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[email protected] replied at 2017-4-11 17:45
The main point with Kisuke at higher bp is that when he die misseraby from the first nuke - he res ...

Yea, but no guarantees that they will ever come back...
This is why Shinso would be the best one ^^ (After excl Shunsui :p )
I'm talking about guaranteed partners, ofc u can hope that they will release some partner in ubp soon, but no guarantees it wont be x-mas ichigo for the next 5 years, who knows when it's gogames xD

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[email protected] replied at 2017-4-11 15:52
Yea, but no guarantees that they will ever come back...
This is why Shinso would be the best one ^^ ...

Well, there's Kyoka Suigetsu Aizen and Ogichi from CSB, not to mention toilet chair-sama. I would probably pick lv 120 set/accessories as a f2p, but still they'r superior in case somebody wants a good character.

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[email protected] replied at 2017-4-12 02:29
Well, there's Kyoka Suigetsu Aizen and Ogichi from CSB, not to mention toilet chair-sama. I would p ...

Bcs of him attacking every round, I would still say that Shinso is better than any Aizen except chair Aizen, the giving fury part is quite a nice bonus as well. I would still say that Shunsui with excl is still better than any of these, but tbh, all these characters are pretty close in terms of usefullness ^^
Damage wise, White Ichigo is def better than Shinso, though running them both is a very good team indeed, and seeing as hey don't conflict with each other in terms of getting them both, you can work your way towards them both at the same time :p
All partners have their own use, you completely dismissed a partners use and thats why several people went through this whole discussion with you.You can't just say a partner is irrellevant because you personally have no use for him, it doesn't mean other people using other formations don't :p

Oh yea, Noza doesn't suck either, just fyi...
Have you seen some of the noza's out there? They're insanely strong and heal every round bcs of hyorinmaru's buff to him. It's too much for even teams like yours sometimes.
A noza with hyorinmaru thats stacked can solo alot of teams completely...

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[email protected] replied at 2017-4-12 02:22
Bcs of him attacking every round, I would still say that Shinso is better than any Aizen except cha ...

Nope, i said that he is enferior to to Kisuke after tavern partners got their 7th star. Shinso is not the best fury giver anymore and neither was the best character. Noza is useless in against many teams, lv70 exclusive is to much of a waste. Yes there is probably 1 of 100 Nozas that is properly stacked and is hard to kill, but that can apply to almost any character. I have been 1-shoted by tavern Byakua and also meet a psycho in HMA that stacked Yachiru (lv50 tavern VG) to the levels that i did 7-10 damage to her But they could've done the same with any other character.

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[email protected] replied at 2017-4-11 11:45
The main point with Kisuke at higher bp is that when he die misseraby from the first nuke - he res ...

you can't add UBP into a F2P discussion...  of course that event will drop partners stronger than Shinso, however, Shinso is more consistent and you can go get him anytime

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MylarHyrule replied at 2017-4-12 11:30
you can't add UBP into a F2P discussion...  of course that event will drop partners stronger than  ...

You can get Chair, Kyoka Aizen and W.Ichigo aswell in theory. Im just saying it is not worth to waste all these resources on them. Two extra t11 and t12 hogus in Gins case and 4x lv 120 sets in Aizens case will do much greater help to a f2p player.

If Gin were red and had some wis-bonus in talent i would maybe agree with him being great for f2p, but he do almost no damage. Lollilover1446 is great example of why you should NOT stack Gin, this guy has all the potential to kill me and many other players, but DPS his Gin is doing is just not enough and that is with 50% Hiki damage buff. F2P Shinso will deal no damage at all after a certain point. Shinso is just a fury giver and kisuke can do just the same with a better death mod.

Sure you can grab him while having Shini-agent for collection sake, but waste tons of coupons as F2P is not worth it.

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[email protected] replied at 2017-4-12 22:33
You can get Chair, Kyoka Aizen and W.Ichigo aswell in theory. Im just saying it is not worth to was ...

I'll just have to disagree...  I am VIP, and have had shini welfare since it came out, so my experience as F2P is non-existent... however, I know my Shinso is very nice...  true he cannot stand up to the real supports (Hikifune, Oetsu, ect...) compared to F2P supports he seems very very nice...   you can spend the coupons for him durring visored revenge, so your whole thing of he will cost you 2x tier 11 and 2x tier 12 hogus is bogus...   he is a lot of work, and isn't a top tier support anymore, but he is for sure very nice...  and for his crappy stun rate...  mine is close to 75% atm, so that's not terrible for sure

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my opinion is like some1 said you play as you want ofc if you use hirako as your vanguard you ll probably not be able to stand a chance against high lvl players but if you want to play with him in your team and you know what the consequences are so play with him as it goes for s.gin for me if you dont want to spend 200 bugs to take hiki take kyoraku . if you cant affort to take noza as vip5 i know alot of people who they dont want to spend money on the game take the h.ichigo or even the fucking Noitra(hate me ) . S.gin is for me one of the createst partners in the game a guy from my server. has took ryumon ikkaku and have s.gin hired to evo him and mod him (he can make him t1) i dont think is waste to spend on him if would like i could take him too but i prefer to focus on one support who is good (kyoraku) not 2.
team= kyoraku-urahara(kyoka aizen at some point)-yama-main-starrk zan hyorin

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i am the guy with the ikkaku

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[email protected] replied at 2017-4-8 20:41
shinso is crap - slow and no damage. I have used both, now i dont use any of em anymore cuz i have ...

Oh, you used them both? I'm using kisuke now and I'm thinking about getting shinso to replace him. I'm hoping that Shinso would be faster, that'S pretty much the only thing that's important to me, because kisuke is hard to keep fast, even with the tavern upgrade (which I have, ofc).

So can you tell me: is there a chance I'd be faster with Shinso than with Kisuke? Cuz if not, there's no point for me in getting shinso.