Formation advice

_noticemesenpai_

I was just wondering if I should buy and use Bankai Yama instead of using Yhwach? Was gonna get him last event, but didn't think it was a good choose.. Now im debating him, keeping Yhwach, or buying a new one? I'll post current partners, to give a better understadning of my team. Please give suggestions and best events to buy each of them

baldy01

well if u plan on getting RY and yourwatch permanently then yamaji isnt needed and u can get hasch instead to increase yourwatch dmg to the max
yourwatch dmg is absurdly insane once he gets hasch and RY on the backline on the other yamaji can be tanky asf but his dmg will never hold a candle to yourwatch once he is backed with RY and Hasch

_noticemesenpai_

baldy01 replied at 2019-3-7 08:35
well if u plan on getting RY and yourwatch permanently then yamaji isnt needed and u can get hasch i ...

They're both almost paid off actually. B.Yama skill looked great and also linked with Shin. I don't know if I plan on keeping them. RY might be staying on the team. Is there any other good assaulters for a decent price? Sorry, just started playing again after like 3 years

baldy01

well there is hell verse ishigo which comes in special annual events for 20-40k he is OP deffo the 2nd top assulter if not first has many flaws so u would need kokuto (must get) koku price is same his and another good supp to complement him
there is stern uryu he is 30-50k depending on the event he can rly go off if u stack him nicely give him the right supports like bwbyakuya greatest 1st round nuker after yourwatch
there is muken he doesnt cost gold u can get him from inferno shop for free obv he is without a doubt the top stand alone meaning he doesnt need any1 to be op unlike the other 2 and if paired with stern for that shared mod boi oh boi will he pop off
there is yourwatch (the poor king who ppl underestimate) he honestly sux alone but if u can get him in form with RY and hasch he can gain an additional 70% phy atk and dmg rate which is honestly huge and puts up there over uryu and these 2 supps are great since RY increase his speed and hasch increases his def and adds shields to him not only that but also give him heals on hit
and then there is yamaji he used be great but now he is well not that good with ppl going towards just stacking VG and being tankey as heck he isnt that great his only merit is that he can be the tankiest assulter out there idk he can still work if u put him in the right formation
other red assulters well tbf they arent worth spending gold on since they might pop up in ubp + they dont hold a candle to those that i mentioned
to sum it all up i can say that the above assulter by their dmg in each round
basically rated by their first round damage  Yourwatch>Stern Uryu> HVI> muken Aizen > Yamaji (yep Yourwatch is better than them all if lined with both RY and Hasch otherwise he goes to the bottom right b4 yama)
2nd round damage Muken Aizen>Yourwatch> HVI > Yamaji>SternUryu (thanks to his broken last mod MA deals tons of dmg if he survives till then)
at 3rd round Muken>HVI>Yourwatch>Yamaji>SternUryu(HVI takes a while to charge up his last mod but he basically the king of the battlefield if he can survive long enuf)
at 5th round HVI>Muken>Yourwatch>Yamaji>SternUryu(
at the end of the day these are all great assaulters they just need the right supports and VGs to complement them and looking at ur form i'd go Yourwatch cuz am a YW fanboi i guess xD
well keep digging around till u find out which one of them u like the most and then make ur choice till then i hope i've helped enuf

ahh also i would suggest saving up ur gold and wait till oct feast or xmas if u do plan to get new partners cuz prices will be 50% lower on these 2 events

sorry about the essay

Potdenutella

baldy01 replied at 2019-3-7 09:58
well there is hell verse ishigo which comes in special annual events for 20-40k he is OP deffo the 2 ...

Yhwach > Stern > HVI > Muken > Yamaji
Yhwach > Muken > Stern > HVI > Yamaji
Yhwach > Muken > Stern > HVI > Yamaji
Muken > Yhwach > HVI > Stern > Yamaji
Muken > Yhwach > HVI > Stern > Yamaji

Fixed that for ya.

Well there are too many factors to include, whether if the ennemy has high DEF (so HVI and Stern have the advantage) or not etc... So it's all random up there lel, one thing I am certain is Yhwach outdamages Muken for 3 first rounds. If we exclude the supports, Yhwach's damage is equal to Muken's the first round and the latter wins all the way for the rest of the rounds.

baldy01

aw damn why thank you
tho i thought that with stern mod muken would outclass yowatch after the 2nd round,welp thats more knowledge so thanks

theunknown404

Bankai Yama is meh in the long run.

Potdenutella

baldy01 replied at 2019-3-7 11:48
aw damn why thank you
tho i thought that with stern mod muken would outclass yowatch after the 2n ...

Stern's mod was unknown to me, I simply compared a glasscannon Yhwach to a lone Muken.

Edit : Here's a blind comparison, their scores of damage with the reincarnation 5 against void of 2m DEF and 50% immune rate.
That's Yhwach with his two supports versus Muken with the -40% DEF from Stern, both with their original skills, their maximal ATK and DMG. I don't count the extra damage from the fury however that's too much hassle, hence the "blind" part.

Yhwach	Muken
15,823,424	7,328,889
34,421,913 *	22,770,499
34,421,913 **	38,212,108

* Assuming he can skill again, otherwise he attacks normally with 16,391,387.
** If followed with a normal attack from the previous round, he'll skill with 15,823,424.

If Muken has the EX skill level 3 instead :

Muken

9,327,677

28,980,635

48,633,592

If Yhwach has the ATK buff from EX.Hasch (yeah that's unfair, but hey lol) :

Yhwach

35,375,806

76,955,717 *

76,955,717 **

* Similar to the first table, if he has no fury to skill, a normal attack of 36,645,580 that's it.
**Again if followed, 35,375,806.


Right how about we spice things up ? Let's use Yhwach of 28th as punching ball, he has 250% immune rate this time... oh and Muken with his EX skill :

Yhwach	Muken
4,723,162	828,655
23,321,651 (11,105,548)	2,574,589
23,321,651 (4,723,162)	4,320,524

That's right, the DMG matters more than the ATK in this scenario, Muken reaches max 269,5% DMG with the full set (not 4/2) whereas Yhwach gets 335,1%... Didn't I mention Yhwach's skill grants a buff of 100% DMG to self which is multiplicative rather than additive ? His DMG goes up to over 670,2% just with the buff, that explains his monstruous boost of damage the second round.

With the comparison alone it's easy to tell that Yhwach is more of a nuker and Muken big dick damage, I purposely calculated only 3 rounds because Yhwach's damage stagnate with the skill and 100% DMG buff while Muken can still get higher with the remainng 200% ATK.
See for yourself what's better between both of them, but...



Muken's last mod is canceled in void, he would deal the same amount of damage he did on the first round to all the other rounds, Yhwach, assuming the link with the two supports is not canceled, is rofling at him. Unfortunately no one use the glasscannon today it might be hard to hear their feedback on Hasch/Raijin's halo working in void or not.

baldy01

Potdenutella replied at 2019-3-7 14:50
Stern's mod was unknown to me, I simply compared a glasscannon Yhwach to a lone Muken.

Edit : Here ...

ohh most interesting
yowatch outclasses all of the orange assulters based on what u said then, seems he hasnt aged for a red partner yet
well cheers for him outclassing the upcoming assaulters as well

oh and am pretty sure his halos are disabled in void since yamaji-sdt ,muken-stern and hvi-kuck halos are disabled

Potdenutella

baldy01 replied at 2019-3-7 17:15
ohh most interesting
yowatch outclasses all of the orange assulters based on what u said then, se ...

I know Stern's -40% worked weeks ago but now ? Maybe I am out of touch, what a shame.