Nelliel Tu and Urahara combo

moongoatie

Kisuke +Gin/Aizen is and will be far more effective. You can switch them around against assaulter or support based formations. You forget that the main problem of your "combo" is not that nel is a slow partner, but that Kisuke is a super slow partner. I'm not even talking about 0 division partners cause there is no point.

But a Kisuke+Nel will most like loose to typical 100 lv formation such as kisuke+gin or kisuke+aizen at 110. Daiguren could have some use, but I would still use Gin. My Advice would be to try top up on Reios for the fury stones to t1 your Urahara and your yamata, till you can get your pure t1. If you can't afford that,  just work on Kisuke+Yamamato. Getting both those t1 with packs isn't that hard

Unholyknight

moongoatie replied at 2016-3-5 15:24
Kisuke +Gin/Aizen is and will be far more effective. You can switch them around against assaulter or ...

this I can fully agree on as I can vouch for this combo long before I got my Nel upgraded. I did also forget to mention that Urahara is a super slow partner as well so stacking agi on him is the only way to go with him.

moongoatie thank you for going into better details then I could ever do. it hard to go off of something you have never used yourself in the game to convey to others

moongoatie

Unholyknight replied at 2016-3-5 16:33
this I can fully agree on as I can vouch for this combo long before I got my Nel upgraded. I did a ...

I can't say I really used nel, but back on lv 100ish my nemesis on arena went on that route while i went for Kisuke+gin. He was 1st and I was 2nd and I couldn't beat him. When het got his Nel he lost that 1st place for a while and got mad how "useless" she was.

Then he changed back to yoruichi and claimed his 1st arena place. Used Nel only for events

Unholyknight

moongoatie replied at 2016-3-5 16:03
I can't say I really used nel, but back on lv 100ish my nemesis on arena went on that route while  ...

yeah Nel only great if you can do one of 2 things. either get enough dmg to where you Assult line can  destroy them or debuff them to the point they can't get fury. if Nel can't do either one then she falls flat and I'm lucky enough that most of the ppl I face don't focus on their hit rate otherwise I be in trouble every fight

faracorn

i think if you bond Nell with Pantera she ll become fast cause she takes 12% speed from bond 8% from mod and 26.5k at lvl 11 evo and with +100 speed acc she ll be fast enough to outrun the most of teams.
Right now i am 100(at last) i use urahara yoru and yama t1 my main and urahara has 72% fury. until hit 110 at take gamuza Neliel i ll stay at that combo i think
P.S the urahara swp tos combo is really good if you plan to not full evo toshiro(15 fury at lvl11).

MylarHyrule

after Kieske goes, it's simple to T1 people,  7 basic stones...  easy to get even for F2P if i'm honest

faracorn

MylarHyrule replied at 2016-3-25 21:31
after Kieske goes, it's simple to T1 people,  7 basic stones...  easy to get even for F2P if i'm hon ...

3 of my formation have 50% fury but as all say Kisuke is really slow that's why i want to go to Nell cause she can be fast

ShadowConsortium

faracorn replied at 2016-3-5 16:05
i know but i cant take shinso gin  i thought the combo first with shinso gin

Do you mean you can't get him or not use him? Since you said your VIP5, you can get him for some coupons if, you save up for him (28,500 Coupons from 0 contracts). Legend Gallery. If anything though, why not try Kisuke / CSB Aizen?

Don't forget you can speed up Kisuke using the Soul Cult. Fragments if you don't have access to the better supports.

Unholyknight

here the problem with that though, if you do that then you have the risk of making your Nel move before your Urahara because Urahara doesn't get much of a buff from his passive and the only other way to make him faster then Nel at that point is to stack urahara through exclusive. again the combo was good but its only good if your going up against someone on the same level as you or is weaker then you. even at full evo anyone post 0 division will simply out speed the Urehara+Nel combo.

You can still go for it if you want just don't expect to win many fight like you think you will, I dropped that combo as soon as I got Cute Orihime from Soul Cultivation and didn't look back

ShadowConsortium

Unholyknight replied at 2016-3-25 21:38
here the problem with that though, if you do that then you have the risk of making your Nel move bef ...

To be pretty realistic, if he doesn't mind burning some fragments on Kisuke, he can really speed him up enough to beat alot of people. Also, isn't Cute Orihime mostly for PvE? I know she attacks support but wouldn't a better option at least for him just to stick to Kisuke / Gin, or Kisuke / Aizen. However, he could also take a more defensive approach with like Tosen, Unohana(exclusive skill), CSB Aizen (or someone). Just floating out ideas.