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author: purebeast007 time: 2015-8-26 19:36:19 Title: spells working when they miss... (dumb)

Edited by purebeast007 at 2015-8-29 19:39

why do spells even give effects when the character misses... that literally makes no sense... like Urahara that gives mana to characters even if he misses when he casts his spell... why is this even working..? makes 0 sense

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author: sirnibbles time: 2015-8-26 19:38:03

you know whats also 0

not the fury he gives, cuz he always gives 25/37

author: purebeast007 time: 2015-8-26 21:36:07

yea it's dumb that if he misses he still gives fury... it makes ZERO sense

author: ajoalex time: 2015-8-26 21:53:00

purebeast007 replied at 2015-8-27 06:36
yea it's dumb that if he misses he still gives fury... it makes ZERO sense

you want him to give 0 fury when he misses? eat the extra popcorn you get for free and watch the movie

author: purebeast007 time: 2015-8-26 21:57:43

ajoalex replied at 2015-8-26 21:53
you want him to give 0 fury when he misses? eat the extra popcorn you get for free and watch the m ...

yes... that would make sense

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2015-8-26 22:14:53

sirnibbles replied at 2015-8-27 00:38
you know whats also 0

not the fury he gives, cuz he always gives 25/37

isn't that a crit thing?

It'd make sense if he gave 37 because of him doing a crit

It'd be funny if he had an aoe 'crit' in terms of giving random fury

author: ajoalex time: 2015-8-26 22:30:13

purebeast007 replied at 2015-8-27 06:57
yes... that would make sense

ok the thing is this, he gives fury regardless of whether he misses or not. u get 37 if he crits. is that clear now?

author: purebeast007 time: 2015-8-26 23:56:25

ajoalex replied at 2015-8-26 22:30
ok the thing is this, he gives fury regardless of whether he misses or not. u get 37 if he crits. ...

i kno that's how it is... but it makes zero damn sense, if he misses or any character that misses their special to apply whatever they do... it would make sense for it to never even apply or happen if they missed in reality... understand or is that too hard for you to understand?

author: ajoalex time: 2015-8-27 01:57:57

purebeast007 replied at 2015-8-27 08:56
i kno that's how it is... but it makes zero damn sense, if he misses or any character that misses ...

no one gives a shit about what you think the game should be. it is THAT way and it will be THAT way untill someone decides to fix it.
so stop yapping around and just play according to how the game is. Or quit this game !!

there are many things that doesn't make sense in the game, but no one goes around yapping about how it doesn't make sense all the time, eventually they just live with it. Ofcourse we all want things to look normal and behave normal; Not in our hands.

you are someone who joined this game more than a year ago, and now it hit your head about the spell? I expected someone as senior as you to have some sense regarding this game. now its easy for me to understand !!

good luck fixing the spells. all the very best !

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-8-27 05:22:59

oh man...i just now remembered this dude

a lot of people probably dont cuz they havent been here long enough but waaaaaaayyyyyy back when (like August of last year) he kept whining about EVERYTHING

http://forums.gogames.me/thread-1740-1-437.html

author: purebeast007 time: 2015-8-27 06:49:30

Edited by purebeast007 at 2015-8-27 06:53

sirnibbles replied at 2015-8-27 05:22
oh man...i just now remembered this dude

a lot of people probably dont cuz they havent been here lo ...

because it takes them forever to fix serious issues... and even minor things, and with the amount of money they have made from this game, there should be fixes and updates ASAP...
as for @ajoalex im not even sure if your on my side or against me... you literally just said nothing but fail bashing... then you ended up sucking my D

author: ajoalex time: 2015-8-27 07:50:10

sirnibbles replied at 2015-8-27 14:22
oh man...i just now remembered this dude

a lot of people probably dont cuz they havent been here lo ...

ah no wonder, the whiner returns after a year. i wonder who kicked the crap out of him last year before we all joined.
guess he just wanted some attention. poor guy !!

author: Suzuken time: 2015-8-27 07:53:10

lol this is not wartune get over it .. also they are called skills not spells

author: AssassinwithRPG time: 2015-8-27 08:14:38

Kiske misses the attack therefore does 0 damage. Now he gives fury to team mates cos he cant fucking miss em can he? Makes perfect sense to me.

author: StarTheHollow time: 2015-8-27 08:23:19

Suzuken replied at 2015-8-27 07:53
lol this is not wartune get over it .. also they are called skills not spells

... and and fury is also called mana

author: MylarHyrule time: 2015-8-27 09:08:22

sounds like someone is getting pwned by kieske.... just trollin bro. don't be mad, lol

author: Suzuken time: 2015-8-27 09:16:04

StarTheHollow replied at 2015-8-27 16:23
... and and fury is also called mana

#GameLogic

author: Norbert_Kukurows time: 2015-8-27 09:16:28

AssassinwithRPG replied at 2015-8-27 14:14
Kiske misses the attack therefore does 0 damage. Now he gives fury to team mates cos he cant fucking ...

ok but what when your main ( with 5th skill ) is missing enemy but debuff isnt and he is working? Still it have sense? Author have some right in this. If u miss hit, debuffs from skill should miss too. But... its only game... u cant have sense at all^^

author: ajoalex time: 2015-8-27 09:27:17

beware... more sensible ppl getting in ie whiner's friends/cousins/neighbours/teachers/guildmates barging in !!

author: TheBadTouch time: 2015-8-27 10:41:03

Edited by TheBadTouch at 2015-8-27 10:42

ajoalex replied at 2015-8-27 07:50
ah no wonder, the whiner returns after a year. i wonder who kicked the crap out of him last year b ...

The one who kicked the crap outta him was "EverythingsWrong"
Just Sayain XD

author: [email protected] time: 2015-8-27 10:48:28

ajoalex replied at 2015-8-27 01:57
no one gives a shit about what you think the game should be. it is THAT way and it will be THAT w ...

bhai yeda ho gaya , woich na :p

author: ajoalex time: 2015-8-27 11:53:00

[email protected] replied at 2015-8-27 19:48
bhai yeda ho gaya , woich na :p

sahi, dimag ki dahi banane ki khoshish ..par....

author: AssassinwithRPG time: 2015-8-27 15:25:06

Norbert_Kukurows replied at 2015-8-27 09:16
ok but what when your main ( with 5th skill ) is missing enemy but debuff isnt and he is working? ...

That`s a different case scenario and it does not make sense to me why debuff is still applied but i cant do bugger fuck with that can I?

author: Norbert_Kukurows time: 2015-8-27 15:40:46

Edited by Norbert_Kukurows at 2015-8-27 21:58

AssassinwithRPG replied at 2015-8-27 21:25
That`s a different case scenario and it does not make sense to me why debuff is still applied but ...

Hahahaha

I dont fuck u for this^^ i just said that, author have some right in this case^^ I never thought about it, game is just working like that and that's all.

author: AssassinwithRPG time: 2015-8-27 18:58:04

Norbert_Kukurows replied at 2015-8-27 15:40
Hahahaha I dont fuck u for this^^ i just said that, author have some right in this case^^ I ne ...

Not the case, in his case he was bitching about Kiske, so no, his case makes full sense to me. while the example you gave is rather different I can`t disagree it does not make sense that debuffs work on you although the hit was missed.

author: Norbert_Kukurows time: 2015-8-27 19:11:16

AssassinwithRPG replied at 2015-8-28 00:58
Not the case, in his case he was bitching about Kiske, so no, his case makes full sense to me. whi ...

I think that Kisuke was only his example... and he thought about all skills and partners... but w/e man, game like that cant have sense at all aspects. So i dont rly carre about it, cuz devs will never change that^^

author: Frost9364 time: 2015-8-27 19:26:54

I feel it makes sense, my reason is this. In this game there is the normal dodge and super dodge(or flash or what ever its called) the second being the effect shin yoruichi gets when she uses skill. Both prevent dmg taken, both do not stop effects not targeting them(e.g kisuke fury to team mates) however while you can get stunned fury deducted e.t.c on dodge, super dodge will negate such effects.
For those that want it to make sense An example: Dodge would be avoiding a knife thrown at you with just a scratch(you take no noticable dmg but if it is poisoned you get poisoned) while super dodge is avoiding it completely

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-8-27 19:30:14

this guys angry cuz he uses gamuza dn yachiru

author: AssassinwithRPG time: 2015-8-28 07:27:31

Norbert_Kukurows replied at 2015-8-27 19:11
I think that Kisuke was only his example... and he thought about all skills and partners... but ...

The devs are on the cn version so yeah we can do as much as nothing. And even if the devs were on this version they would just ignore forum like the "admins" do.

author: purebeast007 time: 2015-8-28 13:11:23

TheBadTouch replied at 2015-8-27 10:41
The one who kicked the crap outta him was "EverythingsWrong"
Just Sayain XD

nah i made him look like a straight fool, but that's nor here or there... this isnt a topic about an immature child who likes to lie ("everythingswrong"), it's about something that should make sense, which doesnt right now..

author: purebeast007 time: 2015-8-28 13:13:18

Norbert_Kukurows replied at 2015-8-27 19:11
I think that Kisuke was only his example... and he thought about all skills and partners... but ...

yea Kisuke was just an example... i was talking about ALL characters, you are correct...

author: purebeast007 time: 2015-8-28 13:13:59

sirnibbles replied at 2015-8-27 19:30
this guys angry cuz he uses gamuza dn yachiru

i dont use either of them...

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-8-28 13:44:02

purebeast007 replied at 2015-8-28 13:13
i dont use either of them...

really?

thats weird cuz i could've sworn your sig said you were asphalt on s4...guess there's 2

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author: [email protected] time: 2015-8-28 13:48:42

purebeast007 replied at 2015-8-28 13:13
i dont use either of them...

Buddy I understand okay. You apparently can't get around the other characters with your team when they get the increase in fury. You can't figure it out to the point you would rather screw the game up so you can pat yourself on the back and act like a big boy. I'm sorry to tell you fury increases is a separate part of the attack not the same part. You do the attack then hit or miss you get the additional effects. Now then since we've talked about that how about you shut your mouth about it and walk on to your next complaint or better yet keep running your mouth and everyone else can just ignore your simple complaints that you apparently don't have time to think about yourself. Good day.

author: TheBadTouch time: 2015-8-28 16:36:59

purebeast007 replied at 2015-8-28 13:11
nah i made him look like a straight fool, but that's nor here or there... this isnt a topic about ...

Tbh, if it was changed so the effect doesn't work when you miss the opponent, it's going to put a lot more value on having true t1. For f2p/low vip, having kisuke throw fury at the whole team regardless is a life saver. It really can help equalize the playing field (even a marginal benefit for the low vip'ers is still a benefit). But I definitely do see your point that logically it doesn't make sense, but you could theoretically think about it as a separate entity from the attack itself. I could come up with an example to help explain this but I don't think it's really needed.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-8-28 16:59:40

The reason it still takes effect is because dodge =/= immunity. We already have a status that let's people not be affected by debuffs and such. No need to turn dodge into a copy of the immunity ability that Shini Yoruichi has.

author: purebeast007 time: 2015-8-29 16:52:23

sirnibbles replied at 2015-8-28 13:44
really?

thats weird cuz i could've sworn your sig said you were asphalt on s4...guess there's 2

that's Nel and Yachiru... who the hell calls them what u did... i honestly didnt even understand what u even meant

author: purebeast007 time: 2015-8-29 16:55:12

[email protected] replied at 2015-8-28 13:48
Buddy I understand okay. You apparently can't get around the other characters with your team when ...

well... you seem rather upset that i brought this up... mind posting ur 5 man team formation? lol.. because no one would ever sound this mad over something that would make sense to change if they werent abusing it themselves... and you honestly need to learn some respect how to talk to people on here, if i had any power you would have a timeout till you mature..

author: purebeast007 time: 2015-8-29 16:58:14

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-8-28 16:59
The reason it still takes effect is because dodge =/= immunity. We already have a status that let's ...

you arent turning it into an immunity ability.. , so i guess we can just sit around and let these kids with 0 hit stones on their mana givers that gain 100% fury anyway every time they cast... the logic is not there...

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-8-29 16:59:39

purebeast007 replied at 2015-8-29 16:52
that's Nel and Yachiru... who the hell calls them what u did... i honestly didnt even understand w ...

gamuza dn yachiru

you mean you didnt understand gamuza nel even though thats her what it says above her head

nor did you understand yachiru

??lqlwut

author: Sh4rk3y time: 2015-8-29 17:07:24

purebeast007 replied at 2015-8-29 22:58
you arent turning it into an immunity ability.. , so i guess we can just sit around and let these ...

But.. you just said Kisuke was only an example and you were talking about debuffs.. And now you are referring again about fury recovery on dodge?
Make your mind up.

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2015-8-29 17:07:33

purebeast007 replied at 2015-8-29 21:55
well... you seem rather upset that i brought this up... mind posting ur 5 man team formation? lol. ...

if i had any power you would have a timeout till you mature

maybe you should be quiet... for at least a little while. Power? There is none, from no-one.

People like Kisuke have 2 different things whilst happening on their skill, one that is the attack (growth rate included, who they attack etc.) And the abilities it gives off.

Your Gamuza Nel, same thing, has the ability for it to attack (Attacking assaulters or whatever), and decreasing their hit rate (After ability)

If you're really complaining about this, this should happen to your partners too remember, then your Gamuza can't do its -Hit Rate % Decrease ability.

Also you didn't understand what Gamuza and Yachiru is, really? Are you lying so you can't feel shame in certain areas as an excuse?

Your problem is futile, and it's only due to the fact that you have certain partners that are countered by fury gain.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-8-29 17:07:37

purebeast007 replied at 2015-8-29 16:58
you arent turning it into an immunity ability.. , so i guess we can just sit around and let these ...

Yes, yes it is. How the hell would they miss their own partners? Do their own partners dodge the fury given to them? Are you really that mental?

Also yes it would turn dodge into the exact same thing as invulnerability. The only difference between dodge and Shini Yoruichi's invulnerability buff is that hers makes her not affected by debuffs.

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-8-29 17:09:27

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-8-29 17:07
maybe you should be quiet... for at least a little while. Power? There is none, from no-one.

yeh it was bad enough with the thread in general then he didnt "understand" gamuza and yachiru

not understanding gamuza is stupid but i can sort of understand it but idk what kind of drugs hes on not to know yachiru

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2015-8-29 17:09:39

Also its the same damn thing as having a partner that gives Crit rate to himself

so what, if he misses, he wont get a crit rate increase? <-- stupid, absolutely stupid.

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2015-8-29 17:11:02

sirnibbles replied at 2015-8-29 22:09
yeh it was bad enough with the thread in general then he didnt "understand" gamuza and yachiru

no ...

i'm kinda pissed about his 'power' statement

also yeah, as i said, think he's just trying to hide the factor of a 'losing' situation, trying to make his argument seem non-biased when it clearly is EXTREMELY biased; he was lying

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-8-29 17:11:49

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-8-29 17:11
i'm kinda pissed about his 'power' statement

also yeah, as i said, think he's just trying to hide ...

i really thought a year later he'd be different but he's actually the exact same...

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2015-8-29 17:13:55

sirnibbles replied at 2015-8-29 22:11
i really thought a year later he'd be different but he's actually the exact same...

i saw that thread, i laughed

i saw this thread, i laughed

yeah same old-same old.

I'm also kinda weirded out that he can't say to himself that there are 2 parts (or more) to a skill, the attack, and the effects.

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-8-29 17:22:46

GUYS, we have to quit being mean, he has tosen

@purebeast: in case you dont know who that is its the black dude

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2015-8-29 17:34:01

sirnibbles replied at 2015-8-29 22:22
GUYS, we have to quit being mean, he has tosen

@purebeast: in case you dont know who that is its th ...

eh i can't

power statement he made got me fucked up against him xDD

author: Sh4rk3y time: 2015-8-29 17:36:03

sirnibbles replied at 2015-8-29 23:22
GUYS, we have to quit being mean, he has tosen

@purebeast: in case you dont know who that is its th ...

But even Tosen senpai would look away in this case.

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-8-29 17:38:01

Would be funny if nothing worked if you miss.. have fun beating shini yoruichi, unohana and ryuken

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-8-29 17:38:52

Brahmastra replied at 2015-8-29 17:38
Would be funny if nothing worked if you miss.. have fun beating shini yoruichi, unohana and ryuken

LEL

author: purebeast007 time: 2015-8-29 18:57:35

Sh4rk3y replied at 2015-8-29 17:07
But.. you just said Kisuke was only an example and you were talking about debuffs.. And now you are ...

no... i was speaking about ALL spells debuffs or buffs... if the character misses neither debuffs or buffs should be applied due to LOGIC.

author: purebeast007 time: 2015-8-29 18:59:21

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-8-29 17:07
maybe you should be quiet... for at least a little while. Power? There is none, from no-one.

difference is my Nel never misses... these players characters going against me... are always missing, so what are you trying to get at?
and he did not say Nel and Yachiru ... unless he editted

author: purebeast007 time: 2015-8-29 19:00:47

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-8-29 17:07
Yes, yes it is. How the hell would they miss their own partners? Do their own partners dodge the f ...

this whole topic flew over ur head...

author: purebeast007 time: 2015-8-29 19:01:41

sirnibbles replied at 2015-8-29 17:09
yeh it was bad enough with the thread in general then he didnt "understand" gamuza and yachiru

no ...

he did not say Yachiru...................... he editted his post

author: purebeast007 time: 2015-8-29 19:02:04

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-8-29 17:09
Also its the same damn thing as having a partner that gives Crit rate to himself

so what, if he mis ...

how is that stupid? it's nothing but logical

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-8-29 19:02:50

purebeast007 replied at 2015-8-29 19:01
he did not say Yachiru...................... he editted his post

did i?

is that why there's a thing saying i editted?

oh wait...

author: purebeast007 time: 2015-8-29 19:03:05

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-8-29 17:13
i saw that thread, i laughed

i saw this thread, i laughed

you laughed because im speaking about something that absolutely makes ZERO sense... please elaborate sir

author: purebeast007 time: 2015-8-29 19:04:56

sirnibbles replied at 2015-8-29 19:02
did i?

is that why there's a thing saying i editted?

i editted my first post (yes i did)... why isnt there a thing that says i editted? ...

o wait... ur excused...

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-8-29 19:07:11

purebeast007 replied at 2015-8-29 19:04
i editted my first post (yes i did)... why isnt there a thing that says i editted? ...

o wait... ...

oh wait, actually you're right, my bad

instead of writing yachiru i wrote little pink haired female, srry bout that

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-8-29 19:13:53

purebeast007 replied at 2015-8-29 19:00
this whole topic flew over ur head...

Yeah, it totally flew over my head. I understand nothing about this game at all. Please teach me to be as amazing as you are senpai. I must learn from your amazing wisdom.

author: purebeast007 time: 2015-8-29 19:38:36

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author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2015-8-29 19:45:49

purebeast007 replied at 2015-8-30 00:38
this thread has been moved to here: http://forums.gogames.me/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=22005

no ...

really moving it? fine then

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