Fury Stone discussion

ajoalex

Evild4nte replied at 2015-2-13 19:51
I am a bit scared coz of his strange chaos skill with dmg support to enemy vanguard. ^^

i think that is a translation error, no?

watman

ajoalex replied at 2015-2-15 07:02
i think that is a translation error, no?

It gives +100% dmg to enemy vg for 1 round, then puts him in Chaos for 1 round

Chaos makes enemy VG att itself...
So... the enemy vg essentially attacks itself, with 100% damage on top.

Influentik

Alright then, this entire post is total bullshit.

So let's look at fury stones. At the moment, the only way to get them is Level 4 spirit stone packs for 1200 gold (880 VIP 6)

Incorrect. They were 880 gold the entire time, regardless of VIP level. And no, ryoka is most peoples primary source of spirit stones, along with other free benefits.

To get 100% fury, it costs around $1,500. (edit - nevermind it costs even more, around $2800, as much as it sounds, it's a small price to pay to never lose and still beat out people who spent double that easily, it's one thing if it's close, it's another when it's just a dominating victory)

I guess, If people are stupid enough to buy level 4 stone packs for them. What most people who are not billionaires did, was get them WAY cheaper in events, maybe totaling 250$ max to get t1 fury.
Not to mention, lot's of people use kisuke, and then lower level stones on other partners, so they don't need to be anywhere near as high.

100% fury starts allow a person to use their 10th skill round 1, doing massive damage to enemy team and more often than not, result in a auto win, even if the enemy has higher spirit stones, higher level, double/triple BP, and better gear.

ROFL nope, a guy with 600,000 BP is not going to beat someone with 1,200,000/1,800,000 BP, sorry. You do understand that their HP, Strat def/Phys def will be way to high for them to get taken out, right?

Would anyone consider this a little TO OP? I can see it both ways, but I lean more towards it being broken, as it's near impossible to counter. Someone way lower level, in way lesser gear and spirit stones, and 200k BP lower should never, ever have a guernteed victory over the higher player.

It is not 100% guaranteed, not even close mate. Besides, Nara on my server has 730k BP, and T1 on all partners, I don't have T1 on any partners an I am literally only 4,000 BP above him. So the entire basis of your post has just been rendered untrue.

1.  100% Fury Stone Broken and to OP, need a nerf        
60.90% (162)
2.  100% Fury Start Not broken, ending a fight round 1 is legit        
39.10% (104)

This entire poll is completely bias, making it look like if you chose the second option, you are an idiot, hence the sarcastic " Ending the fight in one round is legit"

Now, In my opinion this post was based on the fact that someone with T1 is destroying you, and you are starting to get bitchy about it, And mate, (trying to, very poorly) to turn the playerbase so hard against T1 fury, is not going to help you win rofl.

Edit: Proof of my defeating a full T1 with no T1 myself, Oh and, My claim was slightly false, nara has 10,000 BP less than me. Screenshot > http://prntscr.com/6dwsj0
And of course, Battle report > http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... &aid=58&t=1

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T1 is great below lv110 otherwise it become a monster full of power lol... for instant crazy lv120 shiro EU 48-60 (2.1mil BR).. my main T1 (400k) cant even kill all of his team... only 50% hp tops since i got better speed for hitting first.. but then my shin youchi wipe his team out easy LOL altho she t1 too (300k)...

the point been... bitching about T1 cuz u cant have it or beat some1 with it is stupid; even if they were to nerf t1 fury, you would still lose lol.. i personally dont see the point... somewhere along the way u got scared of cashiers and start to put excuse on top of excuse to justify your short coming... instead of working hard for it.... keep in mind cashier are PAYING FOR TIME!!!! not item lol... all f2p just need to make up the time by grinding every day lol... no matter how many years pass by u'll win someday...

i've seen load of epic f2p even my alt is f2p and it own with it 4 man team, lol... beside this whole t1 thing is stupid.... if a team is full high power and take out your tank in 2 hit and other 3 team 1hit all your team.. is that too counted as ending a fight in round 1 ? lol

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Im a bit new in to the game and only faced one oponent with t1 in hueco mondo. Not cerntaily sure if it is to OP since he beat me, but i was still able to damage him. At higher levels could cause problems since i seen videos where players usually 1hit or dissable entry team so basicly only speed matters. Maybe it could be a good idea to rework spirit stones and add counter-fury stones. For example: fury stones work not just 1st round, but instad every round you get bonus, but so do counter-fury stones. So lets say if fury stones give you +50 fury for t1 and your evemy have 50% counter-fury you would start with 75 fury. But that's just my trough, not sure if it will work properly.

ajoalex

[email protected] replied at 2015-4-12 07:28
Im a bit new in to the game and only faced one oponent with t1 in hueco mondo. Not cerntaily sure if ...

T1 is not OP, T1 is same as your priority player(PP) and say kisuke having the same speed(kisuke having a tad more than the PP) and kisuke using his final mod to give fury to that PP thereby making him T1 fury(provided kisuke has 60% and PP has 50% fury via stones). the latter option is the best way as it doesn't require just one to have fury, this will provide everyone else with 75 starting fury if kisuke gets to do his attack first which would be a skill attack.

The only downside to the latter is one has to invest in speed stones for two instead of one as compared to just one T1 player.

OP happens when they have a very large amount of STR/WIS stones to basically damage you. If not T1 then you have the option to stun them or reduce their fury them prolonging the match.

But yes, its all people's choice , if they want to spend money to be T1 and high lvl stones, then they would concentrate all into that player hoping that their skill attack would give max damage. A balanced team on the other hand might not be able to defeat that player but atleast they would go higher in terms of rankings/damage/etc simultaneously.

T1 ain't broken , only thing that is broken is gogames and their support

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ajoalex replied at 2015-4-12 05:15
T1 is not OP, T1 is same as your priority player(PP) and say kisuke having the same speed(kisuke h ...

Probably your right, just judging from what i've seen from videos.

Btw sorry, a bit off topic but could you give me advice which partner should i get from reio event? It's my first playtrough so im a bit confused, gota hit lv70 tonight so my set up will be Koma, Halibel or Yoruchi, Renji + some reio event partner. I trought about shinigami Yoruchi, but i read at forum that she got nerfed..

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what do fury stones do exactly

ajoalex

[email protected] replied at 2015-4-12 16:44
what do fury stones do exactly

they give you extra fury for the first round and just the first round only. so if you have 100% fury from fury stones, that will give you 50 fury , add that to the starting 50 fury and it means you start with 100 fury hence able to do your skill attack in the first round itself. and then thats it, fury stones wont be of any use. hence its only useful for the first attack, which for majority of the cases determines who wins and gets the first maximum damage.

ajoalex

[email protected] replied at 2015-4-12 15:51
Probably your right, just judging from what i've seen from videos.

Btw sorry, a bit off topic but  ...

sexy.yorui i would go for, useful in ES/ryoka and also will help you in espada if you cant afford a VG based zanpakuto and strong VG. she gives 25 fury to all, hence very ES/ryoka oriented and also does around 300+% dmg to VG or ES/ryoka.