Hakuteiken Byakuya or Shura Kenpachi?

PAOFUI

SeiryuSky replied at 2015-3-30 06:21
well let's say first we should know if they have same increase in strength so let's say it's the s ...

thanx seiryu ... but... this is not wat i am askin...

bcoz... all this stats we hav them in the guide... n yeah CSB Ken has higher dmg...

wat i am sayin is...

wit CSB Ken... he onli can use lvl 110 RED GEARS...

but wit HAI Bya... he can use lvl 100 ULTI GEARS...

so who will do more dmg wit this kinda of conditions... ??

note tht... the gears r off same lvl...  stones r same... hogu... jades... n etc...

watman

PAOFUI replied at 2015-3-30 06:37
thanx seiryu ... but... this is not wat i am askin...

bcoz... all this stats we hav them in the ...

I'm thinking you only care about total Team damage with both partners,

First, do we agree that Ultimate Gears are good for +20 levels?
Like, Level 80 Relampago is > Level 100 Spirit Forged?

If so, we can agree that Level 100 Cyclone is > Level 110 Spirit Forged, maybe even Level 120 Spirit Forged

Now, given that CSB Ken already deals more %-damage than Hakuteiken Byakuya:
1100% vs 1010% (not my calculations)

Your question is really:
Given that Shura Kenpachi will be at a disadvantage in equipment, would Hakuteiken push out more damage?

My answer is:
-- What str bonus does Shura Ken have?  15% or 30%?

If it's 15%, I think CSB Byakuya may be really close given the equipment
If it's 30%, I think Shura Ken will still deal a bit more due to the str bonus


I am also facing the same dilemma in picking out a new partner
Still leaning toward CSB Byakuya, simply because the Combo intrigues me more than a massive hit

PAOFUI

watman replied at 2015-3-30 13:17
I'm thinking you only care about total Team damage with both partners,

First, do we agree that Ul ...

well... if the damage % is too lil to make a big difference...

i might as well settle for not changin the gears... n get into the trouble of doin so...

get wat i mean...

better to get CSB Bya n gif hiim tht lvl 100 ulti...

instead of havin CSB Ken... givin him tht lvl 110 red gear...

n then hav a spare lvl 100 ulti which i dun use...

hmmmmm... thts y i am still thinkin... n suddenly this got me...

bcoz i suddenly realize tht CSB Ken uses Spirit Blade... hics...

watman

PAOFUI replied at 2015-3-30 13:36
well... if the damage % is too lil to make a big difference...

i might as well settle for not c ...

I assume that you didn't get Cyclone gear through Rei'o
>> Rei'o would've given you the entire set, with spare for each weapon-type, haha


But yeah, I totally get what you mean
It's super costly to Spirit Forge a set now, so I would only do it if you had no other choice
Can you imagine how much a Level 120 Ult set would cost?

Level 80 was about $25~50 a set
Level 100 was about $75~150 a set

Level 120... probably $200+

PAOFUI

watman replied at 2015-3-30 13:39
I assume that you didn't get Cyclone gear through Rei'o
>> Rei'o would've given you the entire set ...

well yeah... i got 5 sets of lvl 100 ulti when it first came out...

din expected lvl 110 to come out 1 month after tht.... sigh sigh sigh...

n yeah... by then... i ve decided not to spend n feed GOGAMES...

n also i dun wanna to join the ranks of VIP 10s... since i am havin fun

being an underdog... or dark horse... tht alwiz tryin to beat some VIP 10s around...

YagamiLi

PAOFUI replied at 2015-3-30 10:56
well yeah... i got 5 sets of lvl 100 ulti when it first came out...

din expected lvl 110 to com ...

don't be an idiot and actually consider csb byakuya for pve

unless you're an idiot
if you want to be an idiot just remember the -75% break defense that applies to ryoka and es

not only is the base dmg superior the skill effect adds more ontop of it

100 spirit forged> 80 ultimate

superior refines and more stats overall

do what you want with your life

but you're an idiot if you pick csb byakuya

ajoalex

watman replied at 2015-3-30 22:17
I'm thinking you only care about total Team damage with both partners,

First, do we agree that Ul ...

go for csb byakuya if you want him to be used in pvp too. then add him with main and any of your top damage assaulters with 8th skill and that would give you a good amount of damage.

rukia, kisuke, main, csb.bya, sexy.yorui in my case gives 24-25m dmg for 8th skill and 21-22m dmg for 9th skill. and the good thing for me is that csb.bya is best for my pvp setup hitting all enemies and also reducing their speed, thus my main gets to attack twice thanks to his 100% combo.

i use shura only for ryoka only, stark gives me that aoe which kills the stronger full fury support who are on their edge hps. so go for shura in the end ie i would save those coupons and go for aizen when its time

so if its csb.bya vs shura kenny , then i would say go for csb.bya, will be a very imp player for pvp when fighting esp those fast support or a fast T1 player

595459354

YagamiLi replied at 2015-3-30 20:31
don't be an idiot and actually consider csb byakuya for pve

unless you're an idiot

Uhm does CBS kenpachi's skill even work on ES/royka?

YagamiLi

595459354 replied at 2015-3-30 11:51
Uhm does CBS kenpachi's skill even work on ES/royka?

yes.........

YagamiLi

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-30 11:49
go for csb byakuya if you want him to be used in pvp too. then add him with main and any of your t ...

watman just wants to copy the nobunaga person, not because he wants to be effective in pve