Too late?

korogan

Glasglow replied at 2014-8-28 08:11
From the way you are talking about rukia, i will go ahead and assume you don't even have her but y ...

i using rukia as my pvp and pve setup atm and i can say she's not into pve daily at late game

promethas

Just wait till you hit 70

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korogan replied at 2014-8-28 10:49
lol kisuke can do that job alone utility + high damage + high crit so no need for another more.

No he can't, and he doesn't do high damage. I would know, he is on my team and I have probably the strongest Kisuke in NA/EU. You are missing the entire point, there is a need if you want to do even more damage, and with Rukia it's a no brainer. Just ask azriel he's got the most knowledge on these things. Kisuke can't get you 100 Fury by himself, takes both combined, and if both can and go first, you use fury from turn one, and then just about everyt turn. No comparison.

Ukitake provides no utility for anything other than Espada 3 last fight.

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korogan replied at 2014-8-28 10:50
i using rukia as my pvp and pve setup atm and i can say she's not into pve daily at late game

Well you are making a huge mistake and losing a lot of damage if she isn't

korogan

likewise rukia + kisuke cant give you 100 sure rage every turn so kinda useless even if crit

so no need for me to use some setup that i know not sure 100% sure rage every turn on all

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korogan replied at 2014-8-28 18:35
likewise rukia + kisuke cant give you 100 sure rage every turn so kinda useless even if crit

so no  ...

Ummm yes they can give you full rage if both crit....on turn 1.... not sure where you got that info..

korogan

well im using rukia myself and i see her crit all the time and i must say not all the time she give 45 rage on all assaulters sometimes only 1 or even none so i find this rukia + kisuke kinda useless

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korogan replied at 2014-8-28 18:48
well im using rukia myself and i see her crit all the time and i must say not all the time she give  ...

You need higher crit, and it's not just her alone, it's combined with Urahara.

Also, when we get partner upgrades, you can upgrade her to start with 70 fury, add a few fury stones and she starts with 100 fury, meaning you can add 2-3 fury stones to other chars and have them start 100 fury round 1 as well.

It's a proven fact that they are the best tavern combo due to being able to keep you full fury turn after turn...if you aren't getting those results you are doing something wrong. As I said, ask azriel, in his tavern partner thread, he will explain to you why Rukia/Urahara is a must for PvE events.

korogan

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-29 00:15
You need higher crit, and it's not just her alone, it's combined with Urahara.

Also, when we get p ...

nah that 100 rage you saying is only for 1st turn and its a must if you doing PVP and PVE(clearing maps) but on PVE event its kinda not good pairing cus rukia will hold your damage cus of lack of damage and also at event the aim is to gave high damage on enemy not killing them on 1st turn

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korogan replied at 2014-8-29 00:24
nah that 100 rage you saying is only for 1st turn and its a must if you doing PVP and PVE(clearing ...

That's not true, they keep you high fury throughout the fight....her damage does not matter at all. It's your assaulters dmg that matters. Rukia + Urahara keeps you full fury EVERY turn...how are you not understanding this?

Let's put it this way, I've had Kisuke and Yoruichi in as supports, and did 100 million damage in Ryoka. I put Rukia in for Yoruichi, I do near 300 million damage. There is a huge difference....it's not even debateable it's just how the characters work. When you get my level and BP then come back and tell me it don't work...it's been proven by many players on the Chinese server, and here...just read some of the guides and you'd see this.