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Zaraki Kenpachi vs. Pantera Grimmjow (PVE) [Copy URL]

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Post time 2015-3-12 04:03:24 |Show the author posts only
Edited by mansonloo at 2015-3-12 04:11
Curls88 replied at 2015-3-11 16:25
I just clicked randomly at kenpachi.. I'll check the stats you put.. Pantera grimmjow higher stren ...

Let's take a step back and analyse this further.
Pantera does 200%, and recovers fury 100. he will skill every round.
Zaraki does 300%, and recovers fury 0. he will skill every other round.


So, taking into assumptions u will be running kisuke/rukia in ES, calculation for damage will be:
Pantera does 400% every 2 rounds - 200% each round
Zaraki does 400% every 2 rounds - 300% 1st round, 100% 2nd round


Based on this, in terms of damage output via skills and fury gain, THEY both do the same damage output %.

Thus, we must look at their talent, initial strength and growth rate per level. Pantera clearly wins as he have a higher initial strength value (+80), growth rate (+0.1 per level) and 20% damage rate increase as talent.

Then we look at skills. Nothing to talk about for Pantera, as his fury gains puts his damage same as Zaraki and Pantera's decrease defense does not work in Evil Spirit. Whereas Zaraki shines a bit here as he provide 10% block to all assaulters, and this may result in your assaulters doing some return damage.

Then we move on to partner mods. Pantera loses as SWP partners can't be modded at this moment.
Zaraki will have +8% attack and +8% damage rate.
And as you level up and your stats grow, those extra attack and damage rate BY PERCENTAGE will definitely win over Pantera's extra 0.1 per level strength growth and talent. So, Zaraki wins this round as well.

My answer is Zaraki will be better compared to Pantera at higher level (maybe around level 110 and above) in PVE Evil Spirit, but if you are thinking about PVP, Pantera would be much better as he has 100 fury gain and decrease enemy's defense.

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Post time 2015-3-12 04:07:41 |Show the author posts only
mansonloo replied at 2015-3-12 03:03
Let's take a step back and analyse this further.
Pantera does 200%, and recovers fury 100. he will  ...

Why does the decrese defense doesn't work in ES?

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Post time 2015-3-12 04:24:19 |Show the author posts only
Curls88 replied at 2015-3-12 04:07
Why does the decrese defense doesn't work in ES?

same reason why some negative effects doesnt work in hollow soul. some shits we cant explain.

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Post time 2015-3-12 05:43:37 |Show the author posts only

RE: Zaraki Kenpachi vs. Pantera Grimmjow (PVE)

mansonloo replied at 2015-3-12 04:03
Let's take a step back and analyse this further.
Pantera does 200%, and recovers fury 100. he will  ...

Fury over 100 increases damage output so Pantera will skill every round atleast 155 fury ( rukia 30  kisuke 25) or more cause of rukia and kisukes crit fury regen ...... so i think Pantera Grimmy will do more damage....

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Post time 2015-3-12 07:37:42 |Show the author posts only
Judge_Spawn replied at 2015-3-11 21:33
Yup I agree with Curls
Wish boost is the Fury Boost.

actually it's 200% of 120%.... that's 240%...

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Post time 2015-3-12 07:42:07 |Show the author posts only
Curls88 replied at 2015-3-12 09:07
Why does the decrese defense doesn't work in ES?

because Beasts (ES) & Ryokas doesn't have any Def....they have huge loads of HP instead ...

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Post time 2015-3-12 07:42:57 |Show the author posts only
Edited by theguyinblack at 2015-3-12 12:44
mansonloo replied at 2015-3-12 09:03
Let's take a step back and analyse this further.
Pantera does 200%, and recovers fury 100. he will  ...

that's what i'm trying to say... i'll post some detailed stuff later about this..
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Post time 2015-3-12 14:21:15 |Show the author posts only
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Post time 2015-3-12 14:58:05 |Show the author posts only
theguyinblack replied at 2015-3-11 13:26
i just got bored and made some other stuff to compair them .i did all the math for u A****** ...

and on top of that pantera has combo rate, and kenpachi doesn't, so some more damage from your main or third partner.
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Post time 2015-3-12 16:33:37 |Show the author posts only
how about Ishida vs Grimmjow can u tell me which one better?

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