Best use isshin

SosaRey

Dotiie replied at 2015-9-2 05:30
Take gin out, give t1 to isshin and make ur main attack after him, u will have t1 in ur main too, j ...

Don't have yoroichi nor aizen yet.  I'm waiting to either become vip5 which shouldn't be long cause of reio, or getting 2nd division lieutenant title, which is in about a weak time, that way I can have 16 partners in formation, because currently I have 14, and I can't get rid of none of them, as all of them have their uses.  

As for T1, I have kisuke with fury stones, thanks to that, he gives T1 to everyone, except vanguard.  

A questoin, if I must ask, if I put isshin 2nd, and he skills and gives combo to main, will my main be able to skill immediately even though he's slower than enemy's support? Or will he have to wait until enemy support attacks first.

SosaRey

IREG33 replied at 2015-9-2 06:01
IMO in pve use kenpachi not ikkaku, ikkaku is good cuz he can use his skill every round if ur suppor ...

I use kisuke, rukia so if one of them crits and ikkaku crits, which should be most likely cause of the title he has, he can skilll every turn.  

As for isshin making everyone skill, wouldn't he make my main skill more rather than kenpachi?  I heard he makes the person below him skill (combo), which in this case would be main.

SosaRey

moongoatie replied at 2015-9-2 07:31
For pve, your speeds should be like Kisuke t1>Rukia t1>Main with 9th to buff>Isshin>Ken

My friend that has isshin, insists I make isshin my fastest assaulter.  I thought about this formation too, the one you mentioned, having 9th skill to give attack to assaulters, but he says that by making isshin the fastest my damage would be greater.  I'll probably give both a try and compare.  

What about pvp, can I use this same formation for pvp?  I mean in the speeds that is.  Replacing rukia with gin, and replacing 9th skill to last skill and replacing ken with vanguard.  So in pvp, kisuket1>gint1>main with last skill>isshin>holl. ichigo

I know, I have to make isshin the fastest assaulter, but I get very good results from making my main go 3rd, in pvp that is, because with luck, he can wipe assaulters and greatly wound supports, thanks to his last skill, and to gin's prior attack which wounds assaulters.

TheBadTouch

I would recommend getting issh the t1 instead of gin (Issh 100% disables enemy assaulters so it makes gin quite obsolete ie get rid of gin he's useless when you have issh). And making him fastest (after kisuke). Though this is dependent on what zan you're using currently.
Disclaimer: This comment is pointedly refering to pvp

Dotiie

SosaRey replied at 2015-9-2 15:43
Don't have yoroichi nor aizen yet.  I'm waiting to either become vip5 which shouldn't be long caus ...

i will try to explain how combo rate works
when u get extra round in char, he will immediately attack
so ur isshin must extra round to make ur main attack before their supp, if he doesnt, just when main attack will trigger the combo chain.

IREG33

SosaRey replied at 2015-9-2 17:45
I use kisuke, rukia so if one of them crits and ikkaku crits, which should be most likely cause of ...

Lol no isshin gives 100% combo to all assaulters, kenpachi's stats r higher n his skill does more dmg, with isshin he's better than ikkaku

SosaRey

TheBadTouch replied at 2015-9-2 10:57
I would recommend getting issh the t1 instead of gin (Issh 100% disables enemy assaulters so it make ...

I use kazeshini.  As for T1, all my team gets T1, including isshin, except vanguard, thanks to kisuke's skill and some fury stones.  The reason I use gin, is that I could stun the opponent in 1st turn or in due case, decrease their fury so that they can't skill next turn.  He has proven helpful on opponents whose mian's speed is faster than gin.  

My logic states that if I make isshin the 2nd fastest, I'd have to hope for him to be faster than opponents assaulters because if they hit before isshin, then void won't matter as they'd probably have enough fury, for the next attack to skill.  Gin helped in that area, by decreasing their fury and dealing damage to them.  

TheBadTouch

SosaRey replied at 2015-9-2 14:14
I use kazeshini.  As for T1, all my team gets T1, including isshin, except vanguard, thanks to kis ...

Kaze gives more of a speed boost to assaulters than sups. Get rid of gin. Isshin will undoubtedly be faster than gin especially with the 18% speed boost (vs 12% for sups iirc). Give gins agi stones to issh.

SosaRey

IREG33 replied at 2015-9-2 11:13
Lol no isshin gives 100% combo to all assaulters, kenpachi's stats r higher n his skill does more  ...

You sure? Not been eceptical nor anything just that with the fury he recovers plus kisuke and rukia, he's surely skilling every round.  But you do have a very good point there too. Maybe I oughta give him a try.

Though another concern has hit me.  What will happen in ryoka when I have to put my vanguard back.  Who will I remove?  Considering I'll be using, kisuke, rukia, main, isshin and kenpachi.  Who should I replace with my vg after around wave 54?  

P.S. on a personal note I use a 1-2-2 formation, so I'd put my vg gear on my 3rd assaulter, which in this case would be isshin, since I need kenpachi to have my best gear to deal the most damage.

SosaRey

Dotiie replied at 2015-9-2 10:59
i will try to explain how combo rate works
when u get extra round in char, he will immediately at ...

O.K., what I think I understand, correct me if I'm wrong, is that isshin gives combo to assaulters.  He doesn't make them skill immediately.  The combo would activate until the other assaulters attack.  So, if isshin attacks before assaulters, they wouldn't necessarily immediately attack twice.  It would be until it's their turn to attack, depending on enemys team speeds, then when its my assaulters turn to attack, they'd combo thanks to isshins skill.

Did I got it right?