Unohana Retsu

Leitzur

I just found out that when all assaulters and vanguard KO'ed, unohana still cannot heal herself and other supports. (Well, apart from mods, total stat and AoE heal, orihime/nemu is better at this point, at least she can heal the support line when VG and AS KO'ed, so can still win the support vs support battle sometimes)

To battle with someone who has yoruichi or other support's fury stunners, eventhough unohana is faster and can heal once, they can decrease fury or even stun her, so the next rounds will be harder.


Any tips using her for pvp and pve (not including ES/Ryoka)?

Brahmastra

The only tip I can give you is be faster or get a different partner, fury reduction will happen unless you manage to kill the enemy support on your first fury turn or reduce their fury before they can.
It's the same with yoruichi, she's completely useless if she's not faster than the opponent's main and support. She will either die, unless you stack her with counter and stamina stones, or lose fury from the enemies yoruichi which makes her still useless.
A lot of people get her yet they don't know how to use her which still makes her completely useless and a waste of silver.

I'm personally not much of a Unohana fan for Arena and I only use her in Guildwar to counter the damage Zanpakuto's do.
I'm not sure what formation you use, or what your server looks like. But what I can advise you, in theory, is to get Harribel instead.

Harribel, if faster, will make sure your enemies don't do any insane amount of damage, thus your team does not require any healing.
Your VG however must be able to take 1-2 rounds of regular hits and your assaulters at least 1 round of hits. (may the VG die by normal attacks)

Of course giving you information without knowing what your server is like is hard. As for me Harribel did an amazing job in PVP, more than Unohana ever will.

Leitzur

Brahmastra replied at 2014-12-7 09:52
The only tip I can give you is be faster or get a different partner, fury reduction will happen unle ...

My server is overly populated by ghostblade user (around 90% or more top 40 are ghostblade users, which is insanely hard after 200% hp buff).

Well yes, I personally think recruiting harribel is better than yoruichi for my server condition, I regret it
(haven't recruited unohana yet, not enough lvl)

I mainly use ikkaku and yoruichi, but still haven't got enough agi stones for my main, and my yoruichi speed is still low, make her almost useless. (yk kido user is harder to play than ghostblade, they need high wis, agi and stam stones to cope with)

I mostly died at enemies 2nd aoe skill (or maybe at 1st aoe turn if they have byakuya and barragan too), so I won't recruit unohana soon, maybe I will recruit unohana after my team is strong enough to compete. I'm just asking some tips now.

Leitzur

any others? ik many ppl using retsu already so I think you guys can share it

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Leitzur replied at 2014-12-8 01:38
any others? ik many ppl using retsu already so I think you guys can share it

Leitzur i still don't have unohana but i'm planning to take her soon, prefered kenpachi for pve purposes, but definitly gonna take her, for once she'll be usefull against pve hollow map espada 2 and stark also,

On pvp based condition, ofc she need to be fast but the slowest on your team so she can heal after the attks; then there is a way to immune at least against stun, the accessories; if i remeber well you have a combo of 2 accessories who trigger control resistance if they're higher than your opponents yoru, his yrou won't stun at least most of the time; i managed thks to that to win against a dude who trigger 100 fury first round thks to his rukia final mod, where you have 2 accessories which resists and reduce the fury given by his support.

Another tip your unohana will definitly need stome stamina and hp to resist more than 2 rounds against 10th skill

Hope it can help you on your  choice,

selene0818

I agree... I got Unohana & have not regretted it one bit.... you def do need to bulk up her stamina though.

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i'm currently level 89..
But i will definitely recruit her together with kenpachi
She is very useful in hollow soul map
And if you're against to ghost bladers..
I prefer 1-3-1 formation