What do you think about this idea?

Aristeaus

595459354 replied at 2015-10-27 11:43
she does what, -30% Hp Reduction every round?
That leaves me with 2/3 other rounds to survive + yo ...

She sure does. I don't know how big you are imagining your VG to be, but taking 4 skills to the face with a 30% HP reduction is not giving you 2/3 rounds to survive. I'll give you 1-2 being generous.

If I run Shinigami Yoruichi, or Kenpachi Unohana, how were you planning on ever damaging them? It will be Turn 4 before you can even think about touching Yoruichi. You may never touch either of them.

TanakaAiri

Aristeaus replied at 2015-10-27 11:55
She sure does. I don't know how big you are imagining your VG to be, but taking 4 skills to the fa ...

What is this 30% hp reduction yall be talking about? o-o

595459354

Aristeaus replied at 2015-10-27 17:55
She sure does. I don't know how big you are imagining your VG to be, but taking 4 skills to the fa ...

If you're running either one of those 2, you won't be able to make a 100%%fury team unless you trigger some combo's.

But yeah I'm talking atleast 3m+Hp vg's stacked with stones. The VG strat might not always work 100% of the time but it'll win 50% or more perhaps. Don't feel like doing math now

595459354

TanakaAiri replied at 2015-10-27 17:58
What is this 30% hp reduction yall be talking about? o-o

Bankai rukia's skill.

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Aristeaus

595459354 replied at 2015-10-27 12:00
If you're running either one of those 2, you won't be able to make a 100%%fury team unless you tri ...

You don't need a 100% fury team. Not sure why you are stuck on that.

We agree that everything else is just flat dead right? The only thing that has a chance of surviving 5 skills on T1 is the Vanguard. Now your VG has -30% Health per turn ( doesn't matter how high you stack his health ), and I have a character that you cannot damage until T4 ( When your VG would be dead by the Bankai Rukia dot alone, nevermind whatever else I throw at him ).

I still have another character slot I haven't used. You lose that fight 100% of the time.

Granted, I have gone on record saying that a stacked VG is probably the best way of dealing with Kirio, but it isn't a counter, its at best 50% against a non-Rukia Kirio team.

595459354

Aristeaus replied at 2015-10-27 18:07
You don't need a 100% fury team. Not sure why you are stuck on that.

We agree that everything els ...

Oh lol... you're not even going for the 100%fury regain??

Well if you're gonna talk about a pure 5T'1s killing team, please give me an idea of who you're going to use because I could also use characters like: Retsu Kenpachi Unuhona, (Main's, Aid skil.) they both can be faster unless you rlly want to talk endgame where every1 is maxed.

Now your VG has -30% Health per turn ( doesn't matter how high you stack his health )

This does matter, because if he can last 3 rounds (deducting 90%, leaves for example Noza kenpachi @10%basic health). Since Bankai rukia was molested by block she won't be able to apply her Health dedcution bs and with the use of Hyourinmaru I'd be regaining Health like no other (referring to his 3rd fortify zanpakuto bonus).

So basically we have left: Hikifune/main/ (gets Killed after 2nd round thx to block),
this leaves us with Retsu kenpachi and your 5th partner.

vs my retsu Kenpachi and Noza (if he's able to tank all the previous shit, which might not be possible but it might be idk #swag). At this point it'll come down on crits and who's faster.

Aristeaus

595459354 replied at 2015-10-27 12:18
Oh lol... you're not even going for the 100%fury regain??

Well if you're gonna talk about a pure  ...

Blocking Rukia does not prevent her debuffs. Again, as Tanky as you can imagine your Noza, he is not lasting that long. The turn 1 skills are most certainly going to do way more then 10% of his basic health, especially with a 50% attack buff.

I am confused as how you believe Retsu Kenpachi Unohana can be faster then Kirio? You know Kirio reduces fury right? You know attacking into Invincibility doesn't give fury right?

You don't need the 100% fury gain stuff. It is also chance, and I would prefer not to have my entire team rely on that.

As far as what I am planning on doing, truthfully I have no set plans right now. Kirio opened the door pretty wide. Probably something like Kirio - Bankai Rukia - Main 10th skill - Berserk Renji - Shinigami Yoruichi, in that order.

Chances are there isn't much left on the field by the time Berserk Renji and Yoruichi skill, so they are likely to hit the VG with huge modifies under a 50% attack buff ( Yoruichi having both Attack and Renji buff ). Even if they fail to kill the VG, it is suffering 30% a turn, with no health regen, and Yoruichi is untouchable for the duration of Rukia's Debuff ( and probably longer ).

SeiryuSky

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-10-27 09:38
Seems good enough for what you want (replacing Isshin), It's completely fine to do that

Make Hik ...

no he start at lvl 70

SeiryuSky

TanakaAiri replied at 2015-10-27 09:45
Damn it -_- ok lol that's some more time to level up another guy from scratch., ah well! Ok well I'l ...

mugetsu + hikufune ? goddamn OP