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Post time 2017-10-5 18:51:51 |Show the author posts only
rogue79 replied at 2017-10-5 16:45
I think I'll just hang on to my 12k gold and then wait for an event to come around that I can get a  ...

lol  right?  suggest something they don't like and suddenly you are an idiot, lol

b renji is a great choice, so is white Ichi

Koga is much better than both but 15k usually

Shin Isshin is for sure lower class than any of them but you can get him at your level for 5k gold total, paid out slowly over time, with free weeks thrown in from KTF, in fact, with a few decent topups you could get him totally free with a little work, and isshin would boost any other assaulters put with him, plus his void in PVP is great if you get him fast enough...  most new partners are not immune to void...  not many partners period are immune to it in fact....  he's lower class but a good team player and much cheaper....  just to get a good flame from them, lol

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Post time 2017-10-5 19:01:00 |Show the author posts only
Edited by CyberAizen at 2017-10-6 00:09
MylarHyrule replied at 2017-10-5 23:45
why waste a support spot when you can easily max block rate and so many assaulters regen 100 fury  ...

Did you read the thread? Level 88, and you expect them to have a stacked enough White in order to deal more damage than Berserk Renji with full block? Not waste of a support spot at all for their level, nice going thinking in their perspective. White does not regen 100 fury and Renji does

They already have a Hikifune. Now suggest once more why White is better than the guaranteed damage dealing Renji. I must wonder why nobody uses him compare to Renji. Maybe think long term of not answer the thread that has already been answered, can you not admit things Lol


Why ignore my first 2 sentences made for show White damage and prove it, and that I am weak? Do you always ignore things after it is prove wrong without admitting?

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Post time 2017-10-5 19:30:25 |Show the author posts only
CyberAizen replied at 2017-10-5 19:01
Did you read the thread? Level 88, and you expect them to have a stacked enough White in order to d ...

you are right about white, not sure why I was thinking he regens own fury by 100...  maybe cause someone threw out koga and i dunno, anyway, yeah, only 35 fury on self, check one b renji (who again, I never said was a bad choice, just not the only one with any merit)  you have no idea what they have or have not stacked...  I'm still amazed that you are steadfast that white ichi has no merit, lol   such a shallow player it's unbelievable...

and sorry, maybe I missed the first 2 sentences...  give me a min, I'll go back and look again

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CyberAizen replied at 2017-10-5 16:37
>Everywhere but ES
Do you forget his death mod for Pvp and Void? Or that you can still use him in P ...

death mod for pvp, I touched there...  with hikifune being everywhere and easy to T1 these days, if she skills first and clear b renji (not uncommon to happen) it completely negates his death mod in pvp...  in void, it's good, but still will do shit damage for all but the strongest of the strong from insane def boost, thus the AOE attack will draw more damage than b renji's attack, while b renji does not boost anyone as crit doesn't work in void, yet white ichi (after dealing much more damage from skill) will boost the rest of your middle row's damage rate by 25%, vs b renji's damage dealt on back row (if there is any left if i'm honest)...  based on how your team is built, you could easily get much more damage from W Ichi...  team him with maybe a Muken (talking of later game) to give Muken's first hit that +25% damage rate...   this is all based on dying first round as that's when I die, even my hard stacked, 2M BP TSI dies at that first blocked hit, and if my vang with a 400k phy def dies from one blocked phy hit, I'm guessing this guy won't be tanking them any time soon...  know what I mean?  yeah...


is b renji a good choice?  hell yeah
is white ichi a good choice?  hell yeah

will they both play the same?  nope
will each be better than the other in different situations?  of course

best best?  get both, or Yhwach, B Yamma, hell, cheat for Muken, I don't care...  b renji isn't the best assaulter in the game, so the best option would be to tell him to save it till he has 50k to spend on whoever the top dog is at that point, right?  or is less that the strongest advice you could give only wrong when someone else does it?

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MylarHyrule replied at 2017-10-6 00:30
you are right about white, not sure why I was thinking he regens own fury by 100...  maybe cause s ...

I just say why have to mention White any way, is nothing compare to Renji or Koga, no need to waste gold on White especially if only argument is 25% damage rate which is easy achievable or made up for with Koga and Renji alone
Better option > Unique experience in this case

If the best assaulters are already mentioned, no need for your input for a different, worse answer. I did not say White has no merit but compare to already mentioned options, why bother is not worth it

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MylarHyrule replied at 2017-10-6 00:38
death mod for pvp, I touched there...  with hikifune being everywhere and easy to T1 these days, i ...

Why are you giving yourself questions to boost up your point? Is irrelevant to say these questions Rofl

All I ever say is no need to say White as a suggestion for the team he has and the level, he is not a partner to keep late game by lacking very much and certainly not help being gold partner too. I will ask again, if is so good with how much potential he has, why is he not everywhere or seen a lot more in formations?

You point out 1 counter that is Hikifune for Renji but no counter for White be fair Lol he is gold and now lacking up to date. Reason I "attack" you in first place for White comment is saying other players give outdated and irrelevant advice, yet suggesting White is exactly doing that

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Edited by MylarHyrule at 2017-10-6 07:15
CyberAizen replied at 2017-10-5 20:15
Why are you giving yourself questions to boost up your point? Is irrelevant to say these questions ...

my questions are just to make you, the reader, see what I'm getting at...  I get it, it's a little above your head, my bad
I only have hiki as a counter as she is everywhere now...  like how tensa is everywhere...
and no, you have followed me and attacked me for weeks now...  white is a viable suggestion, you don't like to see cookie cutter teams?  fucking suggest other partners when people ask bro, it's easy as fuck, think outside the box, find good uses for different partners (almost no partner in this game is total garbage and most of them can be an all star on your team if you build for it...  I don't care how many teams he's on, I've seen good ones, I can look at the partner and see he's got potential...  
and for the counter to white, for sure he's got counters, I mentioned Isshin earlier...  but to be fair, any good counter to white Ichi will also counter B Renji...  or any counters I can think of

if white was still 30k gold or more, yeah, he'd be outdated, but since his price dropped so hard, he has again become relevant IMO

he is not a 30k partner anymore, but I find he fits nicely in the 10k range   Shinso is old, but still very relivent, TSI is old but still very solid   old does not mean useless   now telling someone to stack dodge on a ryukken is old and irrelevant and a good way to loose late game hard, telling someone that Starrk is the best vang in the game is old and irrelevant, and will hurt someone end game...  telling someone to get white ichi is a good investment if you don't plan to top up big...  not in my opinion, and you haven't convinced me of anything except b renji is a good assaulter (which I knew he was before and never even tried to suggest othewise) and that you are an asshole (again, knew it before)  but white Ichi IS a good assaulter, probably one of the best investments in the game if you get him right
(to clarify, by best investment, I"m refering to you can easily get him totally free without too much time or effort (6 months with 0 gold and 0 luck invested I belive) and in that repeatable free category, I'm quite sure White Ichi is the strongest assaulter that fits there in the game)

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Xallog replied at 2017-10-6 14:29
Shinsoo is old, but also 3.2k. White is old, but 12k csb stones, which is 6000 asauchi, I think I' ...

i think u are a bit wrong, yama doesnt come close to how tanky and harder hittin white can be, even tho yama has that 25% burn, but on the asauchi point i couldnt agree more with you. if asauchi werent an option, then whichi wins hands down yama

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