WARNING - New Partner Bugged [partial FIX]

theunknown404

moongoatie replied at 2016-4-2 11:51
Wow, I didn't know this and you just made me waste my whole day doing varius different tests. Thank ...

15% Wisdom should increase your strategy attack by 15% assuming your strategy attack only comes from Wisdom. It shouldn't account for bonuses from things like evolution, Hollow Soul maps, and Mod souls (+Assists), which don't affect the Wisdom stat. That's why 15% kido attack is actually better than 15% Wisdom.
EDIT: Whoops, I take that back. It's better if you want more attack, but it won't increase defense like 15% Wisdom.

Evild4nte

theunknown404 replied at 2016-4-2 22:49
Are the attack dmg numbers the same?

Ok, i did some serious tests.
The mod works.
It seems, when the other supporter has too much KATk my assaulters def is just too low to avoid much dmg even doubled.


I made some tests vs a lower hiki with 376k MAtk
Here are the results:

                                  with Kakaku                     without Kakaku
Senru (296k Mdef)              7 dmg !!                                   140k
Hiki (266k MDef)                 7 dmg !!                                   200k
Brenji (94k MDef)                 340k                                       520k
Prot (87k Mdef)                    360k                                       540k
               
I think i need some KidoDef on BRenji.

theunknown404

Evild4nte replied at 2016-4-2 17:08
Ok, i did some serious tests.
The mod works.
It seems, when the other supporter has too much KATk m ...

Oh okay. That's great then. It would suck if it didn't work. Kind of takes away from the fun otherwise.

I was told once the target's defense is applied to the attacker's attack before attack/dmg multipliers (skill growth, dmg rate, etc.) are applied, and that seems to be the case so far from what I've witnessed. In other words, total damage to a target = (attacker's base attack - target's defense) * dmg rate * other multipliers...

So, yeah if their kido defense is that small, it really won't make much difference in total damage taken.

That would also mean that, no matter how high your enemy's skill growth rate is, if your defense is higher than their base attack, completely nullified.

I would love to see what would happen with more kido defense on the assaulters. Sounds like a good counter to certain situations.

Evild4nte

Sylencer90 replied at 2016-4-2 23:38
I thought all big spenders run 3-2-0 nowdays, how did you end up on 1-x-x?

Don´t want Oetsu only for his 6th mod in my team and dont see any sense in another supporter besides him.

Dotiie

Sylencer90 replied at 2016-4-2 22:38
I thought all big spenders run 3-2-0 nowdays, how did you end up on 1-x-x?

VG's are very good for the meta we are in, notably 3 - Nozarashi Ken (for block, notably against Hikifune), Ichibe (for fighting those equal formations and simply put tanking more by VG alone) and now Sexy Kukaku (defence to the whole team, helps against faster or simply stronger opponents)

I think the big spenders are noticing this, no VG formations was pretty much the time when you could go all out, and that your offence became your defence, now we are slowly getting balanced with these vanguards coming in

theunknown404

Dotiie replied at 2016-4-2 18:43
VG's are very good for the meta we are in, notably 3 - Nozarashi Ken (for block, notably against H ...

Noza Ken - Lots of block
Ichibe - HP demon
Sexy Kukaku - Defense demon

PrimevalFear

Underworld_9 replied at 2016-4-1 13:34
wow  is it so hard for the game not to mess things up? anyway............ it's like TSI's normal ...

My TS Ichigo's normal attack does way more than 5 damage, lol. You might have a spirit stone problem if that's the case for you.

moongoatie

Evild4nte replied at 2016-4-2 17:08
Ok, i did some serious tests.
The mod works.
It seems, when the other supporter has too much KATk m ...

You could try this formula (Atk-Def)*(Dmg rate-Immune rate)*Growth Rate% = damage dealt to check 100% if everything works fine

Evild4nte

moongoatie replied at 2016-4-3 09:51
You could try this formula (Atk-Def)*(Dmg rate-Immune rate)*Growth Rate% = damage dealt to check 1 ...

seems to fit.