Final Form Figuring, or somthing.

Aristeaus

NNatsu replied at 2015-12-7 23:18
You should have no problem clearing everything except the vanguard out with Hiki + Shinso lol makin ...

1: Hiki and Shino are 120% Kido attacks. They aren't lighting the world on fire. Stacked supporters aren't dying to that.
2: Main should go before Oetsu. It is not difficult at all, you just don't level Oetsu's boots. Mains are not as trash as you think, and getting a extra 200% attack all before Oetsu will often lead to getting that extra sticky character off the board so that Oetsu will 100% Mutilate VG.

Finally: You aren't worried about getting swept by the VG ability.  You are worried about Oetsu getting block killed, and most VG have a attack all that in conjunction with a block, will kill a supporter with that low of a stamina growth rate. If Oetsu falls, your chances of beating a stacked block heavy VG drop significantly. Why on earth would you want that to happen when you can easily avoid it?

NNatsu

Aristeaus replied at 2015-12-7 23:27
1: Hiki and Shino are 120% Kido attacks. They aren't lighting the world on fire. Stacked supporter ...

What? Blocked? Is that really what you've resorted to? Most people by this time have 90%+ armor break, blocks are extremely rare at this point. Also yeah they're both 120% attack, so is Oetsu, but if all three of them were to go I can almost guarantee at the very least the enemies assaulters and supports would be dead. (Keep in mind I generally kill every partner on the other team including their vanguard with one 120% attack all)  Excluding the vanguard, because he doesn't matter since you're invulnerable from damage and having their vanguard block and kill your team is extremely unlikely, you've basically won at this point. Not to mention Hiki has lowered their Fury so they most likely won't skill if she's faster. That is of course if you outspeed, which you most definitely should instead of purposefully slowing down one of the fastest characters in the game (Oetsu) for your warped sense of how this game works.

NNatsu

Aristeaus replied at 2015-12-7 23:27
1: Hiki and Shino are 120% Kido attacks. They aren't lighting the world on fire. Stacked supporters ...

I don't care if YOU'RE bad at the game, but at least refrain from giving bad advice to someone who's genuinely looking for help.

sirnibbles

Aristeaus replied at 2015-12-7 23:27
1: Hiki and Shino are 120% Kido attacks. They aren't lighting the world on fire. Stacked supporters ...

Main should go before Oetsu

you're a special kind of stupid arent you


you arent normal stupid

you're advanced stupid

Aristeaus

NNatsu replied at 2015-12-7 23:32
What? Blocked? Is that really what you've resorted to? Most people by this time have 90%+ armor bre ...

You can almost guarantee.

Not sure why you are arguing. The only difference between my strategy and yours is that mine minimizes potential problems, while yours shrugs at it. That is the difference between a fully fledged out strategy, and some copy of something you saw once. You want Oetsu to skill last, because if he casts Mutilate on the supporter who lived with 100 hp, it is completely wasted. I would rather not waste my powerful debuffs.

But go ahead and continue being a scrub. It isn't like I have been here longer then you crushing my competition since beta and literally forming the meta with my posts.. Oh wait... Weren't you the one to say Kirio wasn't even good because block VG's? lolol

NNatsu

Aristeaus replied at 2015-12-8 00:50
You can almost guarantee.

Not sure why you are arguing. The only difference between my strategy  ...

No, I wasn't the one to say that. I've literally never run into a vanguard that has been a problem in the history of me playing this game. They just don't do anything anymore. Very easily shut down. Good job getting your facts wrong. I believe my strategy would work more than yours. Making Oetsu fast to potentially outspeed surviving enemy supports and finishing them off will more often than not save you more than having your slow ass main skill to finish them off.

Aristeaus

NNatsu replied at 2015-12-8 01:08
No, I wasn't the one to say that. Good job getting your facts wrong. I believe my strategy would w ...

Appologies then.

In either case, why exactly do you need Oetsu to outspeed anything? Kirio made him immune, so it doesn't matter if he is second, or fifth. If your Main/VG can finish off anything that lives through Kirio and Shinso ( which you assert is very little already ), why wouldn't you have Oetsu go last in that case?

For you to say that your strategy works better when you, yourself, have said that very little survives, is just jokes man. Literally makes no sense. I am not at all saying your strategy wouldn't work, but you leave it open to having more rounds then needed, which can cause problems.

NNatsu

Aristeaus replied at 2015-12-8 01:13
Appologies then.

In either case, why exactly do you need Oetsu to outspeed anything? Kirio made  ...

Because in both cases we're assuming that his Hiki would outspeed. If his Hiki does outspeed then literally nothing changes between your strategy and mine. In the case that it doesn't outspeed his having another extremely fast supporter boosted with Muramasa and with such high growth rates as Oetsu would benefit your team much more than your main character ever would.