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Post time 2016-2-7 03:09:46 |Show the author posts only
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Post time 2016-2-7 10:45:54 |Show the author posts only
DarkAvenger26 replied at 2016-2-7 03:00
Btw guys , i have a question , to activate exclusive skill , partners need to be level 15 ?

http://forums.gogames.me/forum.p ... amp;fromuid=2396455

Read the post. I answer your exact question in it.

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Post time 2016-2-7 11:04:12 |Show the author posts only
meekrat replied at 2016-2-6 01:13
I wrote up a post on exactly how many points you earn per day/per week and how to calculate how long ...

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Post time 2016-2-7 11:24:21 |Show the author posts only
Decided to do some calculations for everyone on how long it takes to get to level 30 as an f2p (since many tavern partners get their first form of the skill at 30).

5520 fragments to reach level 30. If you never manage to get even a single extra fragments in any of your silver or gold cultivation chances then you average at best 29 fragments per day on average (20 per day on 10x silver chances and 38 on the days you get your one free gold 10x chance). Then every 29 days you also can get 1k of the fragments from the cultivation bar. Spread that out over the 29 days and you get 34.48 fragments per day from it. We'll round that down to 34. So this brings our average per day up to 63. Total it should take an f2p around 87 days to reach level 30 on it IF they do everything perfectly right every day.

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Post time 2016-2-7 12:06:17 |Show the author posts only
I have seen 100 frags / 100 frags in special cultivation before. Did not pull the trigger because it was like day 2 and we did not have enough information.

I have gotten 4x Primary fury stones from gold.

I have gotten 100 universal mod fragments( in one draw mind you ), and up to 200 exclu frags from silver.

I have drawn probably 2-3000 times at this point though.

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Post time 2016-2-8 17:35:15 |Show the author posts only
Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-2-6 07:05
Okay, so here's what I've found about the Exclusive Skills:
First and formost lets get some confusio ...

You may want to start the lvl on 0... or tell people that the lvl is the upgrade lvl. Upgrade to lvl 1 = 30
On the first post you mention that the gold 10x button gives 300 points. It gives 200 tho.
Also the 1x gold is 25 points



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Post time 2016-2-8 17:49:01 |Show the author posts only
Shaffney replied at 2016-2-8 17:35
You may want to start the lvl on 0... or tell people that the lvl is the upgrade lvl. Upgrade to l ...

Are you sure on those points amounts? Because those were the points I was getting for it on the first few days. I haven't spent gold on it recently though and haven't payed attention on my free ones.

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Post time 2016-2-8 18:10:07 |Show the author posts only
Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-2-8 23:49
Are you sure on those points amounts? Because those were the points I was getting for it on the fi ...

Yup. Just did the free 1x. Went from 2437 to 2462. Yesterday I improved 200 points on the 800 gold one. I only do it free tho, but I highly doubt it if it would be more if the 1 time free is over.
So it's like this

300.000 silver = 3 points
2.400.000 silver = 24 points

100 gold = 25 points
800 gold = 200 points

100 gold super 30 ( don't know this one, but it looks like you did it, so I believe you in this )

Also... check your pm



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Post time 2016-2-8 21:26:09 |Show the author posts only
Edited by meekrat at 2016-2-8 22:53
Kosmodestiny replied at 2016-2-6 01:05
Okay, so here's what I've found about the Exclusive Skills:
First and formost lets get some confusio ...

So, now that is has been exactly 10 days since these new features were released in our Regions, I think it would be valuable for people, who have NOT spent any gold on this feature, to post how many exclusive fragments they have earned.  The data only counts if you have used up all 100 chances everyday consistantly.  I'm going to elaborate on this a bit further along with posting some other observations/analysis.  If your stupid, or math hurts your brain, don't read any further.

So with reaching the 10 day mark we can take everyones totals and divide by 10 to get a daily average.  For example I got the +100 3 times and the +400 once, as well as a few +1's here and there.  My total has come out to 978 fragments.  Really I have 888 fragments at the moment, but I spent 90 so my grand total is 978, in 10 days.  That tells me that, on average, I earn 97.8 Fragments Per Day (FPD), we'll round this up to 98.  Again this is an average, its possible in the next 10 days I won't see a 400, which would significantly lower my average, and likewise I could hit +500 twice, which would significantly raise it, but my average is 98 FPD.

Based on the factual data provided so far, I made a calculation at the total cost of fragments from lvl 0 to lvl 70, and came out to around 30,500.  This was based on the cost going up progressively more frequently of the +20's, after lvl 35.  I'm going to go on the more conservative side for this post and say, 31,000 fragments needed.  Now lets factor in the +1000 fragments from the bonus, which we'll say on average you get once every 30 days (can do it in 29 days or under actually as F2P, but 30 days is easier to work with, plus people are bound to forget to click their shit once in a month).  So if we take the 1000 fragments / 30 we get +33.33 FPD, which we'll round down to +33 even.  We add that to the 98 FPD and get 131 FPD.  If we then divide the rough estimate of needing 31,000 fragments to achieve Excluvise Skill Level 70, by the average of 131 FPD, we get the total days needed to hit lvl 70 which is 236.  

Now that number is fluid as there are some X factors involved here.  First and foremost, this is based off of 1 sample of data, my average 10 days of FPD.  Which is why I would like others, who haven't purchased extra chances or did the Super Cultivation or paid for extra AC's to post what their total fragments are as of the end of whatever day their seeing this.  So if you looked today and you had 733 fragments and it was day #10 we could determine your average FPD is 733/10.  Or if you see this post days from now, and know that we're on the 15 day (features were released on 1/30/16 if you need to calculate the day #), and you have 1400 fragments then your average FPD is 1400/15.  The more people that post this data, the more accurate average FPD we can calculate.  If I could lets say take 5 peoples averages, and average them together, the number becomes more reflective of what the true average really is.  The closer we narrow this number down, along with further verifying the fragment costs per level, the more accurately I can predict how quickly a F2P can obtain level 70.

Here is a side observation that I made that took this long to confirm.  If you receive bonus fragments, whether its in Basic Cultivation (BC) or Advanced Cultivation (AC), if the bonus fragments appear in the middle of the top row, then it means your normal daily average rolled higher then 2 or 20.  If you get the bonus in any other slot, then it still gives you the normal fragments for that type of cultivation.  So if I got 100 fragments and it is in the top center slot, it really means I either got my normal 2 or 20 and then +98 or +80 fragments, rather then if I get the normal amount in the top center slot, and the bonus fragments in a different slot.  The only real meaning this has, is you will never see +402 or +120 fragment bonuses etc.  You will either see your +2/+20 and another bonus of +100 or +400 etc., or you will just see the 100/400/500 etc. in the top center.  It is also possible to get multiple bonus fragments, I have on more then once got 4 fragments in 1 cultivation, a normal +2 and two separate +1's.  I have not got multiple bonuses in one cultivation that were above +1 though, meaning I haven't gotten multiple +100's etc., in the same cultivate - but that doesn't mean it isn't possible, just possibly very rare.
Also, additional side note, after 10 days I earned exactly 3508 cultivation points.  So, 3508 x3 (thats 30 days, aka 1 month) = 10,524.  So to be more precise, we'll round that 3508 down to 3500, which if we divide by 10 = average of 350 points per day. 10,000 / 350 = 28.5 days (ie 29 days) to earn the reward.  So as I stated in the other post where I broke down the math much, much more detailed then this, it does indeed take 29 days or less for a F2P to earn the reward.  Matter of fact, if you just did single basic cultivations and never did x10 basic cultivations, you would actually hit 10k even faster - although missing out on a month worth of those rewards would definitely not be better - hell I've already gotten a lvl 8 hogu from the basic cultivation x10 and multiple +100 fragment rewards, but point is as a F2P, you -can- hit the big reward in 25-29 days depending on how you go about it, the maximum is 29 days if you do it like most everyone is doing it - also assuming you don't spend any gold on cultivations or extra chances.

Newho, I just posted
1) Some math/calculations and a rough estimate of how long it takes to achieve level 70 exclusive skill (236 days)
2) Request for additional info - people who are 100% F2P to post their total fragments earned and how many days they've been cultivating
3) An observation on bonus fragments from cultivations

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Post time 2016-2-9 20:13:48 |Show the author posts only
meekrat replied at 2016-2-8 21:26
So, now that is has been exactly 10 days since these new features were released in our Regions, I t ...

No posts after this?  No one sharing their data?  Pffft...
Wonder if that means people actually listened to my sentence of "If your stupid, or math hurts your brain, don't read any further."

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