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author: MylarHyrule time: 2018-2-12 13:58:38 Title: Your thoughts...

Edited by MylarHyrule at 2018-2-12 14:12

Currently running a 0-2-3 formation with RJ...
Main, Muken, Retsu K, Tenjiro, Shinso

considering dropping retsu for someone else...  currently saving for UBP, considering bringing in either a vanguard (TSI,already owned and leveled to 159) or someone...  not 100% sure...

if I bring in TSI, I'll need a third assaulter for events...  Sexy Yourichi is built up and paid off...  Resurection Ulquorria is there too, not built as nice as I wanted, but he's probably gonna do better in Void honestly

not sure what to do here... any ideas?  will post pics this evening when I get home of the team in case you want them

author: MylarHyrule time: 2018-2-12 13:59:40

Edited by MylarHyrule at 2018-2-12 19:22

as promised... here are the pics of my current team and the folks I have in reserve... not all of the peeps in reserve are paid off mind you...
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looking to replace Retsu K as my ES and Ryoka damage are both golden and ATM I'm looking to improve PVP more...

TSI is looking like a solid choice IMO... Rajin, Shin Isshin, Yama, and B Rukia are not paid off, although Shin Isshin is cheap enough I'd probably be willing to pick him up (even though I think I could do better)

and ideas would be welcomed for sure, weather I use them or not

Thanks in advance!!

also working to pick up Ultima Aizen and should be able to pick him up fairly quickly, and also have 3k vit saved up so far for UBP

author: MylarHyrule time: 2018-2-13 09:53:26

Anyone care for a bump?

bwahahahaha

author: shirakawa2007 time: 2018-2-13 10:27:20

Bump. Huge Muken you get there... Does Res Ulquiorra's ignite works in pve? Honestly can't remember... If so, he can be your third assaulter... Sorry for my english, isn't my first language

author: trojandrew time: 2018-2-13 10:47:47

Shin isshin is definitely worth it to combo muken. Depending on how far you are in getting him from karakura event I'd just swap him for yoru till then.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2018-2-13 11:46:24

shirakawa2007 replied at 2018-2-13 10:27
Bump. Huge Muken you get there... Does Res Ulquiorra's ignite works in pve? Honestly can't remember. ...

thanks bro... yeah it does, but I feel RJ's burn would be stronger without Ulquorria (as RJ's burn would be based off everyone's damage, including that huge Muken)

author: MylarHyrule time: 2018-2-13 11:47:37

trojandrew replied at 2018-2-13 10:47
Shin isshin is definitely worth it to combo muken. Depending on how far you are in getting him from ...

Shin Isshin was for sure my first choice, not messed up about spending some green on him, but honestly, I probably will just get the free weeks on him just in case I pick up a Yhwach or someone from UBP, lol tired of wasting money, know what I mean?

author: trojandrew time: 2018-2-13 12:27:26

MylarHyrule replied at 2018-2-13 11:47
Shin Isshin was for sure my first choice, not messed up about spending some green on him, but hone ...

ya, im actually just readjusting my alts team every time i dont have him on hire lol. just waiting until i get him and i'll finally go 1-3-1 (was 2-3-0 but now that tsi is coming i cant pass him up)

author: Asian123 time: 2018-2-13 12:59:37

For PVP, you definitely need a vanguard. Fortunate enough for you that you have TSI. I'd suggest Noza though since TSI is an offensive vanguard like Starrk while Noza is more of both offensive and defensive due to his blocking potential.
I am using Noza myself as a side partner and he is doing pretty well in my opinion.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2018-2-13 13:20:43

Asian123 replied at 2018-2-13 12:59
For PVP, you definitely need a vanguard. Fortunate enough for you that you have TSI. I'd suggest Noz ...

my Noza was for sure a beast, but I can easily get my TSI's block rate up to 165ish (once I re-mod him) without sacrificing anything on anyone else and especially with that defense boost from my RJ, that healing mod should more than make up for that extra 30+% I would get on Noza I'd wager

author: Asian123 time: 2018-2-13 13:51:31

MylarHyrule replied at 2018-2-13 19:20
my Noza was for sure a beast, but I can easily get my TSI's block rate up to 165ish (once I re-mod ...

Well, whichever you prefer is fine...

author: MylarHyrule time: 2018-2-13 14:58:01

Asian123 replied at 2018-2-13 13:51
Well, whichever you prefer is fine...

well thank you for the permission, lol

just breaking balls bro... just breaking balls...

truth be told, I'm not sure which of them I'll use, but TSI is probably the winner

author: EternalNatsu time: 2018-2-13 17:07:00

Well I mean your Noza comes with a high block overall where as you have to spend some green on that RNG of increasing block rate on TSI. Since you already have pure damage from your Muken and, even that back line why not save yourself some extra green by going with your Noza. We all know how much you loved using him and, now that you have an awesome looking team he'd be a great addition just for that block damage and, stun.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2018-2-13 17:15:11

EternalNatsu replied at 2018-2-13 17:07
Well I mean your Noza comes with a high block overall where as you have to spend some green on that ...

... hmmmm once I mod either one the block mods will be there already (takes some work but i know how to keep them at what they were more or less) you do make a good point there... and if I get lucky with an Isane Kotetsu from UBP, that would replace that mod from TSI... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

author: easymoney2906 time: 2018-2-13 17:24:54

MylarHyrule replied at 2018-2-13 17:15
... hmmmm once I mod either one the block mods will be there already (takes some work but i kno ...

Use Noza whole game will have TSI soon

author: MylarHyrule time: 2018-2-13 17:35:08

easymoney2906 replied at 2018-2-13 17:24
Use Noza whole game will have TSI soon

I know when I dropped Noza for TSI I got a huge gain in power... but I didn't have Muken or RJ then... I can't believe I'm considering picking up Noza over TSI ATM... like really Mylar?!?!?

author: easymoney2906 time: 2018-2-13 17:54:27

MylarHyrule replied at 2018-2-13 17:35
I know when I dropped Noza for TSI I got a huge gain in power... but I didn't have Muken or RJ th ...

You have already Noza why spend gold on TSI lease. You have Jakka and Muken, you need defensive VG, you won't have any use of offensive VG while you stack Muken. VG is there to cover your Muken and rest of team now. Rather focus on pvp supporter who will buff your Muken. Shy Nemu was great as her skill goes nice with 25% attack that RJ gives.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2018-2-13 18:17:33

easymoney2906 replied at 2018-2-13 17:54
You have already Noza why spend gold on TSI lease. You have Jakka and Muken, you need defensive VG, ...

my TSI is paid off already is the only reason he's even on the table

author: easymoney2906 time: 2018-2-13 18:30:33

MylarHyrule replied at 2018-2-13 18:17
my TSI is paid off already is the only reason he's even on the table

Well you can use him then, tho Noza has silence in his skill that could help vs other Mukens sometimes.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2018-2-13 19:32:48

easymoney2906 replied at 2018-2-13 18:30
Well you can use him then, tho Noza has silence in his skill that could help vs other Mukens somet ...

I decided to go with Noza... gawd does he need work, lol with no mods on him I got his block rate up to 112% already... I think I'm gonna work on him hard till I get him where I want him... however even as anemiec as he is, I'm glad to have a vang in there again...

author: MylarHyrule time: 2018-2-13 20:08:20

EternalNatsu replied at 2018-2-13 17:07
Well I mean your Noza comes with a high block overall where as you have to spend some green on that ...

stacking up my Muken so hard and swapping to a 0-2-3 for a while really hurt my str stone game on everyone but Muken, lol... got more mod swapping to do, and more modding to do but he should end up over 200% block rate quite easily... he needs more stones and that is one of my primary concerns on him ATM... just brought him back today so he should grow quite quickly if i'm honest...

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author: EternalNatsu time: 2018-2-13 22:45:58

MylarHyrule replied at 2018-2-13 20:08
stacking up my Muken so hard and swapping to a 0-2-3 for a while really hurt my str stone game on ...

Good news to hear man. I can't wait to see your Noza back in action like the ole golden days and, with a Muken backing him as your damage it's gonna be interesting to hear about.

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-2-13 22:55:42

I would prefer TSI over Noza.

No, don't bother wasting time on Ultima Aizen.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2018-2-14 13:13:02

DeEmEn replied at 2018-2-13 22:55
I would prefer TSI over Noza.

No, don't bother wasting time on Ultima Aizen.

yeah... I was quite sure ultima aizen was just to kill time... wasn't gonna put much/any work in him if i got him before I picked up something from UBP

and for the TSI vs Noza thing... I just knew I could block MUCH more than TSI with Noza... add RJ's def buff to that and I would be able to tank MUCH more with Noza than TSI with reliabliitity... and in VOID, I was gonna pull Hit stones off of all but Muken and see what happened to the damage (a bastardization of one of your suggestions honestly)

author: theunknown404 time: 2018-2-14 15:27:47

Top-up for Byakuya

author: MylarHyrule time: 2018-2-14 15:35:19

theunknown404 replied at 2018-2-14 15:27
Top-up for Byakuya

dude... if only I could, lol

author: MylarHyrule time: 2018-2-14 19:31:30

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US

just gonna leave this here... he's got a beautiful team for sure!!

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-2-14 19:40:22

MylarHyrule replied at 2018-2-14 11:13
yeah... I was quite sure ultima aizen was just to kill time... wasn't gonna put much/any work in ...

Block isn't a big deal, honestly... especially with a lot of partners nowadays are attacking all... Plus, the amount of work you put into Aizen, you won't have much to offer on the VG. So the block doesnt hurt as much. But in terms of skills, exclusive or normal TSI, the buff+debuff is still better than Noza. How much work do you think your block will do against enemy vs. a skill that will damage all enemies for you.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2018-2-14 20:49:25

DeEmEn replied at 2018-2-14 19:40
Block isn't a big deal, honestly... especially with a lot of partners nowadays are attacking all.. ...

I feel Noza will live longer than TSI... he already survives almost as long as Muken does for many fights... with RJ, survival is a weapon in and of itself. TSI might well have been the better choice, however I have to disagree with you on one point... block DOES mean a great deal... a blocked hit only deals like 10% of the damage a non-blocked one does... 200+% block rate matched with RJ's def buff makes Noza VERY hard to kill with physical attacks, even with his anemic stones and that block rate also applies to kido damage as well, effectively raising the crap out of his kido def as well... something that TSI would have trouble with, and as you know, kido damage is something you MUST deal with these days

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-2-14 20:56:39

MylarHyrule replied at 2018-2-14 18:49
I feel Noza will live longer than TSI... he already survives almost as long as Muken does for man ...

Multilate will kill your VG regardless of block. Doesn't matter if you have 200% block.

Yes, VG needs to deal with kido attack. But here's the thing... so does Supports... they need to deal with Physical Damage. With so many people stacking their Muken, I doubt they are well guarded physically... for their supports. As long as you cant take out their supports, your team will die for sure.

Noza can't even reach enemy supports, and if the enemy have RJ too, your Noza will be a dead meat.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2018-2-14 21:02:27

Edited by MylarHyrule at 2018-2-14 21:06

DeEmEn replied at 2018-2-14 20:56
Multilate will kill your VG regardless of block. Doesn't matter if you have 200% block.

Yes, VG n ...

and I do see your point, but I just feel that I will get more bang for the buck from Noza as he will not be a stacked vanguard... and for a good support, I am saving for UBP and am honestly hoping for Isane Kotetsu, or someone like Rajin Yourichi (the first orange one that will show up, my prophecy) to get more speed and a more consistent first strike.
**edit**
and as a VERY experienced Noza user, I can tell you from first hand experience, if he's not overpowered and shat on, Noza's damage can for sure reach that back row easily... in fact, let me be frank about it... block damage is probably the best damage in the game I have came across except for mutulate, and with RJ there, that is a given as well...

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-2-14 21:11:04

MylarHyrule replied at 2018-2-14 19:02
and I do see your point, but I just feel that I will get more bang for the buck from Noza as he wil ...

Yeah I haven't used a VG for a long time, but when I had Noza, I just hate him so much because of his lack of power. Block will be powerful, but since you aren't stacking it, then block would be useless.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2018-2-14 21:46:55

DeEmEn replied at 2018-2-14 21:11
Yeah I haven't used a VG for a long time, but when I had Noza, I just hate him so much because of ...

block was more for defense than for offensive output, although the extra offense won't piss me off in the least, lol... plus I'm expecting more and more peeps to go to KS so the mutulate might become less of an issue... and if they don't swap, I possibly will

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-2-14 23:15:55

MylarHyrule replied at 2018-2-14 19:46
block was more for defense than for offensive output, although the extra offense won't piss me off ...

That's mean your team will have to be slow if you gonna use KS

author: MylarHyrule time: 2018-2-15 01:19:33

DeEmEn replied at 2018-2-14 23:15
That's mean your team will have to be slow if you gonna use KS

ATM Tenjiro is my fastest partner at just under 1M speed... compared to anyone close to me in my CSB I'm a freaking snail, lol

I"ve got a Muken around me outspeeding my Tenjiro, lol

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-2-15 01:34:47

MylarHyrule replied at 2018-2-14 23:19
ATM Tenjiro is my fastest partner at just under 1M speed... compared to anyone close to me in m ...

lol, stack him on speed!

author: MylarHyrule time: 2018-2-15 08:09:35

DeEmEn replied at 2018-2-15 01:34
lol, stack him on speed!

my biggest problem with speed is before now, Shinso was my fastest partner so my best speed hogu ATM is tier 11 (and being I was running Hyorin I had no illusion of being super speedy) and currently I"m leveling a tier 13 str hogu for Muken... then I'll turn my other quincy hogu to speed and level it... long story short, I'm working on it, lol

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-2-15 19:24:49

MylarHyrule replied at 2018-2-15 06:09
my biggest problem with speed is before now, Shinso was my fastest partner so my best speed hogu AT ...

what about hogyoku and accessories?

author: MylarHyrule time: 2018-2-15 19:40:17

DeEmEn replied at 2018-2-15 19:24
what about hogyoku and accessories?

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he needs some love for sure, but he's comming along nicely IMO

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