Mid 50s+ PvP team (supports help)

Glasglow

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-13 18:23
Yeah i was almost sure the last strategy won't be of any help (99.99%) anyway i've just made it to ...

Honestly? Ichigo is better than Lisa.

Most people say that Lisa has better stats, but what they forget , is that Lisa does not get 100 Fury every time she uses her skill, while ichigo does, which lets him hit the assaulters every turn.

So even if she does more damage than him with the same stones, Ichigo will deal more to the enemy assaulters, since he doesn't skip a turn to hit the vanguard. And if Lisa meets a heavily stoned Yachiru, then you are in big trouble unless you have good HIT on her, since she won't be able to even get her fury up to hit the assaulters again.

If you aren't SURE you can kill the enemy assaulter team with Lisa in one turn, you are better off with ichigo.

And well, deicing between Lisa and Renji, means that you have to decide if you want to run the Assaulter killer composition, or the regular vanguard killer way.
Renji does tons more damage than Lisa, but he hits the Vanguard.

Also you said something about changing your vanguards? If you mean, that you want to upgrade your vanguard, then getting Chado is a must, Yachiru is bad, take my word on it.

But if you meant that you want to take off the vanguard, then you can do that for PvE, assuming that you have upgraded your gear well enough not to die in a few shots, but for PvP? Don't even bother trying to PvP without a vanguard, your assaulters will be dying like flies on the front line.

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Glasglow replied at 2014-9-14 00:40
Honestly? Ichigo is better than Lisa.

Most people say that Lisa has better stats, but what they fo ...

Thks for all these information on PVP i'll defintly keep sado he is my current vanguard for the assault compo what you said gave some thinking, ty very much

tommymac009

Momo and Orihime. Bestest, Nanao is useless

Glasglow

tommymac009 replied at 2014-9-13 19:03
Momo and Orihime. Bestest, Nanao is useless

Nanao is free if you can top-up, because you will want to buy the second lv1 ultimate set anyways.

And she is good until lv65, or even later if you don't plan on using Kazeshini.

marold

For a 50-70 team...hard to play with only support... The best choice could be Momo/Orihime and Rukia if u do that but seems to be pretty hard.
If u use only rukia as supporter, u can try that one.

Rukia/ Main/Lisa/Free ichigo/vanguard. Very good focus on assaulter lane and it's a burst damage team with rukia. But can be easily counter with momo.... U need a good speed on all u're assaulter and expect to kill u're opponent damage dealer in on single round fury attack. Not possible to block momo at this moment of the game... Rukia can help u if only one or two of u're assaulter are stunned. U're next furry will be sooner and u can expect to finish the job.
U need good critical rate on u're assaulter and rukia too.
Critical  attack give u half more rage point. So if one of u're assaulter make a crit next turn, with 30/45 rage point given by rukia u can expect to use furry every two turn.. and not need too wait three turn between each furry.

Rukia could be use all time cause of her rage boost ability.
Orihime is very usefull when people stop to use heal curse. And unitl u can purchase Unohaha (lvl 90) she will be the only valuable healer, and u will need an healer for trial and event.
Nanao : good damage delear for event. with rukia and a 2-3-0 team for event like spirit hollow and ryoka it's a must... until lvl 65. Kazeshini surpass her boost ability.
Momo : the only stunner at the start of the game, can't be counter until lvl 70 or use of 10th skill. Usefull in pvp, useless after lvl 70. Easy to counter with Yoruichi and great difference with Haribel who is much better.
Lisa : Good damage dealer in team with free ichigo. Two partner able to focus assaulters lane. One of the first partner combo for pvp. good critical rate, usefull with rukia too. Easy to make a second free ichigo after turn  2 and lauch fury attack every two turn. Bad damage focus (120% on fury). Killing a full assaulters lane will report her ability on vanguard next... like ichigo and if opponent as a strong healer, it could be an endless fight.

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for me the best support lane is rukia and orihime
u have to make rukia to attack first and at lvl 80 u change orihime to urahara
and make him to attack first then rukia( I think that rukia and urahara is the best suport lane cuz they fill tons of fury to your assault lane and combined with ikkaku and main hero can use their skill every round )
then main character then your best assault lane will be ikkaku with your main characterand for the vanguard i think its best to be with sajin komamura
i hope that information will be usefull to all players

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I'm lvl 61 now and did'nt recruit momo for reiatsu reasons, I read the comments, and concluded it almost useless to recruit momo at this lvl since i'll reach 70 soon (even if I'm willing to recruit Komamura to replace vanguard first), i'm using a 1 - 3 - 1 formation, and most of people using momo now can't handle the boost in speed for main doubled with anti stun skill, plus renji (heavy on vanguard)  and Ichigo 100% fury on assaulters, Inoue as healing with high counter and crit hit stones.

The only people i'm having problems with are the top 5 on the server with a BP diff of 30-50K.

To sum up, in some cases  even momo becomes useless at some point.

lowkick1

If you topped up to get rangiku and nano, momo is a good replacement for nano if you geared nano correctly, which is to say have them have the most speed possible. I got sado first, but had to also pick up orihime since momo/nano combination wasn't working out for me, maybe since I didn't have enough resources to make them both super speedy. So my current composition is momo/orihime, main/rangiku, sado, and I've been doing pretty well for myself holding top 5 in arena. I do want to pick up rukia for pve events aswell as renji for another assaulter, and to replace rangiku, but I don't have the silver for that yet.

With momo, I can beat players stronger than me, since alot of their strength comes from their assaulters, which momo effectively handles. Without her I can't beat stronger opponents, with her I have beaten 100k bp vs my 92k bp.

zoomonrotmg

Inue is a trash if you use frost arrow/Demon curse/Confragation the better is Momo/rukia

deathzorkas

u recruit orihmne and momo is a must. That's because orihmne and momo teamed up gave player hard time beating. like for example orihmne heals and momo stun that gives u huge advantage to win. because u stop healing but momo stunned u but stopped stun orihmne healed. Orihmne and momo teamed up with sado and renji annoy players the most.