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author: joninhas97    time: 2015-8-23 20:34:03     Title: Formation Advice

Hi i wanted a advice to get a better team im lvl 91. My team atm is:
Support - Rukia T1 (will replace with kisuke t1)
Assaulter- Main kido, Isshin t1, Sexy yorouichi (thinking on replacing for a support that stuns enemy support or i could w8 for hakuteikan byakuya)
VG- Sado (replacing for shin shura kenny will take a lot of time)
I just wanted to know if im doing good and if someone as some tips for a even better formation
Oh and i dont know if i should try to get vg kenny or i should go for ulquiorra and only then try to get byakuya wich will take me a lot of time
author: Redman06    time: 2015-8-23 20:47:05

I'd definitely recommend getting a partner that stuns/locks enemy supports they become pesky later on! That means you'd have to switch to a 1-2-2 formation. Wouldn't Sajin be a better choice than chad while you wait for kenny though? Cause that's a pretty long wait and chad falls off pretty fast especially at your current level.

Tbh between kenny and ulquiorra I'd probably go for Kenny as he can fill so much more roles than ulquiorra could. As for byakuya , seeing as you already have isshin I see no point in him.
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-8-23 20:50:14

Edited by Zento-Hazashi at 2015-8-24 01:51

i dunno, with those partners you seem great already since they'll be great later on (im taking you're not THAT strong as you are lvl 91, so potential is to be reached much later).

You don't need a swap with any of your assaulters, they are great, the only person that needs a swap is Sexy Yoru, but that's only with Shura Ken (CSB) as it's to who hits harder pretty much, and will cover Sexy Yoru on the PVE side heavily.

Your formation seems like its best served for a 0/3/2 formation (Heavy PVP, dependant on how good it is, PVE also), so having just a Kisuke there might kill you in PVP, but it just depends how good you are atm before choosing your support right now, mind telling us where you are in Arena, how you hold up in fights etc.? ^^

Edit: Absolute no need for Byakuya with your formation, unless your just focusing on PVP only, then yeah, go for Byakuya, on who to swap for though is on your descision once you get up to that point, and who's helped the most


author: joninhas97    time: 2015-8-23 20:58:59

i have 550k bp im at rank 6 almost 5 in arena. But the top 4 are really strong and ahead. I wont replace isshin im just thinking on replacing sexy yoroui and sado
Getting byakuya would be good because i would have 2 AOE's killing the supports and assaulter's in the 1st turn giving them no chance of stopping my assaulters of attacking again. (My assaulters with isshin all have t1)
Or i should go for 1-2-2 and get a support like shini urahara t1 and stop they're support and they wont be able to attack my assaulters.
I dont need PVE im really good in PVE already xd focusing in PVP now
author: joninhas97    time: 2015-8-23 21:00:29

i can get ulquiorra 2x faster then shura kenny. Ulquiorra would take me like 60 days and kenny 120 days. And with ulquiorra i think i can climb more on CSB and that would be faster to get byakuya
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-8-23 21:53:20

joninhas97 replied at 2015-8-24 01:58
i have 550k bp im at rank 6 almost 5 in arena. But the top 4 are really strong and ahead. I wont rep ...

ah ok that's given me some insight now.

So you're BP is fine at your lvl, actually, it's peak at your lvl in some cases.
I knew wasn't going to swap out Isshin for the CR and 'T1', but Sexy Yoru can easily be swapped by a FREE partner (CSB Kenpachi).

Even if you are good at PVE, Sexy Yoru is pretty much a dumbed down CSB Kenpachi, so you might aswell swap out Sexy Yoru if you're going to keep her.

Getting Byakuya would be great ofc, but you being already T1 as it is and having Isshin, simply going for the better SWAP would be better, and not the 'focused' partner (PVE/PVP choices). Eh Sado you'll obviously swap later, thats nothing you need to worry about for now as long as he's still tanking stuff.

As i said, you could be already great at PVE, but getting CSB Kenpachi is just simply replacing Sexy Yoru a.k.a obtaining a better overall partner and being better at PVE too, but you could also create a formation for PVE and 1 for PVP? (You'll definitely consider it later on in the lvl 90's, might aswell start now).

Example, simply having a 0/3/2 formation (Rukia and Kisuke) for insane fury growth, or a PVP formation consisting of either 1/2/2 or 1/3/1
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-8-23 21:55:44

joninhas97 replied at 2015-8-24 02:00
i can get ulquiorra 2x faster then shura kenny. Ulquiorra would take me like 60 days and kenny 120 d ...

the 1/2/2 formation is more for the 'balance' aspect, i believe you should pick this if you're defence right now is concerning you, or simply your weak point.

Go for 1/3/1 if you are simply stronger than your peers, and obtaining another assaulter will just make you jump above the mark of 'beating' you.

Again, confident in battles, and being able to destroy the enemy, but have trouble of actually killing off the enemy as well at times? 1/3/1

Somewhat your defences aren't as great due to the enemy being able to counter you in certain areas? 1/2/2

You decide ^^
author: joninhas97    time: 2015-8-23 22:17:58

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-8-23 21:55
the 1/2/2 formation is more for the 'balance' aspect, i believe you should pick this if you're def ...

i will swich only sexy yori
Thx for the help
You think i shoulld get either ulquiorra or kenny? Because having ulquiorra will make me have byakuya or csb kenny faster and will make me have shin shura kenny faster too
author: CryLight    time: 2015-8-24 04:44:45

u can go get shini urahara..he really cheap atm then use urahara,shini urahara, isshin, main, swp kenny //

author: CryLight    time: 2015-8-24 04:46:59

Edited by CryLight at 2015-8-24 14:48
Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-8-24 07:53
ah ok that's given me some insight now.

So you're BP is fine at your lvl, actually, it's peak at  ...

"actually, it's peak at your lvl in some cases" well i dont think so..i can bet i had like 300k more xD
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-8-24 13:27:58

Edited by Zento-Hazashi at 2015-8-24 18:31
CryLight replied at 2015-8-24 09:46
"actually, it's peak at your lvl in some cases" well i dont think so..i can bet i had like 300k mor ...

at lvl 91, where you wouldn't have all the new gear, inherits into your new gear, and new tavern partners yet, i believe he is at his peak at that lvl

I wasn't saying the full of lvl 90's - 100's
You even quoted me on 'some cases', this can mean anything from that lvl 90 paying 100,000 gold into his account, being able to obtain Shinso Gin, Mugetsu etc. and absolute dominate anyone, even arena titles as to being first or not, this person is only 6th.

author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-8-24 13:29:35

joninhas97 replied at 2015-8-24 03:17
i will swich only sexy yori
Thx for the help
You think i shoulld get either ulquiorra or kenny? B ...

if it's only for the fact that it makes you get faster productivity, than yes, get ulquiorra ^^

If you're somewhat struggling in PVE sections like Hollow Map, definitely get Kenpachi, his 300% Growth rate destroys almost anyone at your lvl in 1v1 scenario's, even for Ryoka too, allowing your assaulters to block hits from the Ryoka ^^
author: joninhas97    time: 2015-8-24 13:50:32

but shin shura kenny will take a lot of time for me xd. I think im going to get ulquiorra then byakuya. And for pve ill use my tavern partners xd
author: eukami    time: 2015-8-24 13:57:26

joninhas97 replied at 2015-8-24 13:50
but shin shura kenny will take a lot of time for me xd. I think im going to get ulquiorra then byaku ...

But if you get ulquiorra, would you really need byakuya? Thats the only thought I have. What if you get ulquiorra then work for CSB Kenpachi?
author: joninhas97    time: 2015-8-24 14:02:31

i dont really like csb kenny. But you just gave me an idea i could get ulquiorra maybe and upgrade him and maybe get csb aizen.. I like byakuya because he is really strong and i need 1 more AOE.ยด
His ulquiorra in the 1st mod a lot weaker then byakuya?

author: joninhas97    time: 2015-8-24 14:03:14

eukami replied at 2015-8-24 13:57
But if you get ulquiorra, would you really need byakuya? Thats the only thought I have. What if yo ...

I know ulquiorra in his second form is so strong or maybe stronger then yamamoto but his he stronger then byakuya?
author: eukami    time: 2015-8-24 14:06:36

joninhas97 replied at 2015-8-24 14:03
I know ulquiorra in his second form is so strong or maybe stronger then yamamoto but his he stronge ...

Well he is slower, but his damage wont be that bad I guess. I think ulquiorra will still be good considering you have Isshin tho. I'm just saying this will be a good way to balance out your PvP/PvE so you'll still be very strong in both terms
author: joninhas97    time: 2015-8-24 14:08:43

eukami replied at 2015-8-24 14:06
Well he is slower, but his damage wont be that bad I guess. I think ulquiorra will still be good c ...

well in PvE im strong already and tavern partners can make the job too xd. And now im focusing on the PvP that's why im thinking either ulquiorra or kenny and byakuya xd
author: eukami    time: 2015-8-24 14:10:47

joninhas97 replied at 2015-8-24 14:08
well in PvE im strong already and tavern partners can make the job too xd. And now im focusing on  ...

Kenny isn't all that good for PvP in that case your best set is to go for byakuya. But maybe you should start working on a better vanguard? Maybe noza would be something for you, if you can get a good zanpakuto for him he'll be monstrous
author: joninhas97    time: 2015-8-24 14:13:53

i know. I will be getting byakuya in csb. But i should spend like 15k hueco mundo coins and get ulquiorra (wich would make me get byakuya faster and at lvl 105 i can get hollow ichigo) or i should keep them and save for kenny and then get byakuya almost at the same time
author: eukami    time: 2015-8-24 14:15:22

joninhas97 replied at 2015-8-24 14:13
i know. I will be getting byakuya in csb. But i should spend like 15k hueco mundo coins and get ulqu ...

I think you should save the coins for noza
author: joninhas97    time: 2015-8-24 14:41:41

eukami replied at 2015-8-24 14:15
I think you should save the coins for noza

ok i will save them then ty
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-8-24 18:46:38

joninhas97 replied at 2015-8-24 19:41
ok i will save them then ty

Aha! Your Vanguard = Kenpachi (its a while, but a good while)

Your Ulquiorra/Byakuya choice? Well that means you need the one that does the AOE damage stronger to the point you can at least 1 shot the enemy with a T1 start with your main (it isn't that much of an upgrade to your main since you are already somewhat powerful)

Ulquiorra falls off with speed (Exceptionally), Byakuya is good, but his skill is negated with Isshin, however he's speedy... But his AOE skill won't be necessary if at least your main is strong enough for that (having 2 partners for 1 job is very unnecessary)

Byakuya for you seems more of a 'optional' term, rather than CSB Aizen or CSB Kenpachi, who seems to be of greater value to you to actually hitting a vanguard, whilst helping even more in PVE too.

If you can, go for CSB Aizen and get Ulquiorra (mind his speed, it's concerning), or get CSB Kenpachi over Sexy Yoru for more potential onto the enemy Vanguard; your option is to make your main stronger and Isshin faster/stronger exponentially too
author: joninhas97    time: 2015-8-24 20:15:58

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-8-24 18:46
Aha! Your Vanguard = Kenpachi (its a while, but a good while)

Your Ulquiorra/Byakuya choice? Well ...

atm i cant one shot some support's from people with the same bp or higher. And if they're support's dont die only with my main i need someone to finish them. Killing the vanguard isn't that hard since my main and isshin deal really high damage

So what you think i should spend my hueco coins in a good vanguard or skip the vg (kenny) and get hollow ichigo at 105 or i should get ulquiorra to kill more people thus making faster to get a CSB partner

Im really thinking on getting ulquiorra but it is going to take sometime still i have 3k coins kenny costs 32k and ulquiorra 15k-16k
author: joninhas97    time: 2015-8-24 20:18:19

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-8-24 18:46
Aha! Your Vanguard = Kenpachi (its a while, but a good while)

Your Ulquiorra/Byakuya choice? Well ...

And when i reach the 15k hueco coins i will see if i am too far from getting csb byakuya if i am close i will surely get kenny. I have really good stones for the vg but im using sado but if i got kenny and hyorin my formation would be really strong since my assaulter's are really strong too
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-8-24 21:07:39

joninhas97 replied at 2015-8-25 01:18
And when i reach the 15k hueco coins i will see if i am too far from getting csb byakuya if i am c ...

the thing is, leaving them on so little hp is fine

I'm literally all focused on my main, when i leave them on little HP, i just get my Fury back again and one shot them once more

Since you'll have an aggressive vg (Kenpachi), when he blocks, he'll do an insane amount of block damage back; he cleaned up the 'mess' you left.

As long as leaving them on so little HP is fine to you (A.k.a you can suffice when it happens, and continue to deal alot of damage) then you don't need Byakuya ^^

As i said, just improve your attack by more on your main to the point you one shot them, i mean, by the time you have enough to get Byakuya, you would have already made that improvement, think about it ^^

Definitely go for Kenny as VG, especially if you're getting Hyorin So you're VG will make up for those that are left on little HP, your Isshin will make you T1 x2 again, and a possible CSB Kenny will annihilate similar formations of their VG ^^
author: thepoke007    time: 2015-8-24 21:10:00

ur case would be 1 2 2 team since u have ishin, go for aizen sup combined with t1  urahara
author: CryLight    time: 2015-8-25 03:56:27

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-8-24 23:27
at lvl 91, where you wouldn't have all the new gear, inherits into your new gear, and new tavern pa ...

damn i thought u can see that even iam vip1 i have 230 gold so like i havent spend any gold...so basicaly its me by doing the free stuufs only
author: remix009    time: 2015-8-25 04:53:45

joninhas97 replied at 2015-8-23 20:58
i have 550k bp im at rank 6 almost 5 in arena. But the top 4 are really strong and ahead. I wont rep ...

My oh my Masuda,u going ham with that theory crafting buddy U better hurry,current rank 5 is about to get alot stronger
author: joninhas97    time: 2015-8-25 06:21:43

remix009 replied at 2015-8-25 04:53
My oh my Masuda,u going ham with that theory crafting buddy  U better hurry,current rank 5 is ab ...

ahah how do u know me? xd
author: joninhas97    time: 2015-8-25 06:22:32

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-8-24 21:07
the thing is, leaving them on so little hp is fine

I'm literally all focused on my main, when i l ...

i will be getting the vg kenny then. And then on CSB when i reach the 4k stones i will think in wich one i will get xd
author: sirnibbles    time: 2015-8-25 06:24:26

CryLight replied at 2015-8-25 03:56
damn i thought u can see that even iam vip1 i have 230 gold so like i havent spend any gold...so b ...

shun the non-f2p

author: eukami    time: 2015-8-25 06:26:10

CryLight replied at 2015-8-25 03:56
damn i thought u can see that even iam vip1 i have 230 gold so like i havent spend any gold...so b ...

But how do you have so many coupons lol
author: Xallog    time: 2015-8-25 06:28:02

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author: Xcution12    time: 2015-8-25 06:28:59

CryLight replied at 2015-8-24 04:46
"actually, it's peak at your lvl in some cases" well i dont think so..i can bet i had like 300k mor ...

                                   
author: joninhas97    time: 2015-8-25 06:29:34

Xallog replied at 2015-8-25 06:28
Go for hyorin if you go double kenpachi, the bonuses

i think i wont get csb kenny. I would prefer byakuya or change to 1-2-2 and get aizen o shini urahara
author: Xallog    time: 2015-8-25 07:32:48

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author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-8-25 07:52:06

joninhas97 replied at 2015-8-25 11:22
i will be getting the vg kenny then. And then on CSB when i reach the 4k stones i will think in wi ...

remember, that decision on CSB should depend on your state then

If you can one-shot at that time, get CSB kenpachi, if not, go for Byakuya

or just go for Aizen, that helps too
author: joninhas97    time: 2015-8-25 14:39:30

Xallog replied at 2015-8-25 07:32
Going for a pvp setup?

yes, I'm going to focus on pvp now
author: joninhas97    time: 2015-8-25 14:40:17

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-8-25 07:52
remember, that decision on CSB should depend on your state then

If you can one-shot at that ti ...

yes if i one-shot people easy i will get aizen or kenny if not i will get byakuya and he will help a lot xd




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