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Post time 2017-8-16 18:44:08 |Show the author posts only
i personally enjoy killing that sajin everyday. its fun you guys should try it and i use no vanguard

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Post time 2017-8-16 19:36:22 |Show the author posts only
BurrakuRaijja replied at 2017-8-15 01:24
but which is actually better if i have kirinji/Hiki,Red kisuke,Main and toshiro

If I could start over I'd probably have run toshi + hyorin from a low level...  I think it is a combo with lots of potential for the price tag

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Post time 2017-8-16 22:41:58 |Show the author posts only
fully modded and evo with exclus hes good exspecially if you switch two modds to block..hes at like 140 block plus can lower def 50% of all enemies def when attacked(mod) while skills lower att 25%..i dont have hyorin tho..

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Post time 2017-8-17 10:25:18 |Show the author posts only
BurrakuRaijja replied at 2017-8-16 22:41
fully modded and evo with exclus hes good exspecially if you switch two modds to block..hes at like  ...

hyorin fixes his "squishy" issues from what I understand... and I can say for sure, Hyorin is good at making a vanguard tough

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Post time 2017-8-17 10:34:09 |Show the author posts only
MylarHyrule replied at 2017-8-17 10:25
hyorin fixes his "squishy" issues from what I understand... and I can say for sure, Hyorin is good ...

All the Nozas that are backed up by hyorin will agree with you .

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Post time 2017-8-17 11:16:56 |Show the author posts only
They both have their pro's and cons...

Red Byakuya
Pros:
-easier to obtain base partner
-faster to mod
-death skill mod (good for Void, it seems)
-can equip red hogu
-with ex-skill also usefull in pve
-potentially higher stats due to growth rates as red partner

Red Byakuya cons:
-turning him red might take a while (unless enough RR from events is obtained)
-rather mediocre skill in regards of damage and usefulness; only really usefull in PVP when speed is a crucial issue and when paired with an apppropriate, speed-enhancing zan (Senbon, Sode, Tensa)
-pulling out the potential of his high growth rates requires much/strong enhancing materials (high lvl stones, hogu, etc.)

Yama pros:
-better skill (higher growth rate/damage; burn, heal and fury restriction give additional advantages in PVP)*
-will probably have better stats most of the time (especially when both partners just have started been worked on)

Yama cons:
-slower to mod
-no red Hogu
-slow partner (can be a plus, depending on strategy)
-rather little use in PVE

*I also beg to differ with Mylar about Yama's use in Void. With his burn, Yama can do quite the damage. A notable part of my damage in void is inflicted by Yama's burn.

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Post time 2017-8-17 11:25:11 |Show the author posts only
X-Zero13 replied at 2017-8-18 00:16
They both have their pro's and cons...

Red Byakuya

Why don't use yama and byakuya in void together?

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Post time 2017-8-17 11:51:54 |Show the author posts only
[email protected] replied at 2017-8-17 11:25
Why don't use yama and byakuya in void together?

That's probably not a bad idea, but ask the thread opener why he wants to chose .

As for me, I just don't want to go through the effort of building up a decent Byakuya (again). I got other, better partners to put work in now .

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Post time 2017-8-17 12:14:05 |Show the author posts only
X-Zero13 replied at 2017-8-18 00:51
That's probably not a bad idea, but ask the thread opener why he wants to chose .

As for me, I  ...

Byakuya can be replaced by any ubp assaulter though.

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Post time 2017-8-17 12:57:24 |Show the author posts only
For those that haven't used Byakuya in void before, I can understand why you would pick Yama or are on the fence. However, I started using Byakuya about a month ago, and lemme tell you this. I used to do about 500k damage in void even with the 25% attack bonus. Switched to Byakuya's death mod, now I do 3mil damage on average, with 5mil 25% bonus 2 voids ago.

So you tell me if your Yama burn improves damage by a lot, because that burn doesn't work unless all your partners survive one round and the enemy attacks as burn only is inflicted on the turn of them attacking.

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