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author: Kuyabells time: 2014-8-24 00:34:53 Title: Momo or Rukia? Which is better for pve/pvp

author: Kuyabells time: 2014-8-24 01:03:29

Why rukia and why momo guys?

author: concueror time: 2014-8-24 01:05:47

Momo good for pvp cus she can stun enemy assaulter
Rukia good for pve cus gives rage to ur assaulter

author: Kuyabells time: 2014-8-24 01:07:32

Oh but what's the best for pve/pvp?

author: NeoDecimo time: 2014-8-24 02:34:40

If you are stuck whether to choose Momo or Rukia first, I'd say go with Momo.

Her stun ability works wonders in PvP, almost stuns everytime if your opponent is 5 levels below you + she can deal a decent amount of damage in PvEs if build correctly.
Rukia is awesome for PvE's , as said before she gives fury to your characters which ultimately let your team do more fury attacks overtime. But she's not all that good for PvPs.

You cannot say whose better in PvP/PvE as one is a specialist of each, but generally speaking Momo is a must have Imo.

author: Kuyabells time: 2014-8-24 02:59:44

So much better momo?

I got renji sado and inoue

author: korogan time: 2014-8-24 09:36:46

"But she's not all that good for PvPs."

dont say that, it makes all rukia user(like me) down rated

author: bangladesh3610 time: 2014-8-24 11:25:21

Kuyabells replied at 2014-8-24 01:07
Oh but what's the best for pve/pvp?

mom cuz of stun

author: NeoDecimo time: 2014-8-25 03:06:38

korogan replied at 2014-8-24 08:36
"But she's not all that good for PvPs."

dont say that, it makes all rukia user(like me) down rated ...

Lol, I never intended to disrespect any Rukia Users. I just stated the Facts.
Btw I Myself am aiming to get her next cause she'll be one hell of a combination with Urahara(level80), so kudos to you my friend ;)

author: glorfyndel time: 2014-8-25 16:06:39

If you can rank high up in arena (1-7) so you can always get 15 wins a day go with momo, she helps u maintain that position, if not, go with rukia, since events are main resources income (both silver and exp) and she can be useful in pvp too. In the end i would recommend getting both, since each one of them ends up costing 4mil silver which is not that much, and both are used up to lvl 100, rukia can be used even after.

author: Glasglow time: 2014-8-25 16:13:04

Kuyabells replied at 2014-8-24 00:07
Oh but what's the best for pve/pvp?

There is no best for pvp+pve, they are devided into PVE and PVP specific, they are both good at one thing and crappy at the other, lol

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-25 18:54:44

Get Rukia, with the coming partner upgrades apparently she will be a must have even high level.

author: coralz77 time: 2014-8-29 12:13:10

test to trying..

author: Ezekeial time: 2014-8-29 18:03:16

Momo is very strong for PvP, can't say much about Rukia however.

author: MxnPride time: 2014-9-10 12:50:55

Ezekeial replied at 2014-8-29 17:03
Momo is very strong for PvP, can't say much about Rukia however.

It depends who is fastest and what setup their using. I am talking about after the character mod comes out.

Question is your BP a typo or something? It says you have 1.1m BP lol.

author: swordoffate time: 2014-9-12 14:53:39

Edited by swordoffate at 2014-9-12 13:55

OK, let's say about difference of Momo and rukia. first of all momo,

1. her stun ability makes opponent's assaulters literally 'DEAD' for 3 turns(which means she can stun them over and over again).
2. her wisdom is pretty good, so as hp.

In this case, momo is good for stunning assaulters, also means, that if you use lisa(her skill makes attack assaulters), ichigo kurosaki(event:attacks enemy assaulters), main character's 7th skill, or 8th skill(attacks enemy assaulters) and momo(stun enemy assaulters), the opponent's assaulters will get smashed.

Now let's talk about rukia.

1. increases own assaulters fury(which makes assaulter stronger, if the fury goes to more than 100, when they use their skills, it actually does more damage).
2. if you make rukia's agility highest of your characters, this is what's gonna happen( normally(without rukia, you use your special move after 2 turns (I'm not talking about first round which has 50 fury already), so like ATTACK, ATTACK, SPECIAL MOVE. But, with rukia with highest agility of your characters makes this, RUKIA's special move(I'm NOT talking about first round); which increases assaulter's fury by 30 or 45 but let's say 30, so let's go back to start,RUKIA SPECIAL MOVE(makes own assaulter 30/100 fury) - assaulter's attack( makes it 80/100) - rukia's special move again( makes 110/100 which mean s they can use their skills) - then assaulter's special move. As you can see, this result of assaulter's fury charging time is same as, ATTACK, SPECIAL MOVE. I made assaulter's movement( when you put rukia in your team) BOLD. If you count how many bolds there, there is only two(including special move). In this result, with having rukia with highest agility of your team, makes your assaulter to perform special move every TWO rounds(ATTACK, SPECIAL MOVE) ,normally not with rukia with highest agility is ATTACK,ATTACK,SPECIAL MOVE(just like I said before). So this one VERY good reason why you should choose rukia.
3. you can stop momo stunning your assaulter by using 4th skills and momo stun rate is just a CHANCE which means there is a CHANCE that you don't stun them( or they don't stun you), oh and momo is terrible at trial, instance, Evil spirit etc because mobs in trial, instance, and evil spirit has higher level(usually) than yours which makes momo's stun rate goes DOWN(Momo's stun rate is depends on level between you and opponent).
4. Rukia's talent is critical, which makes chance of getting massively higher damage to opponent.
5. With Uruhara(lvl 80), your assaulters can use their skill EVERY TURN, which makes you OP.

So now, you know that rukia is INCREDIBLY better than momo. Oh and this is main difference of rukia and momo, you can stop momo from stunning you by chance of luck or 4th skill). But can you stop rukia from increasing her assaulter's fury? the answer is NO. You can't do any shit about it to stop rukia.
If you read this, and you still prefer momo, PLEASE, PLEASE think again. CHOOSE RUKIA. thank you.

author: swordoffate time: 2014-9-13 02:26:13

or if you are rich enough to get two of them, that's another great idea.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-13 08:18:37

swordoffate replied at 2014-9-13 07:26
or if you are rich enough to get two of them, that's another great idea.

you don't really need to be rich, I could easily have gotten all purple characters if I wanted to and that's while still reinforcing and upgrading reiatsu.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-13 08:26:43

swordoffate replied at 2014-9-12 19:53
OK, let's say about difference of Momo and rukia. first of all momo,

1. her stun ability makes oppo ...

I don't see how it would be attack, attack, skill
if Rukia is slower starting on the first turn it goes, AS attack(100/100), Rukia attack(still 100/00), AS skill(0/100), Rukia skill(30/100), AS attack(80/100), Rukia skill(110/100), AS skill(0/100)
so it goes from turn 1 for assaulters, attack, skill, attack, skill, attack, skill, attack, until either they die, Rukia dies, or the enemy is dead

author: swordoffate time: 2014-9-13 21:07:43

it's attack attack skill because assaulter attack 50/100 second attack 100/100 then they use special move

author: Glasglow time: 2014-9-18 10:09:12

Get both, there is no point in asking about Purple reishi partners, you'll have enough reishi by the time you reach 70, to buy every single partner.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-18 11:35:09

swordoffate replied at 2014-9-14 02:07
it's attack attack skill because assaulter attack 50/100 second attack 100/100 then they use special ...

if you read my post you would see that that after the main uses their skill their fury goes to 0 then Rukia uses her skill to take them to 30 then the main attacks and gets 50 fury to make it 80 fury then Rukia skill's taking main's fury to 110 I used bold to show the main's fury over the time it takes for them to use their skill again and colour to highlight who does what. the main only attacks once not twice, the only reason the main needs to attack twice is if Rukia gets stunned or you don't use Rukia at all. Speed doesn't matter for the skill usage it will always go for a main character attack, skill, attack, skill when you use Rukia

author: poki00 time: 2014-9-23 11:52:09

Momo can be great in pvp but you have to make her very fast wwith agility stones, her limit is the anti stune skill (the 4th in soul map), if your oponent activates it and his faster than mommo she's done.

I prefer rukia since she keeps her fury begining second round, also you can keep her till lvl 80 without a problem combined with yoruichi and urahara

author: Glasglow time: 2014-9-25 01:58:25

Momo is basically a partner you will have until around lv80+ , because the only replacement for her would be Harribel at first, which you don't want to spend precious reishi on.
But Rukia, you'll want her around forever, since shes the queen of pve for assaulter formations.

author: placido2014 time: 2014-9-25 05:56:45

What is build best for momo?

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-26 07:42:02

Kuyabells replied at 2014-8-24 16:03
Why rukia and why momo guys?

IMO in PVP if you had to choose between these 2 and had no other choice I'd say momo because of her stun ability. rukia is very helpful but momo's stun puts her over the top in PVP to me. in PVE stun doesn't effect or doesn't effect as much I can't remember so i'd go for rukia

author: lowkick1 time: 2014-9-27 12:33:27

Momo needs high agility first and foremost. Secondary stats are debatable but my preference is hit rate, since if she misses, she can't build fury to stun anyone and that is what her sole purpose is. If you can't build a Momo that is faster than your opponent's main, then she isn't worth putting into your formation, since your opponent can simply use the 4th skill to negate her stuns. If you can build her to be fast, then she should be one of the first lv 50's u pick up. In 50-70 pvp stunning your opponent's assaulters is huge, even more so when they use a 1-3-1 formation. I would suggest giving her both str accessories over your assaulters since it gives a boost to her stun %. For pve, she's meh since a lot of the times her stuns will miss since on average, the mobs you face are higher level than you which significantly reduces her stun rate, and some opponents can't even be stunned as far as I can tell.

For Rukia, her agility doesn't matter since the specials will be activated at the same round whether she is first or last on your team to act. instead of attack>attack>skill, she makes it attack>skill>attack>skill which helps improve your dmg for pve content like evil spirits and ryoka attack, however she isn't entirely necessary so you can pick her up after u get other lvl 50's that u want, like Momo and Renji.

author: Glasglow time: 2014-10-7 11:49:06

lowkick1 replied at 2014-9-27 11:33
Momo needs high agility first and foremost. Secondary stats are debatable but my preference is hit r ...

high Agility/HIT , other stats are secondary.

If she misses, she isn't worth much.

author: prinplup1 time: 2014-10-25 08:42:28

for me,why not use both?
use rukia when dealing with damage events like ryoka and evil spirits.shes also good when youve taken out the enemy's ichigo/main.coz no one can kill her
use momo when fighting other players.if youre a tanker user(sado with a lot of hp and block),she can be good even if your assaulter dies.
the only problem of using both is......its a pain when exchanging equipments.......also the exp they get.
even though i know that they can kill my assaulter first,I still insist on using rukia...IDK why is it...

author: CupCakez time: 2014-10-25 20:36:25

They are both good depends for what:
If talk about PvP, trials and instances Momo is better
For PvE: Rukia is better and if use combo Urahara, Rukia in Ryokas and Evil Spirits you can spam your Fury Skills if you have good spirit stones.
I got both of them

author: xeonbritzy14344 time: 2014-11-15 22:45:17

is it good having momo and rukia in a formation?

author: lmavenl time: 2014-12-1 20:42:58

xeonbritzy14344 replied at 2014-11-15 19:45
is it good having momo and rukia in a formation?

That is my formation before until i replace momo with unohana.
It benefited me a lot in PVP purposes.

author: SACk25 time: 2014-12-26 12:51:29

Rukia is a good choice for PvP and PvE, with the increase of HP at battles, she is really usefull to get more fury and do more skill attacks.

Momo is a good too, but for PvP, now if you are able to get both they are a good team, make sure that Momo the faster player in the party.

author: airyonskyking time: 2015-2-16 20:57:04

bangladesh3610 replied at 2014-8-24 10:25
mom cuz of stun

same momo good till lv 80

author: walavic time: 2015-2-17 14:54:01

momo pvp rukia pve but i whould say go for rukia first

author: anthonie4 time: 2015-3-16 11:22:17

Kuyabells replied at 2014-8-24 01:03
Why rukia and why momo guys?

Youve got a wrong poll.. Lol so funny of u

author: anthonie4 time: 2015-3-16 11:23:43

Glasglow replied at 2014-8-25 16:13
There is no best for pvp+pve, they are devided into PVE and PVP specific, they are both good at one ...

Yeah, what a stupid poll... Ask one only,,, lol.

author: anthonie4 time: 2015-3-16 11:25:48

placido2014 replied at 2014-9-25 05:56
What is build best for momo?

Hmmm..nice question, f u dint mind its gonnah beeeeeeeeeebebeee. Str.... Dont ask why lol hahahaha

author: [email protected] time: 2015-5-24 15:32:31

Kuyabells replied at 2014-8-24 01:07
Oh but what's the best for pve/pvp?

dude/duddette pve and pvp are 2 seperate things so 1 that is ood for pve is bad for pvp, and 1 that is good for pvp will be bad at pve.

Unless your willing spend real money and buy gold then you will have to deal with having to get 2 different sets of partners. one set for pve and one set for pvp.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-5-24 15:35:42

korogan replied at 2014-8-24 09:36
"But she's not all that good for PvPs."

dont say that, it makes all rukia user(like me) down rated ...

to be honest if your looking for better pvp partner like rukia, then get kiskue, he is just like ruika, even his last mod gives 20 extra starting fury, but he gives it to entire team, while rukia only give to assault line.
This makes it so your vanguard also gets extra fury every turn.

author: iwilldie time: 2015-7-13 16:01:48

Kuyabells replied at 2014-8-24 02:59
So much better momo? I got renji sado and inoue

whats your battle power?mine is 38900 i think..

author: MylarHyrule time: 2015-10-15 11:29:21

At the point in the game your deciding between them pve gives better rewards unless your #1 in arena or have a chance to be. However the #1 in arena wouldn't ask tha question (no offense). So I'd say Rukia as pve should be your gravy zone till level 85ish. Work to kill ryoka. Run a 0-3-2 with 3 hard hitting assaulters and fury building or hard hitting supports. Once you start to one shot them for the first few rounds you can come thank me. Unless your top 1 in arena. Ryoka and evil spirit should be your only concern (after you can hold 5 in your party anyway which should be quite soon TBH. People will complain but ignore them. Your server is going to die anyway. Then during the time it is dead keep grinding and working because once you get merged you get put in the shark tank. At that point you will eat or be eaten. I want from 2nd in arena to 18th in arena after my merge. Got all the top 3 in CSB in my server and TBH they are the only ones I can't beat in arena now...

author: AnimeCentral123 time: 2016-2-29 20:51:33

People may say go with rukia but screw that at lv 80 just go with kiskue and when you hit lv 70 go with haribel or yorichi but for the time being go with momo because she lets you beat people you shouldn't be beating without her

author: binex1996 time: 2016-5-25 13:26:47

If you're at the point where you must choose between those two, just like MylarHyrule said, I don't think you should be focusing on PvP at all, unless, once again, like he said, you're #1 in Arena. PvE brings much more benefits in general, and that's how you'll essentially grow to be stronger. That said, I'd personally pick Rukia, for the reasons stated previously.

author: tytheboy time: 2016-5-25 13:34:49

NeoDecimo replied at 2014-8-25 03:06
Lol, I never intended to disrespect any Rukia Users. I just stated the Facts.
Btw I Myself am aimi ...

instead of getting rukia work on getting c.orihime from soul cultivation she beats rukia in every single way
attack suport with 120% growthrate
add 30% blockrate and 15% dmg rate to assaulters and vanguard
give heself 100 fury and assaulters 30 fury each round
and for the hogu's later on she is gold quality

author: Shorge time: 2016-7-4 18:40:25

Momo for pvp Rukia for pve

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