ichigo from seven day gift or lisa

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Glasglow replied at 2014-9-28 08:23
This thread is Jurassic Park old.

But golden Ichigo is by far better than anything you can get unti ...

LOL......................

I know you just didn't say Shitchigo is the best thing you can get till 80 assaulter wise. He's got the same growth rate as Renji, but hits for a lot less damage. His fury attack is one of the weakest fury attacks in the game period, and very useless. He doesn't even do decent damage with high level spirit stones. I had lvl 7 stones on him, I'd know lol...there is no compairson in dmg compaired to Renji. Holy crap I can't believe you said that.

Glasglow

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-30 01:30
LOL......................

I know you just didn't say Shitchigo is the best thing you can get till ...

Oh come on, don't dissapoint me, you are like the highest player in bleach but you are ignorant aswell?

I'll give you the same answer i gave to the other dude in another thread.

The only assaulter that is better than Ichigo is Byakuya, reason being is that Ichigo is the best assaulter killer in the game for a very long time.

Shitchigo? Are you for real? With high enough stones, Ichigo hits like a truck, while Renji can barely even scratch Komamura, the whole point of ichigo is PvP, he hits every turn, note every, which is important, because Lisa can't hit every turn but hits every 3rd turn, you know, needs 100 fury, doesn't get it for FREE every turn like Ichigo.

So in the end, if you have atleast kindergarden grade math abilities, you would realize that Lisa does 270% damage to the enemy assaulters each 6 turns (or in the first 5 turns), while ichigo does 400% (320 in 5), oh look, he does 40% more damgae than lisa, what a surprise.
And guess what! He doesn't need to wait until 5th turn, to be able to finish off the assaulters, if you can't kill them in one turn.

Ichigo is the best assaulter killer in the game for a long time, and the dude is asking Ichigo or Lisa, so he needs him for an assaulter killer composition right?Besides, from personal experience:
Most people who don't pump lots of $$ into this game, their Renji can't even scratch my komamura's defense, so Ichigo is tons stronger than Renji in that regard, since he doesn't need to even touch the vanguard until last.

Please dont be ignorant like the lv40 kids that barely even played this game, his growth rate is lower than average, but he compensates in other ways.

Keep an open mind and have a good day~

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Glasglow replied at 2014-9-30 01:58
Oh come on, don't dissapoint me, you are like the highest player in bleach but you are ignorant asw ...

No he's not lol...he's crap. I had high stones on him, his damage rate is crap. His dmg on his fury attack is 80%. It doesn't even hit hard, even with lvl 7 str stones. You are an idiot if you think he is the best assaulter pre 80. Just because he hits everyone means NOTHING, when it does NO DAMAGE. I don't care if he is 100% fury every turn, his damage is shit. It's been proven, tested, and it's just fact. He does not make up for it in any way whatsoever and most battles don't go past the 2nd/3rd rounds as is. He's pretty much just there to do minimal damage, where as any sane person with Renji and the same stones will see he does sooo much more damage with his fury attack, and his normal attacks with his self atk buff, which also stacks with Kazeshini 30% dmg increase right there. Ichigo better....lol...wow.

Get that shit out of here with that. Lisa sucks just as much. But he is nowhere near the best assaulter in the game, pre 80, pre 70, pre anything. He never hits like a truck. Ever. I don't know where the hell you are getting this crap from.

He was made weak on purpose because he's a FREE character, he is the LOWEST fury growth rate, and has a terrible stat growth rate as a gold partner, it's not even gold quality. I've had HIGH stones on him. You haven't. I've tested him, he was BARELY hitting for what Rang does. You can tell that crap to some new player who don't know what they are talking about but not a top player who goes out of their way to min/max partners and actually researches what's worth a damn and what's not. What next are you going to be one of "those guys" who says Yachiru is a good VG? lol. Get real.

Glasglow

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-30 02:10
No he's not lol...he's crap. I had high stones on him, his damage rate is crap. His dmg on his fury ...

Oh wow, you are such a kid, don't know how they let people like you become moderators.

Aight, conversation over, keep pumping thousands of $$ into this game, since obviously thats the only way you can compete with others, if you have the mentality of a 15 year old.


Grow up mate.

EDIT: A well stoned Ichigo hits the assaulter line for well over 10k in the lv50~70 range, which is about 30% of the assaulter line's HP.

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Glasglow replied at 2014-9-30 02:13
Oh wow, you are such a kid, don't know how they let people like you become moderators.

Aight, conv ...

Because you go off the wall and claim crap that's not true. That's what sets me off. People acting like they know what they are talking about when it's been proven otherwise. It's your opinion he is better, but their is plenty of proof he's not. Anyone would laugh at what you just said that he's the best Assaulter in game.
Also I love how I prove people wrong and all of a sudden "I'm a child and shouldn't be mod". You sir need to get over yourself. You are sounding like Purebeast.

Glasglow

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-30 02:16
Because you go off the wall and claim crap that's not true. That's what sets me off. People acting ...

Proven? there was a smart dude a long time ago on this forum, which said some true things, that i belittled in the past, because i was "smart", but he played on the CN server and knew his stuff.

I have personally battled against people whose ichigo did 18k damage per hit, which was 50% of my assaulter's hp at the time, and you'll be telling me he is useless, okay.

You know who is useless? Renji, since he does 3 damage to komamura, how amazing is that?
Anyways go ahead and live in your dream world, not sure what kind of "testing" you did, but obviously if you can't do math, you can't even test properly.

EDIT: And you are a child, you act like a snob, not in a very mature way at all. Sorry to say.
And what is more sad is that, the Moderator title you have under your name, is just for show, i haven't seen you do ANYTHING on this forum, that a Moderator should be doing, did you get the title by chance because you spend 500$ weekly on this game? Hope not. Because we could use a real Moderator on this forum that can clean up the bodybuilding and weight loss topics.

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Glasglow replied at 2014-9-30 02:18
Proven? there was a smart dude a long time ago on this forum, which said some true things, that i b ...

Then that Renji is not stoned right, period. He has either low break defense stones, and combined with low Str stones.

In the same gear, and same stones, Renji will out damage Ichigo 100% of the time, every round. If an Ichigo is hitting you for 18k, then they have higher stones than you, plain and simple. Our 10th ranked person who don't even play anymore (221k BP), has over 70k HP on partners and over 100k on VG. That' 10-18k dmg isn't going to do anything. Fights last again, 2-3 rounds mid to late, if both are even. So he might get them to what, half? Wow I guess.

Point is, as I said, Renji does more damage, round for round than Ichigo can or will at any point with the same gear. As I SAID, I've had the same gear on both of them, Ichifo would hit 7-8k with his fury attack, his first normal atk was laughable. Renji would crit on his fury atk hitting 11k EACH time, and it's what, 6 attacks? So 66k dmg on his fury attack, on a VG. ichigo did 7-8k....say he hit VG 7k, 2 assaulers 7k, and 2 supports 7k each. That's 35k dmg or so. It would take him TWO turns to equal out Renji's damage from ONE fury attack. Renji will get a 30% inc dmg normal hit that next round, while Ichigo would use his fury to equal out the damage from Renji's first fury attack, by then the fight's over, or Renji would get to use his fury attack again, this time with a full 30% dmg buff, and hitting more than the VG who should be dead by then. So what, say VG is dead now and Renji hits both assaulters with fury attack, that's 66kish dmg to both of them. They are dead. End of story.
As for mod, that's funny, because others say I do nothing BUT help, infact, you've even taken up for me in one of purebeasts threads, about how I do a good job. So say what you want, I don't really care, just get your facts straight first.

Glasglow

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-30 02:31
Then that Renji is not stoned right, period. He has either low break defense stones, and combined  ...

Like i said princess, most people don't throw money at the screen for this game.
You say poorly stonned because you have lv9 stones in your Renji, most people can't even get lv5 stones.
And oh god, are you for real? Are you comparing damage that Renji does to Ichigo, how many times do i have to repeat that Ichigo is a PvP partner for specific compositions, just like Lisa, and not a PvE partner, you are comparing nothing, because there is nothing to compare, when they have different functions.

Seriously dude, just keep quiet.

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Glasglow replied at 2014-9-30 02:33
Like i said princess, most people don't throw money at the screen for this game.
You say poorly st ...

He had lvl 5/6 str stones when I was using him ffs. That was a month + ago.

And the comparison was them in the SAME gear, SAME stones. I used both at the same time for awhile till I got Ikkaku at 80. I know exactly how shitty Ichigo was compaired to Renji. I used Ichigo till 80, and Renji till I decided to replace him with another support.
And I'm compairing them for PvP, Renji is miles and miles better than Ichigo. Renji does more damage, in PvP. Period, Ichigo would need WAY WAY higher stones to outdamage a Renji, which would be pointless to give those stones to Ichigo instead of Renji. Nobody is going to agree with you on this so give it up. Ichigo is not the best assaulter in the game, for PvP, he's certainly not better than Renji, regardless of comp.

Glasglow

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-30 02:38
He had lvl 5/6 str stones when I was using him ffs. That was a month + ago.

And the comparison w ...

Look, this is getting pointless and out of control, lets not argue anymore since the topic is getting spammed with useless shit.

We have a difference of opinion and different experience with the same partner, i had him and he did great, i saw him and he did great, end of story - you maybe, didn't have as much success with him.

Also ichigo in lv60/80 Ultimate gear, will like two shot the enemy assaulter line.