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author: Glasglow time: 2014-8-17 19:19:03 Title: [Event] Ultimate BP TLDR + Math

Edited by Glasglow at 2014-8-17 20:28

Basically, to answer all your questions about the event.

Stages under lv10 give 3 crystals, stages level 50 give 3~5 crystals, i am not sure how many crystals you get higher, but as was said by people from the CN version, you can get up to 7 crystals in the higher stages.

You get vitality by default at the rate of 3 every 30 minutes, which means that in 24 hours, you will get 144 vitality, add 6x6 from your girlfriend, thats 180 and 50 from the daily minigame, thats 230 vitality daily, without having to buy it with coupons/gold.

So it ends up like 10x230+150 = 2450 free vitality you can have in 10 event days.

2450x4/5/6/7 = 9800/12250/14700/17150 crystals, depending on each character's level respectively.
2850x4/5/6/7 = 11400/14250/17100/19950 crystals , depending on character level + the restaurant event.

The rest you have to buy with coupons/gold if you want to have a chance at getting rukia.

Unless i missed some way of getting extra vitality , meh go figure, but either way, you have to spend aproximatevily 4500 gold/coupons to get enough for rukia if you are getting 4 crystals per try.

For people who are higher level, respectively you will need less, depending how many crystals you got, luck also plays a factor in this, because you will not always get the same amount of crystals and sometimes, you will not get any crystals at all.
4 crystals per stage = 4500 gold spent on VIT.
5 crystals per stage = 3300gold spent on VIT.
6 crystals per stage = 2500 gold spent on VIT.
7 crystals per stage = 1900 gold spent on VIT. (VIP 8 minimal requirement)
or if the restaurant even last long enough as the event does
4 crystals per stage = 4260 gold spent on VIT.
5 crystals per stage = 3030 gold spent on VIT.
6 crystals per stage = 2210 gold spent on VIT.
7 crystals per stage = 1620 gold spent on VIT. (VIP 8 minimal requirement)

In the end, you might be able to get rukia if you are lv70~80+ and get high crystal drops, but the number is a variable so in the end, you have to rely on blind luck.
VIP 10 can buy VIT 12 times per day x30 VIT = 360 VIT daily if i'm not mistaken x10 days = 3600 VIT
If you are high enough level, and lucky, you will have to buy less VIT than 3600.

Out of these numbers, assuming you are VIP 8~10 and you are high level enough to get 6-7 crystals per fight, you will be able to get rukia if you get high amount of crystals aka luck.
But reallistically speaking, there is no way you will get 7 crystals each fight, to fit into the 1900 gold calculations and VIP 8 minimal requirement.
The realistical variant would be, getting 5-6 crystals per fight on average, which would end up you having to spend somewhere inbetween 2500~3300 gold on VIT. which means that, you need to buy that much VIT in 10 days 2500~3500/10=250~330 vit daily, plus being lv70~80+

Meh, go figure.

In the end, i figured out, that you have to fit into the 6 crystals per stage = 2210 gold spent on VIT.And be VIP 9, to be able to get rukia, otherwise, your chances are slim of getting enough crystals by the end of the event.
Also, getting 6 crystals per stage, is probably impossible at this point in time, because i doubt many people are level 80+.
And even at 80+, i am not so sure that you can get the average of 6 crystals per fight.

Thats it, have fun guys~

author: lietoo time: 2014-8-17 19:30:46

well its says that there will be surprising gift pack on fifth day after the event starts , so you we dont know yet

author: Glasglow time: 2014-8-17 19:35:32

Actually i redid some math since i messed up a bit halfway and it seems possible to get rukia if you are really high level, like lv80 and you get lucky with crystals drops.

author: Glasglow time: 2014-8-17 19:45:26

lietoo replied at 2014-8-17 18:30
well its says that there will be surprising gift pack on fifth day after the event starts , so you w ...

Unless that giftpack is a donation of 30,000 crystals, then you shouldn't get your hopes up too high.

author: nieverland time: 2014-8-17 20:13:14

Glasglow replied at 2014-8-17 18:45
Unless that giftpack is a donation of 30,000 crystals, then you shouldn't get your hopes up too hi ...

you forgot 40 daily vit from baratie restaurant

author: Glasglow time: 2014-8-17 20:23:26

nieverland replied at 2014-8-17 19:13
you forgot 40 daily vit from baratie restaurant

Right, there is that, which i have no idea how long it'll last.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-17 20:48:58

Glasglow replied at 2014-8-17 19:23
Right, there is that, which i have no idea how long it'll last.

Thanks a lot for this guide/post ^^ Just a quick note. Every 3 days you get an additional 5 chances in Beauty Game which in total is 15 chances = 150 vit if it lasts for 10 days which it seems ^^

author: nieverland time: 2014-8-17 20:52:10

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-17 19:48
Thanks a lot for this guide/post ^^ Just a quick note. Every 3 days you get an additional 5 chance ...

Yep bro youre right thats 150 vit more

author: dragonstorm008 time: 2014-8-17 21:09:03

Edited by dragonstorm008 at 2014-8-18 23:04

I have noticed something, if you do auto battle,
you will get less crystals & sometimes not even get them.
However When I did manual battle, it dropped everytime.

Update: Scratch that broken auto battle...
Auto battle still gives crystals every battle, it just don't show it.
So its a Display Bug.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-17 21:19:05

Glasglow replied at 2014-8-17 19:23
Right, there is that, which i have no idea how long it'll last.

It's permanent. It was a bug when we lost it in the first place.

author: Glasglow time: 2014-8-17 21:23:40

Edited by Glasglow at 2014-8-17 20:29

nieverland replied at 2014-8-17 19:52
Yep bro youre right thats 150 vit more

That was already added into the calculations.

And even with that, you still need a minimal VIP 8 and 1620 gold to boot on VIT.
Because 1620 gold is 81 times buying VIT, and you need VIP 8 to buy it that much, VIP 7 is slightly short.

author: nieverland time: 2014-8-17 22:53:57

Glasglow replied at 2014-8-17 20:23
That was already added into the calculations.

And even with that, you still need a minimal VIP 8 a ...

yep i know

dont care about Rukia im aiming for the gifts

author: Chaotic123 time: 2014-8-17 22:55:32

from your calculation, possible for me to get dark rukia by not spending a gold, if you save vitality earlier

. saw azrial tip somewhere in the forum, and start saving my vitality since then. still have 30 chance of beauty game.
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author: Glasglow time: 2014-8-17 23:05:35

Chaotic123 replied at 2014-8-17 21:55
from your calculation, possible for me to get dark rukia by not spending a gold, if you save vitalit ...

Probably not, we are not talking about 200 vitality, you need thousands and the vitality cap is somewhere around 300 for a level 60+ character, or soething like that.

author: Chaotic123 time: 2014-8-17 23:09:56

Glasglow replied at 2014-8-17 22:05
Probably not, we are not talking about 200 vitality, you need thousands and the vitality cap is so ...

Yep, I saved 2843 vitality so far, left 35 beauty game (350 vit), plus 2850 you said. I will have 6043 vitality before the event end

author: Glasglow time: 2014-8-17 23:11:57

Chaotic123 replied at 2014-8-17 22:09
Yep, I saved 2843 vitality so far, left 35 beauty game (350 vit), plus 2850 you said. I will have ...

Well god bless you then and good luck with getting something.

author: Chaotic123 time: 2014-8-17 23:17:32

Glasglow replied at 2014-8-17 22:11
Well god bless you then and good luck with getting something.

Thanks, vitality doesn't have a cap by the way

. you can see my vit, [attach]843[/attach]

author: Glasglow time: 2014-8-17 23:20:16

Chaotic123 replied at 2014-8-17 22:17
Thanks, vitality doesn't have a cap by the way . you can see my vit,

It doesn't when you keep getting it for events or buying it, but once you pass for example 240/240, it will not automatically add up every 30 minutes.

author: Chaotic123 time: 2014-8-17 23:22:32

Glasglow replied at 2014-8-17 22:20
It doesn't when you keep getting it for events or buying it, but once you pass for example 240/240 ...

Yea, aside from to auto recovery, vit is able to accumulate by beauty game, restaurant, gf party etc. not only through spending gold.

author: magrox time: 2014-8-18 01:15:06

I get on average 4 crystals(3-5) at lvl 85.

author: fcalife time: 2014-8-18 01:21:15

Hello,

To add to this discussion, I will repost what I said in the main event post. Best of luck!

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Hello... I'd like to prove mathematically that Dark Rukia is impossible to win.

Daily, this is the vitality we can earn and use:

- 144 naturally (3 for each half hour of real time);
- 50 from beauty game (assuming 5 perfect runs);
- 16.67 from beauty game's bonus chances (50 every 3 days);
- 48 from Aoi (lv6 girlfriend, maximum obtainable currently if you are in server 1 and paid the huge, wasteful gold price for manor/gose upgrades)
- 360 from gold buying (only if you're VIP10 and buy vitality TWELVE times, totaling a daily spend of 840 GOLD)
- 40 from using soul cafe 2x/day.

You can also get a bit of vitality here and there from random stuff like dice throwing. Let's be very generous here and suppose you get to the 2000 gold reward every day - you might get about 31.3 vitality on average. So, we have:

680 maximum vitality we can spend per day. In ten days, that makes 6800. Let's say you had the foresight to stock up on vitality on the day before the event... at most, you could have 360 vitality stocked. So, you can spend 7160 vitality during the whole event.

Using all this vitality on single-vitality-consuming fights (that means 10 days of NO trial tower and NO bossfighting!), you will get, at my level (lv72), a rough average of 3.2 ice crystals per vitality spent (20% chance of getting no ice crystals, 80% chance of getting 3/4/5 ice crystals, with an even chance of each result - rough results of my testing).

Let's, again, be VERY generous, and assume that this reward grows with levels (I'm not sure this happens, but let's assume it, just for the sake of argument): say you get, on average, 4 crystals per vitality spent, at most.

This means that, at the end of the event, we will have, at most, 4*7160 = 28640 ice crystals - far from the 37000 required for Dark Rukia.

Let me stress again that this is a BEST OF THE BEST possible situation, at great daily expense, and will very probably NOT happen to anyone, in any server. As such, unless we get new sources of ice crystals or vitality, this event is a pointless run for a carrot on the end of an unreachable stick.

Until you enlighten us on how to make the event "winnable", I will not invest a single dime more in this game.

Best regards!

- Blaze Akari
US server #23

author: itsmeblen time: 2014-8-18 02:41:43

this is fucking hilarious ... so we need to get 4111 spirit crystal a day to get rukia??? so how many matches??? i get 3-4 spirit crystal every match ...so i need 1027 match per day to get that requirment?? i am a free user only...

author: SilvaBalls time: 2014-8-18 03:03:33

In the end, it's just silver cards and some spirit stones.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-18 03:05:36

let me be blunt! i'd rather buy all my gold/coupon in spirit stone than putting it all in this "dark rukia" if you have a strong recruit but weak on item its nonsense. id rather have a weak recruit but strong in item so that i can beat players that are stronger than me.. but its just my suggestion

author: itsmeblen time: 2014-8-18 03:23:37

then how about strong recruit and strong items??

remember dark rukia is only limited... items are not

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-18 03:34:41

Glasglow replied at 2014-8-17 20:23
That was already added into the calculations.

And even with that, you still need a minimal VIP 8 a ...

What? I'm VIP 9 and it's 640 gold to buy Vit up 10 times a day....not sure where you are getting 1620 gold to buy it 81 times...

author: N7Pankake time: 2014-8-18 06:37:07

nieverland replied at 2014-8-17 19:52
Yep bro youre right thats 150 vit more

And the 36 extra vit from GF and the vit on Beauty game (For the ones that go for Kusano)

author: SilvaBalls time: 2014-8-18 06:43:05

Get a decent support such as Yoruichi or even normal Rukia and invest the gold you're willing on getting Dark Rukia on the spirit stones. That's much better, Dark Rukia isn't all that special, her skill is only slightly better than normal Rukia. Don't get swindled, folks.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-18 07:04:05

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-17 20:19
It's permanent. It was a bug when we lost it in the first place.

So we get some Compensation for that? i mean. Its a lot of vit.

author: kranium time: 2014-8-18 07:59:22

Edited by kranium at 2014-8-18 07:08

Chaotic123 replied at 2014-8-17 21:55
from your calculation, possible for me to get dark rukia by not spending a gold, if you save vitalit ...

oh beauty game chances stacks ???
that case i should start saving vitality for maybe event Kempachi would be good ?
im lvl 80 but still vit would be spent on Trial lvl 80, 70

please advise

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-18 09:56:30

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-18 06:04
So we get some Compensation for that? i mean. Its a lot of vit.

Highly unlikely, I'd think.

author: inSec time: 2014-8-18 10:20:49

kranium replied at 2014-8-18 06:59
oh beauty game chances stacks ???
that case i should start saving vitality for maybe event Kempachi ...

i'm wondering about that question too does the sign in beauty chance get rest if we don't use it after the day or will it stack on if we leave it there?

author: nieverland time: 2014-8-18 11:36:48

inSec replied at 2014-8-18 09:20
i'm wondering about that question too does the sign in beauty chance get rest if we don't use it a ...

nop only stack the chances you get every 3 days log in, the daily ones doesnt stack

author: nieverland time: 2014-8-18 11:41:54

kranium replied at 2014-8-18 06:59
oh beauty game chances stacks ???
that case i should start saving vitality for maybe event Kempachi ...

Kempachi event?? that event doesnt exist, maybe Toshiro, Zangetsu or sogyo no kotowari but Kempachi, nah dont think so, he is at lv90 tavern btw

author: MisterMusashi time: 2014-8-18 11:52:06

nieverland replied at 2014-8-18 10:41
Kempachi event?? that event doesnt exist, maybe Toshiro, Zangetsu or sogyo no kotowari but Kempach ...

I'm sure you know Azrial's event recruit thread. There's a Shura Kenpachi right there, isn't there?

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-18 11:59:35

MisterMusashi replied at 2014-8-18 10:52
I'm sure you know Azrial's event recruit thread. There's a Shura Kenpachi right there, isn't there ...

We probably won't see that character for a long time.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-18 12:07:35

Ever since my server started, I forgot about the 3 day extra beauty game attempts...I got 45 to blow lol...

author: nieverland time: 2014-8-18 12:10:43

MisterMusashi replied at 2014-8-18 10:52
I'm sure you know Azrial's event recruit thread. There's a Shura Kenpachi right there, isn't there ...

lol i know abut that and that isnt and temporal event its a permanent one and diferent event more like a function (part of inter-serv tournament function ) and we still waiting for achievements

so do be so sure about it, because maybe they dont add him like ulquiorra and grimjow

but kempachi never was in this event

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-18 13:06:52

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-18 11:07
Ever since my server started, I forgot about the 3 day extra beauty game attempts...I got 45 to blow ...

Was more x3 than anything...few x5....no 6 or 7...and I'm lvl 82...

author: Glasglow time: 2014-8-18 13:07:23

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-18 02:34
What? I'm VIP 9 and it's 640 gold to buy Vit up 10 times a day....not sure where you are getting 1 ...

Wait, what really?

So that means, that more vit you buy, more expenssive it is? Cause i calculated it as each batch of VIT being 20 gold for 30 VIt, that isn't the case?

Well then then the prices you have to spend, are way more than i calculated...

author: Glasglow time: 2014-8-18 13:08:48

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-18 12:06
Was more x3 than anything...few x5....no 6 or 7...and I'm lvl 82...

Aye, i think our event is a bit different from how it was on CN, i've heard that people with lv80+ could get up to 7 crystals, which doesn't seem to be the case on our server, so in other words - its impossible to get enough for dark rukia within 10 days.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-18 13:11:06

Edited by [email protected] at 2014-8-18 12:12

Glasglow replied at 2014-8-18 12:07
Wait, what really?

So that means, that more vit you buy, more expenssive it is? Cause i calculate ...

Gold price increases..
1. 20g
2. 20g
3. 40g
4. 40g
5. 60g
6. 60g
7. 80g (VIP 8)
8. 80g (VIP 8)
9. 100g (VIP 9)
10. 100g (VIP 9)
11. 120g (VIP 10)
12. 120g (VIP 10)

author: Glasglow time: 2014-8-18 13:16:54

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-18 12:11
Gold price increases..
1. 20g
2. 20g

Oh wow, when i have a bit of free time, i'll remake the calculations over and as it looks, it is A LOT more gold to actually spend to get the VIT then ._.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-18 13:18:27

Glasglow replied at 2014-8-18 12:16
Oh wow, when i have a bit of free time, i'll remake the calculations over and as it looks, it is A ...

Yup :/

author: KrisKingOfLegend time: 2014-8-18 14:24:32

Chaotic123 replied at 2014-8-17 21:55
from your calculation, possible for me to get dark rukia by not spending a gold, if you save vitalit ...

May i ask how did you do that please llol??

author: loljk1337 time: 2014-8-18 14:45:24

all I can say is... Your calculation is wrong ;-)

author: thagam3 time: 2014-8-18 18:30:27

Guys calm down, i think there will be a 2nd part to the event where you can spend gold to get the event item instead of using vit.

author: Altaire time: 2014-8-19 13:05:34

VIP10 Max 12 Bought Vitality = 360
Standard Vitality Regen 3 per 30 minutes = 144
Aoi GirlFriend Shacking 8x = 48
5x Perfect Beauty Games = 50
2x Daily Cafe = 40

Daily Total = 642 x 10 Day Event = 6420
Plus 3x5 Extra Beauty Games During Event = +150
Plus If you saved full vitality when event started = + 360
Grand Total = 6930 Vitality

37,000 Required for Dark Rukia
37,000/6930 = 5.34
So you must maintain a 5.34 crystal average with the max amount of vitality available spending 8400 gold and not wasting any vitality.

Not very likely for most, I'm 76 and have around a 4.4 crystal average and I won't have nearly that much vitality.

author: nieverland time: 2014-8-19 17:44:05

Altaire replied at 2014-8-19 12:05
VIP10 Max 12 Bought Vitality = 360
Standard Vitality Regen 3 per 30 minutes = 144
Aoi GirlFriend Sha ...

yeee , sadly here i got a lot of 3 and few 6

author: karcharinas time: 2014-8-19 19:30:02

im level 67, and all im getting is 3-5 crystals (im a non vip member) so I have no hope of getting d.rukia . any advice

author: tommymac009 time: 2014-8-20 02:01:02

This seems really complicated, to get dark rukia, theres no other way but to spend a ton amount of golds.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-20 02:41:24

tommymac009 replied at 2014-8-20 01:01
This seems really complicated, to get dark rukia, theres no other way but to spend a ton amount of g ...

Yep, even that might not be enough :p

author: Altaire time: 2014-8-20 14:33:59

tommymac009 replied at 2014-8-20 01:01
This seems really complicated, to get dark rukia, theres no other way but to spend a ton amount of g ...

Its impossible for everyone on US servers, even getting the max amount of vitality each day by spending gold and every other way to obtain vitality; the highest lvl player in all US servers can't maintain a high enough crystal average obtained for each vitality spent to reach 37,000

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-20 14:38:21

Altaire replied at 2014-8-20 13:33
Its impossible for everyone on US servers, even getting the max amount of vitality each day by spe ...

Pretty much. :/

author: Altaire time: 2014-8-20 15:46:04

has anyone even gotten 6-7 crystals in a fight, im 78 and have only seen 3-5. and i went to see what a lvl 1 gets in the lvl 1 instance and its 3-5 aswell.
So it seems everyone no matter what lvl gets the same random amount of crystals?

author: zayya1 time: 2014-8-20 23:08:07

i have seen 6 crystals like once in my 1000 vitalitly spent =( average for me is a 3-4 i'm lvl 86

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-20 23:09:53

zayya1 replied at 2014-8-20 22:08
i have seen 6 crystals like once in my 1000 vitalitly spent =( average for me is a 3-4 i'm lvl 86

Same.....

author: tinglepuss time: 2014-8-20 23:32:16

does anyone on any server even have what it takes to get rukia currently? or will no one claim her at all?

im curious to see how this works if no one even comes close how gogames will react to this

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-20 23:37:45

tinglepuss replied at 2014-8-20 22:32
does anyone on any server even have what it takes to get rukia currently? or will no one claim her a ...

I don't think anyone will get her, no. Not looking like it, but I was told day 5 is going to bring "changes" to the event, whatever that means...could not get a direct answer.

author: tinglepuss time: 2014-8-20 23:40:46

on my server us 36 people have barely broken 3k crystal no one is even attempting ( not even the vip players) because they say its unfairly rigged i'd be curious to see what these "changes" entail

unless crystal reward is quadrupled or quintupled and the price of her drops in half at least no one is getting her

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-20 23:43:30

tinglepuss replied at 2014-8-20 22:40
on my server us 36 people have barely broken 3k crystal no one is even attempting ( not even the vip ...

I 1000000% agree with you :/ I can only ask and recommend to them to do such.

author: korogan time: 2014-8-21 00:59:28

hope they add more soul stones as price

author: rthammer time: 2014-8-21 15:54:33

Glasglow replied at 2014-8-17 18:45
Unless that giftpack is a donation of 30,000 crystals, then you shouldn't get your hopes up too hi ...

10k crystals tomorrow!

author: dreazz time: 2014-8-21 15:59:58

I'm level 65 and the max I've got it's 7 so yes 60+ it's prob 7 the max you can get

author: Altaire time: 2014-8-21 16:17:02

Hmm I'm 79 now and have spent 1000's of Vit and only gotten 3-5, mostly 4s quite a few 3's and some 5s

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-21 16:36:25

dreazz replied at 2014-8-21 14:59
I'm level 65 and the max I've got it's 7 so yes 60+ it's prob 7 the max you can get

I'm 83, and I've never gotten a 7, and that's doing it in 350 vit chunks at a time.

author: AgentP time: 2014-8-21 16:40:31

I'm lvl 64 and the highest I've gotten a few times was 6. But it's been mainly 3-4 crystals

author: Giken928 time: 2014-8-21 17:56:45

tinglepuss replied at 2014-8-20 22:40
on my server us 36 people have barely broken 3k crystal no one is even attempting ( not even the vip ...

lol i would be pissed if they did raise how many crystals we got per fight. All that wasted vit, and wasted gold buying vit and they increased the amount.

author: Shiba_Isshin time: 2014-8-21 21:15:05

Anyone on the EU servers have any updates to the event? What's the day 5 prize since it should be out already there..

author: Altaire time: 2014-8-23 15:02:02

no prize, just a 500 gold chest with 550 crystals

author: karcharinas time: 2014-8-24 11:47:09

has anyone got D.rukia yet

author: Leoceasar time: 2014-8-24 13:20:33

no body get d.rukia yet

author: loljk1337 time: 2014-8-24 13:24:06

I have ;-) i'm on EU4 if you want to see it I guess..

author: Leoceasar time: 2014-8-24 13:24:39

500 gold for 550 crystals can buying only 1 or more ?

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