Katen Kyokotsu in action

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DeEmEn replied at 2016-1-26 00:07
oh my friend, what's your IGN?

King Yhawch...

Sucks tho.. I hate how CSB chooses pyramid.. I'm easily 4th overall.. but I can't beat Oguri Haru, because his Hiki is faster... literally the only reason and he's always on my 2nd row so Im missing out on EZ points from Cyra, Ueno, Mari.. etc.. TBH Someya is a RNG battle usually because kirinji is random and faster than my Hiki who is slow AF.. but that's my story.. I know how powahful u are and there's no comparison, but I'm not wrong in my theory.. and what he's saying isn't 100% accurate because that 3M+ damage is relevant to your opponents gear.. He's literally just assuming everyone is glass cannon builds

Aristeaus

[email protected] replied at 2016-1-26 00:34
Oh you're right.. because theory and practicality are the same...

and the only Assualter I use th ...

Dude. Never go full retard.

1: Counter/Block doesn't do anything. Katen gives +80% crit, and block is worthless.
2: 200k Kido defense? So you are going to get hit for 2.8 Million damage instead of the 3 Million, and somehow you think that is going to make you survive? lolol
3: Random Aid Rate isn't a factor. You may survive 13% of the time, but you are basing your entire play style on sheer luck, and not much luck at that. Even then, Hiki has to be faster then the opponents Hiki/Kirinji, which still isn't going to happen with Katen being +9% faster.

noctustheking

Amusing how the past few post have been about arguments lol.. on katens effectiveness
as for the aid rate someones noza aided someone in the support line and he died instantly lol.. sometimes they cant handle too much damage haha...
well at this point its just a matter of testing it out

DeEmEn

[email protected] replied at 2016-1-26 00:39
King Yhawch...

Sucks tho.. I hate how CSB chooses pyramid.. I'm easily 4th overall.. but I can't ...

Nice to meet you.

Yeah it sucks on how CSB works. You could've get more points. (What's RNG btw?) I wish everyone in CSB can play nicely and stop topping out their stats. I usually let others to gain some points by registered at my casual speed. I thought after I start doing it, others will follow, but I guess not. You both got a point in your theories. Everyone got different stones, hogu, hogyoku, evo, mods, gears... who knows how people do. Don't need to argue with the theory, just have to see him in action and play. Who cares who is right... We will see the result when some people get it.

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Aristeaus replied at 2016-1-26 00:39
Dude. Never go full retard.

1: Counter/Block doesn't do anything. Katen gives +80% crit, and bloc ...

I like how you don't actually understand what you just said.. Katen gives 80% crit chance(not extra damage).. it actually only buffs crit damage by 160%.. in other words.. 160% of 150% which is only a 90% gain totaling of 240% of Senju's skill damage.. Example: Senju does 500k skill damage.. with Katen buff it now does 1.2M..

Katen gives you a -+70% chance to crit someone counter capped and makes senjumaru attack with 240% of skill damage or better yet.. it's the equivlent as if Senju did 336% actual skill damage.. It's not as OP as you think.. There are partners like Noz Kenny who do 350% skill damage before crit.. or if ur like bigger numbers 525% damage after crit..

Also Aid rate is a factor.. especially when your tank has 4Mil+ HP (in my case)

And again.. "Hiki has to be faster then the opponents Hiki/Kirinji, which still isn't going to happen with Katen being +9% faster."

Not actually true.. Tensa gives 15% buff to speed.. which clearly is more than 9%, as I've actually take the time to explain already..

Aristeaus

[email protected] replied at 2016-1-26 01:10
I like how you don't actually understand what you just said.. Katen gives 80% crit chance(not extr ...

Your post is full of so much stupid, that I don't know where to begin.

+80% crit was a reference to you talking about counter stones. Herp, derp.

That isn't how crit damage works. At all. That isn't how math works.

Attack * 1.4 ( skill modifier ) * (Damage Modifier) * 4.3 ( Crit Modifier ).

Literally like 6th grade math, so not sure how you went so horribly, horribly wrong. These are like... Basic game calculations. I am scared for you.

Just for you.

300,000 * 1.4(Skill) * 1.5(Damage Rate) * 4.3 ( Katen+Fortify+Gold Enchant ) = 2.7 million damage.

300k is low. Most Senju are pushing 500k, which would be 4,515,000 damage. I REALLY HOPE YOUR 200k KIDO DEFENSE WILL SAVE YOU. LOLOLOL

Tensa gives the speed buff AFTER the opponents first move.

Team A Has Senjumaru with 1 mil speed, Kirinji with 950k speed
Team B has Hikifune with 949k speed.

Spoiler alert. Team B never gets the Tensa buff. Team B is dead.

noctustheking

Aristeaus replied at 2016-1-26 01:24
Your post is full of so much stupid, that I don't know where to begin.

+80% crit was a reference  ...

i feel bad for the other dude lol..
well good luck ill give you a cookie if you win the argument XD

Aristeaus

noctustheking replied at 2016-1-26 01:28
i feel bad for the other dude lol..
well good luck ill give you a cookie if you win the argument X ...

Can you just post the Battle Report of your Bankai Rukia critting for 3 million?

Pretty sure that will shut him up.

noctustheking

Aristeaus replied at 2016-1-26 01:31
Can you just post the Battle Report of your Bankai Rukia critting for 3 million?

Pretty sure that ...

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... d=54&t=1&lang=en_US
^ around 2.5million on a lv 130 VG ichigo in my hueco
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... d=54&t=1&lang=en_US
^ Noza got destroyed
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... d=54&t=1&lang=en_US
^Swapped Brukia for my nooby lv 100 oetsu with 0 dmg mods didnt kill the VG but almost did
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... d=54&t=1&lang=en_US
^My nooby oetsu vs dying star he got blocked but still hit hard lol gay *Still missing tons of damage on my oetsu*
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid=2822129974622812&aid=54&t=1&lang=en_US
^Brukia jus obliterated the VG

P.S I am missing lv 12 stones oetsu/Brukia lv 11 wis stones and a max tier 10 wis hogu
if i had senju instead of shinso supports would just combo anyways..
waiting for her to reappear

grimmjowpantera

Aristeaus replied at 2016-1-26 01:31
Can you just post the Battle Report of your Bankai Rukia critting for 3 million?

Pretty sure that ...

you also have the 100% crit damage to hiki, kirinji and senju in the fortify tab of the zanpakutos. im complete ass with math so you can add the crit damage done but fortify. plus when you upgrade the partner attribute bonus you get physical attack, kido attack and speed.