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author: trojandrew time: 2019-1-21 22:57:17 Title: Question on New Void

As of right now i went from being a top 4 to barely getting 1k gold per hit. Im wondering what all has changed and what one needs to do to overcome it?

do i need a minimum of 2M attack on an assaulter? Do you need a special formation?

Im trying to figure out how i can get back to atleast doing some damage.

author: YoungsterJoey time: 2019-1-21 23:37:16

overcome it with more $$$

author: theunknown404 time: 2019-1-22 00:17:56

You need a high-attack assaulter with attack buffs that can penetrate 3 million defense or you need a character that can ignore defense. That's about the size of it.

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-22 01:37:25

YoungsterJoey replied at 2019-1-21 21:37
overcome it with more $$$

Please refrain yourself from trolling when people are asking serious questions.

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-22 01:39:40

There are many partners that will buff your attack in different ways, especially when they are lowering their atk and speed on the next version of void. It will be easier to survive and you can use more variety of partners to do damage in void region.

author: jackthehorn time: 2019-1-22 01:54:10

Best is to get kokuto and HVI and work on them. You wont even have to to worry later on if they change void again or make it any stronger.

Edit: and BWB after you are done with those 2.

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-22 01:58:06

jackthehorn replied at 2019-1-21 23:54
Best is to get kokuto and HVI and work on them. You wont even have to to worry later on if they chan ...

Mind you, kokuto's atk + dmg rate buff doesn't work on HVI in void. Also, HVI exclusive ignores atk buff. But it's being fixed right now.

author: jackthehorn time: 2019-1-22 02:37:49

DeEmEn replied at 2019-1-22 07:58
Mind you, kokuto's atk + dmg rate buff doesn't work on HVI in void. Also, HVI exclusive ignores atk ...

Oh for buff i put it on BWB, it was for lowering defense that i said kokuto.

author: adnane.bek time: 2019-1-22 02:46:33

when u say 1k gold u mean dmg right?

if so tune ur team around 0 fury starter and avoid attak all the team to use jakka debuff if u have it u'll need a zan dot

here is BR

http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... ;t=1&lang=fr_FR

goodluck

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-22 03:08:40

jackthehorn replied at 2019-1-22 00:37
Oh for buff i put it on BWB, it was for lowering defense that i said kokuto.

lowering def won't work anymore cuz of clearing debuff.

author: jackthehorn time: 2019-1-22 04:06:42

DeEmEn replied at 2019-1-22 09:08
lowering def won't work anymore cuz of clearing debuff.

Only if you hit them twice.

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-22 20:08:47

jackthehorn replied at 2019-1-22 02:06
Only if you hit them twice.

nope, I hit them once, they immediately clear my debuff.

author: jackthehorn time: 2019-1-22 23:19:37

DeEmEn replied at 2019-1-23 02:08
nope, I hit them once, they immediately clear my debuff.

Then according to that the dots are cleared as soon as attached upon attack. But as you can see from BR of adnane zan's dot sticks so as well the skill's debuffs and dots should stick.
Poison sticks if you dont attack the back supporters. Hence dmg like rujin's burn.

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-23 01:15:01

jackthehorn replied at 2019-1-22 21:19
Then according to that the dots are cleared as soon as attached upon attack. But as you can see fr ...

If your kokuto don't skills an attack, how can it lower def? =.=

author: jackthehorn time: 2019-1-23 01:36:48

DeEmEn replied at 2019-1-23 07:15
If your kokuto don't skills an attack, how can it lower def? =.=

Only 1 character skills. And others can dmg VG. Did you look at the BR, its the same strategy just using kokuto. Using HVI will fail the strategy since he skills without fury.

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-23 01:45:10

jackthehorn replied at 2019-1-22 23:36
Only 1 character skills. And others can dmg VG. Did you look at the BR, its the same strategy just ...

As soon as Kokuto skills, and does damage. The debuff immediately comes off. Don't just look at the BR. I am speaking from exp, as I have Kokuto myself.

author: XSuperSaiyanX time: 2019-1-23 03:53:02

jackthehorn replied at 2019-1-22 01:54
Best is to get kokuto and HVI and work on them. You wont even have to to worry later on if they chan ...

worse thing to do is base your damage on hvi for void.hes by far the worse assaulter on void since most of his buffs from mods and skills dont work.never never go hvi-kokuto on this void.

author: jackthehorn time: 2019-1-23 05:13:30

DeEmEn replied at 2019-1-23 07:45
As soon as Kokuto skills, and does damage. The debuff immediately comes off. Don't just look at th ...

I know your formation very well, same as kaia sin. Always look out for monsters in my CSB

If it comes off immediately then how come zan's debuff stuck? Also Kokuto skills-->does dmg--> Def. reduce debuff attached.
Since debuffs come later after skill dmg is done.

author: jackthehorn time: 2019-1-23 05:15:41

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2019-1-23 09:53
worse thing to do is base your damage on hvi for void.hes by far the worse assaulter on void since ...

Askin was god for void when he came out, same as HVI. But ever since the new mods for void its useless.
Only raw power can do any dmg. Like top monsters does who have 2-3 partners above 2 mil attack.

author: rugalb666 time: 2019-1-23 06:57:18

jackthehorn replied at 2019-1-23 11:13
I know your formation very well, same as kaia sin. Always look out for monsters in my CSB
If ...

I don't know if the property was the same, for the look of it in the BR it was "remove debuff from self when attacked" because the Kenpachi mob removed only his own burn after being attacked, but now it is "removed debuff from ally when attacked". Beside I think zan skill is not considered "being attacked"

author: jackthehorn time: 2019-1-23 11:26:59

rugalb666 replied at 2019-1-23 12:57
I don't know if the property was the same, for the look of it in the BR it was "remove debuff from ...

Actually it does, Zan skill is an attack. Otherwise some mods on some extraordinary characters in game working due to zan atack will be considered as bug and we dont have that kind of bug.

author: rugalb666 time: 2019-1-23 11:37:33

jackthehorn replied at 2019-1-23 17:26
Actually it does, Zan skill is an attack. Otherwise some mods on some extraordinary characters in ...

normally mods that can be triggered by zan are worded "when receiving damage" it is different from "when being attacked"

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-23 19:24:36

jackthehorn replied at 2019-1-23 03:13
I know your formation very well, same as kaia sin. Always look out for monsters in my CSB
If ...

and it disappeared right after before the next partner moves.

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-23 19:25:39

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2019-1-23 01:53
worse thing to do is base your damage on hvi for void.hes by far the worse assaulter on void since ...

it's being fixed right now

author: jackthehorn time: 2019-1-24 02:18:00

rugalb666 replied at 2019-1-23 17:37
normally mods that can be triggered by zan are worded "when receiving damage" it is different from ...

Ah the word problem, that is good way to differentiate things. Will look out for those.

author: jackthehorn time: 2019-1-24 02:19:20

DeEmEn replied at 2019-1-24 01:24
and it disappeared right after before the next partner moves.

Hmm will see in todays void. Going to use mains skill of lowering def. instead of combo.

author: shadowfane time: 2019-1-24 13:43:30

Yeah DeEmen you prob have everyone that's needed to do damage now just like you wanted and pushed for. How much did your place increase with the changes to void.

author: Aratron time: 2019-1-24 18:41:56

Edited by Aratron at 2019-1-25 01:50

DeEmEn replied at 2019-1-22 08:37
Please refrain yourself from trolling when people are asking serious questions.

but he is correct. The easiest way is just to buy your status like you...

this game nowadays is all about who is gonna buy more OP characters and just stack them with all that bonus stuff from top-up.. you don't need brain at all just money and nobody can't get on that level there is no way...

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-24 19:31:18

Aratron replied at 2019-1-24 16:41
but he is correct. The easiest way is just to buy your status like you...

this game nowadays is al ...

lol yeah ok, you can keep thinking that. You can't simply by your status... Keep assuming. Maybe to your limited knowledge sure...

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-24 19:33:09

shadowfane replied at 2019-1-24 11:43
Yeah DeEmen you prob have everyone that's needed to do damage now just like you wanted and pushed fo ...

I always have what's normally to do damage. Sorry, but my place never changed. Even I do less damage myself. The people share your mindset are simply ridiculous.

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-24 19:40:48

jackthehorn replied at 2019-1-24 00:19
Hmm will see in todays void. Going to use mains skill of lowering def. instead of combo.

We will see lol.

author: jackthehorn time: 2019-1-24 22:50:55

adnane.bek replied at 2019-1-22 08:46
when u say 1k gold u mean dmg right?

if so tune ur team around 0 fury starter and avoid attak all ...

You posting this BR gave so many people ideas, now all those with RJ are doing dmg who werent doing before.

So question how does RJ's burn stick but ashi's poison dont?

author: jackthehorn time: 2019-1-24 22:53:04

DeEmEn replied at 2019-1-25 01:40
We will see lol.

I dont know if it main's skill stuck as i checked BR and didnt found the icon( may be visual bug) but i did do dmg. now. very little though.

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-24 23:30:13

jackthehorn replied at 2019-1-24 20:53
I dont know if it main's skill stuck as i checked BR and didnt found the icon( may be visual bug) ...

not visual bug, the debuff really got cleared.

author: theunknown404 time: 2019-1-25 01:05:13

jackthehorn replied at 2019-1-24 22:50
You posting this BR gave so many people ideas, now all those with RJ are doing dmg who werent doin ...

Buggy goodness, I guessssss

author: jackthehorn time: 2019-1-25 01:23:19

theunknown404 replied at 2019-1-25 07:05
Buggy goodness, I guessssss

That goodness is wildly biased to one zan then.

author: jackthehorn time: 2019-1-25 01:25:37

DeEmEn replied at 2019-1-25 05:30
not visual bug, the debuff really got cleared.

May be may be not, but i got into top 10 because of that.

Since you were late today But did tons of DMG (thanks to revive) in short time, you didnt see how much ranking line changed since last void.

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-25 01:57:04

jackthehorn replied at 2019-1-24 23:25
May be may be not, but i got into top 10 because of that.
Since you were late today Bu ...

I only revive a few times because I change formation and I hate waiting... I had to do some testing for the dev, had to make sure everything it was meant to set up properly, see if some bug fixed on some partners... clearing buff/debuff work properly and etc... There are tons of work for me everytime void happens. I wish I can just stick with 1 formation and just use autoclicker and relax in the back. Oh and revive in the end to secure final hit lol! Testing out something myself, see if different setting makes a difference. I really care less how ranking changes lol.

author: jackthehorn time: 2019-1-25 04:40:23

DeEmEn replied at 2019-1-25 07:57
I only revive a few times because I change formation and I hate waiting... I had to do some testing ...

Now i know why Devs didnt go for removing revive when we asked for it, in void. lol And waiting is a part of every game guess thats where vip status come in lol But test away find out how dots are still working from zan and its not just a visual bug, well i dont think its a bug there are already quite few that people mention lol....
And definitely yes different settings make a difference. Ofcourse rank 1 doesnt need to care about how the ranking changes but my point was there are people who are dealing dmg who couldnt before, nice thing that void changed.

author: Rokianas time: 2019-1-25 17:10:25

Easy way is still to use DoT.
But you need to figure out how not to cancel it before enemies get dmg from it.
That's all i'm gonna say, not giving up the way of doing it, just use some brain and i'm sure you can figure it out ;)

author: adnane.bek time: 2019-1-25 17:57:21

jackthehorn replied at 2019-1-24 22:50
You posting this BR gave so many people ideas, now all those with RJ are doing dmg who werent doin ...

yo ; sorry just saw the post; thats a good question but i bet it is in the term when being attacked (if i remmber well) when using this term devs refer as a partner attak thus the zanpa is not concerned; however when receiving damage zan is included;

it is this or the other way around i dont remmber wich one is the one if u know what im trying to say

well regarding RJ team strat i have to give credit to some peeps in the french forum shangri and burnacid thks to them

author: trojandrew time: 2019-1-25 18:04:41

jackthehorn replied at 2019-1-24 22:50
You posting this BR gave so many people ideas, now all those with RJ are doing dmg who werent doin ...

wait, i think i missed something on the BR, so lower your speed to let the burn tick first before i get an attack off?

also who are you in csb? im yano if you need to see my formation. and sadly i dont think i can get my muken any stronger other than waiting for asauchi to upgrade his gear.

but on the 0-2-3 form, should i go with a 2-4 bonus on gear for muken instead of a 6 piece? not sure if it would help or not

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-25 19:23:50

jackthehorn replied at 2019-1-25 02:40
Now i know why Devs didnt go for removing revive when we asked for it, in void. lol And waiting is ...

remember that the damage in void changed... it has been lowered from 3m to 1.5m... so I am not surprise when some people can now do some more dmg.

author: jackthehorn time: 2019-1-26 00:23:09

adnane.bek replied at 2019-1-25 23:57
yo ; sorry just saw the post; thats a good question but i bet it is in the term when being attacke ...

Ah no problem figured you were enjoying your week with work

I see but if it works for RJ then ashi's poison should also stick ah whatever, i found another way to do dmg now. And it is the way you were saying what was said earlier...you know what i am trying to say right

Oh i will get on the french forum when i get on the account of your friends. I guess people are trying to figure out how to do DMG when they dont have enough RAW POWER to deal it like monsters do.

author: jackthehorn time: 2019-1-26 00:28:42

Edited by jackthehorn at 2019-1-26 06:34

trojandrew replied at 2019-1-26 00:04
wait, i think i missed something on the BR, so lower your speed to let the burn tick first before ...

I know your formation your muken is too strong and too damn fast already. Mine is slower as i changes to 2-4 gear formation for dmg increase and yes it works sometimes now. Yano Tarao right? rank 8 or 9 now? But you already have Tutski so no need to change formation.

And yes as BR suggested do that and you will do zan's dot dmg again.

author: jackthehorn time: 2019-1-26 00:33:15

DeEmEn replied at 2019-1-26 01:23
remember that the damage in void changed... it has been lowered from 3m to 1.5m... so I am not sur ...

Yes may be may not, i saw the last void stats, Yhwach's had 3m def of both and 100K speed. I thought speed was lowered to 50K?

author: adnane.bek time: 2019-1-26 09:00:41

jackthehorn replied at 2019-1-26 00:23
Ah no problem figured you were enjoying your week with work

I see but if it works for RJ then a ...

goodluck translating that lol ;

so jizo poison doestn work? imma try next time if so then they did a sepcial development so they keep only jakka burn and poison no; however even with jakka if u put a partner that attks all they will clear the burn also;

oh well void is fuked no logic give me some tequilla

good weekend

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-26 14:43:36

jackthehorn replied at 2019-1-25 22:33
Yes may be may not, i saw the last void stats, Yhwach's had 3m def of both and 100K speed. I thoug ...

50k 100k not much diff... this should actually benefits those that rely on DoT.

not maybe, its definitely yes lol. it's so much easier to survive.

author: jackthehorn time: 2019-1-26 15:34:28

adnane.bek replied at 2019-1-26 15:00
goodluck translating that lol ;

so jizo poison doestn work? imma try next time if so then they d ...

Yes try the poison out and tell if it works?
Try some vodka. Its better to burn with purity.

Had a great saturday dont know if will see the sunday half

good weekend you too

author: jackthehorn time: 2019-1-26 15:35:36

DeEmEn replied at 2019-1-26 20:43
50k 100k not much diff... this should actually benefits those that rely on DoT.

not maybe, its de ...

it makes a great diff. to the new players.

Hmm only monsters survive who have lvl 12 stamina stones on all partners or least defending ones.

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-26 17:49:07

Edited by DeEmEn at 2019-1-26 17:23

jackthehorn replied at 2019-1-26 13:35
it makes a great diff. to the new players.

Hmm only monsters survive who have lvl 12 stamina ston ...

To new players... they won't be playing void... and if they reach to lvl 100 and still not getting over 100k speed. They are playing this game wrong.
it's not just the stones... in order to survive void with 3mil atk. It's a combine effort with your team and equipment and etc...

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