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author: Sh4rk3y    time: 2015-8-15 14:30:19     Title: A couple of questions

#1- Is Sogyo still worth using in pvp even if you can't forty its speed or just keep it purely for pve?

#2- Sexy Yoruichi or Shinigami Yoruichi?

My pvp team: Sajin, main, Yamamoto, Harribel, Shinigami Urahara
My pve team: main, Renji, Ikkaku, Dark Rukia, Rukia

First question is pretty much straight. About the second question.. I know Sexy Yoruichi is really great for pve damage but i heard that Shinigami Yoruichi can help you a lot on certain stages/Hallow Souls, so which one would be wiser to pick?

author: sirnibbles    time: 2015-8-15 14:33:43

shini yori is the best 1v1 partner aside from noza simply cuz she'll be invincible the whole time with a good crit rate

however, invincibility doesnt work against the main enemy (gin/aizen) and it doesnt work in 5v5

on the contrary, using someone like kisuke to give t1 to sexy yori is the cheapest way to have full t1

imo, shini is better
author: Redman06    time: 2015-8-15 14:39:19

Edited by Redman06 at 2015-8-15 14:40

1) I believe sogyo is pretty useless less paired with certain partners (e.g cute orihime / D. Rukia) Tbh I'd stick with Kazeshini for pvp and Zabimaru for Pve

2) Depends....Sexy.Y is strictly for pve (i see limited uses for her in pvp less you have a vanguard destroyer team or you wanna take advantage of her fury gain skill) and Shini.Y is strictly pvp (Doesn't serve too well in pve events Her invulnerability only works up to a certain point in hollow souls, don't think it works in the group battles or against the bosses.)

Judging from your pvp team I'd say you're pretty set, I mean if you get Shini Youri who are you gonna replace? I wouldn't replace Yama with her tbh, for me I'd get Sexy Youri and replace Renji.
author: Sh4rk3y    time: 2015-8-15 14:51:58

Redman06 replied at 2015-8-15 20:39
1) I believe sogyo is pretty useless less paired with certain partners (e.g cute orihime / D. Rukia) ...

I would either replace Harribel or Urahara and try for a 1-3-1.. Tho i don't know if losing stun/silence would be a good idea unless i can make Yoruichi really fast.
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-8-15 14:54:46

Redman06 replied at 2015-8-15 14:39
1) I believe sogyo is pretty useless less paired with certain partners (e.g cute orihime / D. Rukia) ...

With this new conquest stuff, which is more worth fortifying.  Kazeshini for pvp or Zabimaru for pve?
author: Redman06    time: 2015-8-15 15:03:11

MikkyX replied at 2015-8-15 14:54
With this new conquest stuff, which is more worth fortifying.  Kazeshini for pvp or Zabimaru for p ...

Well I'd say there are a few options :
1) If you have time to invest in both then go for fortifying both so you have a balance
2) Prioritize one or the other , pvp or pve and concentrate on the respective zanpakto
3) Get a zanpakto that is well rounded and great in both pvp and pve e.g Zangetsu / Senbon
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-8-15 15:08:27

Redman06 replied at 2015-8-15 15:03
Well I'd say there are a few options :
1) If you have time to invest in both then go for fortifyin ...

Wish I had that money for either, but I have none.  Zabimaru is only good for ES as I see the case since, I can oneshot till around wave 54 in ryoka.  If I do fortify zabimaru it will only be one or two waves more.  

Meanwhile, if I go for kazeshini, he will help me in pvp, soulmap, GW, CSB, and everywhere else where it matters.  Still though, if I had zangetsu or senbon, I'd probably focus on them, but unfortunately I don't.
author: moongoatie    time: 2015-8-15 15:13:34

Isn't Zan fortifying for PVP only? At least that's what it says
author: Redman06    time: 2015-8-15 15:20:14

No the effects that you get when you level each stat to a certain level is what is for pvp only, the overall stats you gain from fortifying are for general use
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-8-15 15:22:28

Redman06 replied at 2015-8-15 15:20
No the effects that you get when you level each stat to a certain level is what is for pvp only, the ...

That's only for zampaktou right.  I mean your partners won't get any stats from it too, or would they?
author: Redman06    time: 2015-8-15 15:23:48

No the stat gain goes to your partners, it doesn't change anything on the zanpakto itself. When you level each attribute to level 10 it activates the first phase effects, these effects are limited to pvp uses ONLY.
author: Sh4rk3y    time: 2015-8-16 06:18:25

Does invulnerability work in partner cultivating dojo?
author: firemirro    time: 2015-8-16 06:37:59

tbh, I would've gone for isshin instead of yama and had shinigami yoruichi... cause if u wanted a 1-3-1 team anyway isshin is superior to yama, that aside it is still a good team.

I really don't like sexy yoruichi especially as a higher vip with yama. Simply because he has so good scalings and if u got sogyo u can make him pretty darn fast, even faster than a lot of supports unless they got event zanpakuto and event partner too. And then u basically just want yama T1 and whoop, oneshot for pvp.

On the pve side yes I see the use for it, but when u could just move T1 to someone like shinso gin, dark rukia, tavern urahara etc.

So for me it would be shinigami yoruichi.

Also I don't understand why u can't fortify speed on sogyo? My brother got it and he can do it fine?


author: Sh4rk3y    time: 2015-8-16 06:54:27

firemirro replied at 2015-8-16 12:37
tbh, I would've gone for isshin instead of yama and had shinigami yoruichi... cause if u wanted a 1- ...

My sogyo fortify options are physical attack, kido attack and max hp... Are you sure you are not confusing it with a different zanpakuto?
author: firemirro    time: 2015-8-16 16:39:10

Sh4rk3y replied at 2015-8-16 06:54
My sogyo fortify options are physical attack, kido attack and max hp... Are you sure you are not c ...

oh lol I just checked it, you're right, I mistook the kido symbol for the speed symbol, my bad
author: Sh4rk3y    time: 2015-8-16 19:07:01

firemirro replied at 2015-8-16 22:39
oh lol I just checked it, you're right, I mistook the kido symbol for the speed symbol, my bad

No problem
Should i remove my Harribel or Shinigami Urahara to make a 1-3-1 with Shinigami Yoruichi?
Harribel is evo7 3 stars while Urahara only evo3 0 stars. Tho dunno if it's better stun assault or silence support :/
author: firemirro    time: 2015-8-17 13:14:33

Sh4rk3y replied at 2015-8-16 19:07
No problem
Should i remove my Harribel or Shinigami Urahara to make a 1-3-1 with Shinigami Yoru ...

Well in my opinion it's like this.

Supports are "generally" the fastest, however event assaulter partners may actually become faster than some supports.

Therefore people usually focus their cc support for speed.

BUT if u got a event partner support u should easily be able to make him the fastest, thereby stopping all your opponents cc.

With yama who has REALLY good growth rates it's easy to make him faster than the enemy assaulters.

So imo, go shinigami urahara, make him insanely fast, then make yama 2nd fastest and go oneshot those silenced supports and maybe even the entire enemy team and then use shinigami yoru to finish it all.

And then also remember to put your main in middle position and use all skill scrolls on dragon slash, and put yama on the bottom, so he gets the combo.

That's what I would do.. Hope it helps!
author: Sh4rk3y    time: 2015-8-17 16:12:01

firemirro replied at 2015-8-17 19:14
Well in my opinion it's like this.

Supports are "generally" the fastest, however event assaulter p ...

Thanks for the tips
I will try doing that, just hoping Shinigami Yoru will be in reio the next days.
author: firemirro    time: 2015-8-19 13:41:10

Sh4rk3y replied at 2015-8-17 16:12
Thanks for the tips
I will try doing that, just hoping Shinigami Yoru will be in reio the next  ...

She wont be in reio this time :/




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