmEn

grimmjowpantera replied at 2018-7-29 12:11
Ok now. While this whole Ideas WAS good and all it's pathetic. It put to theory assaulters might or ...

Let me ask you this. How much Fury can 1 normal attack gain? Full 100? Nope, then rethink about that idea.

People who can afford this zanpakuto already have a team easily counter Muken without this new zanpakuto in the first place. It's not just heavy spender, even a mediocre spender (VIP 8-9) are already achieving that.

Oh, I took my time to take my "shirt". I would love to use my comment to "whip" your ass, that's technically what I am doing right now.

ohmyvenus

@saitama i dont think u need reply that stupid grimjow he just f2p, he think ichimonji and tsuki is OP but not

easymoney2906

All hail tsuki we need more free op things!!!

aloe89

any news from test server or smth ? how is he ?

SolKnight

@DeEmEn
Ok i did not want to initially talk about this but why not this shit is a mess as it is.
I dont mind ichimonji. they can make whatever the hell they want or place what they do i am literally not concerned with what they do and its fine.you want to pay for it and go ahead do what you want. But if you go and say this is well and balanced and not in any terms broken, That is just a load of bullshit and you know it in trying to justify your purchase choices and you very well know it.
Is muken broken yes he is from a PVE preservative mainly.Do i think his 7th mod should be rebalanced Definitely.
Do i think KS is broken not really since for 1:Everyone can get her and she will just add to the team then and there 2:You are trying to justify calling something like KS broken but not RJ with DOT,Def,Attack to an insane amount and things like KK are more useful and ichimonji is broken(But you continue to disagree).

You are trying to argue that if you give F2Ps and low Vips just muken and KS that suddenly VIP 8-10 players are going to beat. News flash: No they are not.
Just topping up till those VIP levels now days gives you such absurd bonuses and rewards that you have to be and i dont care what you think its the truth and you know it.

As for players on older servers who are VIP 8-10 and got that point years ago when things like mugetsu and TSI were still the meta and stopped topping up they do not get the same bonuses as VIPs now not even half and do you think this game is structured to care for those who topped up years before over who topped up now anyway if anything its in the games interest to buff the Low VIPs enough to make those people top up more.

I do not care if you go and make the argument they added this and that do i think tsukishima is shit and i for one to recall you were opposed him and such then why are you supporting this again. Cause in the end its simple they add something to inferno they are going to release partners or zans to counter and out compete them for VIP it is how they are doing it fine so in the end its irrelevant.
Then either do not complain at all for what is added Inferno AND GOLD or if you are going to oppose than oppose both spectrums of the argument just supporting the Gold options shows you own incomitence if you lose to f2p players.

DeEmEn

SolKnight replied at 2018-8-3 07:07
@DeEmEn
Ok i did not want to initially talk about this but why not this shit is a mess as it is.
I  ...

Really? After all these time...

@DeEmEn
Ok i did not want to initially talk about this but why not this shit is a mess as it is.
I dont mind ichimonji. they can make whatever the hell they want or place what they do i am literally not concerned with what they do and its fine.you want to pay for it and go ahead do what you want. But if you go and say this is well and balanced and not in any terms broken, That is just a load of bullshit and you know it in trying to justify your purchase choices and you very well know it. - It balanced out between the power gap between the free broken stuff from inferno shop and paid partners/zanpakuto. This is not bullshit, what bullshit is how OP they made the crap in inferno shop and make it available for free and for everyone. Ichimonji is powerful, but it's not unbeatable, it won't stick its nose to enemy team. Read my next paragraph to understand more.
Is muken broken yes he is from a PVE preservative mainly.Do i think his 7th mod should be rebalanced Definitely.
Do i think KS is broken not really since for 1:Everyone can get her and she will just add to the team then and there 2:You are trying to justify calling something like KS broken but not RJ with DOT,Def,Attack to an insane amount and things like KK are more useful and ichimonji is broken(But you continue to disagree).
You are trying to argue that if you give F2Ps and low Vips just muken and KS that suddenly VIP 8-10 players are going to beat. News flash: No they are not.
Just topping up till those VIP levels now days gives you such absurd bonuses and rewards that you have to be and i dont care what you think its the truth and you know it. - I too complained about RJ is way too OP, and asked to be nerf back in the day. But guess what, its a paid zanpakuto, it's meant to be powerful, same as Ichimonji. KS is broken due to the fact that it gives weaker player a speed boost and clear out ALL buff from enemy and clear ALL debuff from allies then chaos 1 partner. Just from this, it makes all paid zanpakuto and partners advantages decreased by tons (by passing zan+support buff and cc), as long as you have a well stacked Muken (like all noobs do), you can easily have a good chance to beat even the high VIPs. With KS, you make enemy weaker and yourself stronger plus a lucky draw. This is why you can see in CSB and ToT, some weak ass team beat a team that's almost double their BP, WHICH they are supposed to have no hope to beat. Yeah, we can equip the same thing, and register in them. But guess what again, we are simply too fast and you can still go after, which is a good thing as a KS user. Sure, we can strip down our speed and register, but I am sure you can do better, what is this now? trying to compete who can go slower? KS makes this competition plain dumb. What's on top should stay on top, powerful players should stay up top register in full without having to worry weaker players to beat them and gain massive points and get close to them. Power is out of balance with inferno shop prizes.

As for players on older servers who are VIP 8-10 and got that point years ago when things like mugetsu and TSI were still the meta and stopped topping up they do not get the same bonuses as VIPs now not even half and do you think this game is structured to care for those who topped up years before over who topped up now anyway if anything its in the games interest to buff the Low VIPs enough to make those people top up more. -Sorry, I don't know what is the point you are trying to prove, but I am one of the ones from older server who are VIP10 long ago. I know what it's like.

I do not care if you go and make the argument they added this and that do i think tsukishima is shit and i for one to recall you were opposed him and such then why are you supporting this again. Cause in the end its simple they add something to inferno they are going to release partners or zans to counter and out compete them for VIP it is how they are doing it fine so in the end its irrelevant. - I still oppose Tsukishit, what are you talking about? Ichimonji required gold purchaes. Tsukishit is free.
Then either do not complain at all for what is added Inferno AND GOLD or if you are going to oppose than oppose both spectrums of the argument just supporting the Gold options shows you own incomitence if you lose to f2p players. - I never said I lose to f2p players. Wait, are you one of the low VIPs too?

SolKnight

DeEmEn replied at 2018-8-3 13:49
Really? After all these time...

@DeEmEn

Skip to the End for a generalized statement in case my wall of texts gets to damn confusing which i wil admit can be a problem with my explaining.

So in High VIPs are not losing to low or mid VIPs in which case what is the damn argument for PVP about it stays unchanged like always for which i do not care for in the first place and even then if they are already wining the point of adding this while high VIPs are already going to be buying RJ,KK and other zans since they have no intention of sticking with things like kazeshini till KS which can take about 6 months if they are top of the CSB since start so the point of divide is not even happening realistically it will take someone not in the top range of CSB more than 1-2 years to just get one of them which is very unlikely for most unless they are incredibly smart and conservative with there resources and from Vip 0-Vip 4 range there are very few and they exist in older server case in point i will mention below.

The problem comes in areas already busted in this case PVE in almost every area.
ES and void where players and it does not matter if you have paid 500K gold for a new op ass team the problem we have with those fronts right now is that they are dead before most players can even participate.Things like Ichimonji do nothing to help the situation but make it worst by allowing more people to kill it in one shot and start a cycle of trying to fix something they are just making harder and harder to fix.

The reason i brought up the point for older VIP players and such is cause the games purpose is making money and inferno is basically pushing them towards paying more money even if they have stopped at one point there is literally no other purpose when it comes to taking care of partners like Muken and KS they have literally given out partners and resources to handle both of these as for tsukishima his cost is un realistic enough that more than half of the game will not even bother with getting him since most will opt for KS and muken or things such as asauchi from shop an update where most the players ended up putting there inferno in the first place. If you actually get down to ichimonji itself it does nothing to realistically deal with the tsukishima situation since supports are already cucked even with ichimonji vs then and this zan actually highlights using Tsukishima and Muken more for a better chance to win(Can explain what i mean if you want but you can easily figure it out just look at ichimojis skill).

Also i am not referring to you as YOU but as a generalization for those who keep complaining about an issue of losing to f2p players which is not a case in the first place and is mostly likely due to the assumption that they could. i do not know your ingame statistics or other info to comment on you specifically and for this argument do not need to.Its simple a High VIP with even half a brain will be able to make a team that P much even stacked muken of a low to mid VIP will not be able to beat.

So if you do not want to read the Wall of text a basic generalization of it is that even with Muken,Tsukishit and KS given to a low VIP or mid VIP players without anything else they are not going to beat the high VIPs those three a good and the time they are released were un matched but realistically it is the high VIPs who will access them first and make the most benefit out of them just now are there low VIP players who got the KS and Muken combo while High VIPs have had them for some time and NO person outside high VIPs is even close to having all three and this will be the case for the next 1-2 years by the time more than half of them are irrelevant.   There was no a Divide broken by KS in the first place its just fear mongering People will still opt to buy RJ and KK as i have mentioned even if they do get KS later. again my problem is not with ichimonji since they can add whatever the hell they want but its not healthy for an game where someone is constantly trying to fix the partners that are becoming an issue and just advertising it as being balanced and good for the game is not either. btw Muken and tsukishima can suck it aswell do not like the bullshit way they are made but not cause they are free.