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author: NarutoGodson time: 2015-9-15 19:06:05 Title: Ashisogi Jizo or Kazeshini

yea ik that we get ashisogi jizo after 80, but which one is better for both PVP and PVE purposes? maybe kazeshini? thats my opinion, please state yours ^^

author: Dotiie time: 2015-9-15 19:38:20

Edited by Dotiie at 2015-9-16 00:39

U get jizo at lvl 75
Kazeshini is the best f2p zanp for pvp and pve
this shouldn't be a question, jizo is useless in pve

author: WhiteAutumn time: 2015-9-15 20:08:57

jizo is good for 1-1-3 and other but limited chances but overall kazeshini is is overall better wise

author: @ra5h_V time: 2015-9-15 20:14:49

not only buff kazeshini also has debuff. whit this zanpaktu fortify i start wondering if 2 ppl use kazeshini both are equal in other hand sameone should use 3-1-1 for not be affected at this senario

author: WhiteAutumn time: 2015-9-15 20:50:13

Meh personally I use tengen for my 1-2-2

author: NarutoGodson time: 2015-9-16 04:34:26

Dotiie replied at 2015-9-16 00:38
U get jizo at lvl 75
Kazeshini is the best f2p zanp for pvp and pve
this shouldn't be a question, ji ...

thanks !

author: NarutoGodson time: 2015-9-16 04:34:58

WhiteAutumn replied at 2015-9-16 01:08
jizo is good for 1-1-3 and other but limited chances but overall kazeshini is is overall better wise

1-1-3 supporters?

author: NarutoGodson time: 2015-9-16 04:35:25

WhiteAutumn replied at 2015-9-16 01:50
Meh personally I use tengen for my 1-2-2

tengen isn't useless?

author: MysticZangetsu time: 2015-9-16 05:16:17

NarutoGodson replied at 2015-9-16 04:35
tengen isn't useless?

tengen useless omg...dont be noob plzzzzzzzzzzz....all zampakuto have specialist noobbbbbb!

author: NarutoGodson time: 2015-9-16 05:30:39

MysticZangetsu replied at 2015-9-16 10:16
tengen useless omg...dont be noob plzzzzzzzzzzz....all zampakuto have specialist noobbbbbb!

well, I didn't claim that tengen is useless, I just asked if it is or not
and yea, thanks for calling me a noob, while you aint perfect yourself !

author: MysticZangetsu time: 2015-9-16 07:05:46

NarutoGodson replied at 2015-9-16 05:30
well, I didn't claim that tengen is useless, I just asked if it is or not
and yea, thanks for call ...

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US

author: MysticZangetsu time: 2015-9-16 07:18:25

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US

author: NarutoGodson time: 2015-9-16 07:51:14

MysticZangetsu replied at 2015-9-16 12:05
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid=56013736556190178&aid=54&t=1&lang=en_US

well doesn't that depends on how you use it? ;)

author: NarutoGodson time: 2015-9-16 07:58:40

MysticZangetsu replied at 2015-9-16 12:18
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid=56013749441092852&aid=54&t=1&lang=en_US

and btw its my theory though,
you can clearly see that guy with kazeshini is weaker than the guy with jizo, arena battle depends on reiatsu too and that jizo guy has lvl 44, while kazeshini guy has just 34 which is a great difference and that guy with kazeshini hasn't done much in the game...
show me a battle report with that jizo guy using kazeshini and is Hogyo-kai then i'll approve it

author: MysticZangetsu time: 2015-9-16 09:52:17

jizo more good then kazeshini

author: MysticZangetsu time: 2015-9-16 10:04:09

NarutoGodson replied at 2015-9-16 07:58
and btw its my theory though,
you can clearly see that guy with kazeshini is weaker than the guy ...

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US

see how good jizo

author: WhiteAutumn time: 2015-9-16 10:06:35

NarutoGodson replied at 2015-9-16 04:35
tengen isn't useless?

no he's better for 1-1-3 or use for his skill

author: NarutoGodson time: 2015-9-16 11:47:20

MysticZangetsu replied at 2015-9-16 15:04
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid=56014883312468979&aid=54&t=1&lang=en_US

see how go ...

well, I've just played with kazeshini until now, and i'm asking for your opinions not asking for an argument

after I get lvl 75 I'll see for that myself ;)

author: Suzuken time: 2015-9-16 11:56:22

MysticZangetsu replied at 2015-9-16 18:04
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid=56014883312468979&aid=54&t=1&lang=en_US

see how go ...

you really saying that jizo is better than kazi just because you won VS someone who is probably has 50-60k bp less than you ??hell i can defeat half my server using wabisuke .. that doesn't mean that it's better than the zanpaktu that they are using ..

author: Suzuken time: 2015-9-16 11:59:14

NarutoGodson replied at 2015-9-16 19:47
well, I've just played with kazeshini until now, and i'm asking for your opinions not asking for a ...

look what kazi can do

without that speed i would have got destroyed xD
http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... ;t=1&lang=en_US

author: NarutoGodson time: 2015-9-16 15:55:03

Suzuken replied at 2015-9-16 16:56
you really saying that jizo is better than kazi just because you won VS someone who is probably ha ...

yea bruh, that guy just wants to claim that jizo is better, cuz that guy with jizo won and that guy with kazeshini wasn't better than that guy with jizo (sorry if you don't understand xD)

author: NarutoGodson time: 2015-9-16 15:55:27

Suzuken replied at 2015-9-16 16:59
look what kazi can do without that speed i would have got destroyed xD
http://logineu.gogames.m ...

against a vip xD I'm impressed

author: Suzuken time: 2015-9-16 15:59:35

NarutoGodson replied at 2015-9-16 23:55
against a vip xD I'm impressed

i've beaten a handful of vip's in csb

and i'm rank 17 in my csb now and yeah kazishine is better in 1-3-1 and 2-2-1 while jizo is the best in 3-1-1 only

author: angel4you07 time: 2015-9-16 19:15:46

Suzuken replied at 2015-9-17 00:56
you really saying that jizo is better than kazi just because you won VS someone who is probably ha ...

damn.....you know why i say jizo more good??? because it refine more good dude...thats 2 my account and i push sado same evo and equip all +20 lv80(same dmg)...and jizo give dmg to van more then kazeshini...and jizo have good health...kazeshini???tho jizo have ignite....1 more special jizo is...he good for inteligent main type...damn noob who say kaze more good then jizo

author: angel4you07 time: 2015-9-16 19:32:04

remember kazeshini not give dmg to van....jizo suitable for starrk...and dmg starrkk get high then using kazeshini...1st i use kazeshini dude...then i realize kazeshini just give dmg to asault...but when your asault all dead what happening???van be chicken wait for die???

author: angel4you07 time: 2015-9-16 19:32:55

yes its true Kazeshini good on pve...but not good for pvp...

author: Suzuken time: 2015-9-17 06:40:14

Edited by Suzuken at 2015-9-17 15:00

angel4you07 replied at 2015-9-17 03:15
damn.....you know why i say jizo more good??? because it refine more good dude...thats 2 my accoun ...

calling someone noob isn't gonna make you sound smart, this "Noob" has been playing this game from the it had 62 servers only plus you have no idea what you are balablaing about .. "jizo gives more damage to sado" both Kazi and jizo have -40% damage rate friend and one more thing jizo's fortify gives more hp to vanguard while kazi give damage to vanguard and assaulter line ..... now after you learn how to play this game come again and feel free to prove me wrong and call me a "noob" .... Jesus ... "Kazi is good for Pve but not PvP" ... lol ..

author: [email protected] time: 2015-9-17 07:15:29

Tengen is not uselles, but just because i'm in that mood seeing all the smart guys here, it's the worst piece of crap zanpakuto ever, along with jizo. What now forum bullies??

author: [email protected] time: 2015-9-17 07:18:47

Suzuken replied at 2015-9-17 12:40
calling someone noob isn't gonna make you sound smart, this "Noob" has been playing this game from ...

Don't try to explain yourself. That guy fired the noob on the begining of the post like he's chinen kota, and the other one tried to be smart on two posts, then said kazeshini is good in pve, but not for pvp...

author: Suzuken time: 2015-9-17 07:18:51

[email protected] replied at 2015-9-17 15:15
Tengen is not uselles, but just because i'm in that mood seeing all the smart guys here, it's the wo ...

how fucking dare you ?? Wabikue is the best zanpakuto .... kazi isn't good for pvp ... tengen is only pve zanpakuto .... pls ..
lol
smart guys ..
haha

author: Suzuken time: 2015-9-17 07:21:07

[email protected] replied at 2015-9-17 15:18
Don't try to explain yourself. That guy fired the noob on the begining of the post like he's chine ...

yeah it's kinda funny.. after nearly a year of playing that was the first time someone claims the kazi isn't good for pvp but only good for pve .... the irony lol

author: [email protected] time: 2015-9-17 07:21:42

Suzuken replied at 2015-9-17 13:18
how fucking dare you ?? Wabikue is the best zanpakuto .... kazi isn't good for pvp ... tengen is o ...

I'll use wabisuke for my starrk cause he had -30% on vanguard, and i'll switch to ruri'rokujaku when i fell thah my supp. aren't coping up well

author: [email protected] time: 2015-9-17 07:23:18

Suzuken replied at 2015-9-17 13:21
yeah it's kinda funny.. after nearly a year of playing that was the first time someone claims the ...

Let's end it here, not worth discussing it more, then we're no better then them. Let's noob on the other thread

author: Suzuken time: 2015-9-17 07:23:30

[email protected] replied at 2015-9-17 15:21
I'll use wabisuke for my starrk cause he had -30% on vanguard, and i'll switch to ruri'rokujaku wh ...

^ genius

author: Suzuken time: 2015-9-17 07:24:55

[email protected] replied at 2015-9-17 15:23
Let's end it here, not worth discussing it more, then we're no better then them. Let's noob on the ...

you're right am kinda bored xD gonna go check today's "who is better ikkaku or kensei" threads ... lol

author: angel4you07 time: 2015-9-17 08:12:14

Suzuken replied at 2015-9-17 19:40
calling someone noob isn't gonna make you sound smart, this "Noob" has been playing this game from ...

so later we see on CSB...then i stop your less talk...i already use that zampakuto till lv120 dude..it useless last because no hp...easy die...hope only on stone...so dont talk to much...u think dmg give you win the game?? you only lv87 then talk big...wtf...you really noob

author: Suzuken time: 2015-9-17 08:25:37

Edited by Suzuken at 2015-9-17 16:28

angel4you07 replied at 2015-9-17 16:12
so later we see on CSB...then i stop your less talk...i already use that zampakuto till lv120 dude ...

first of all I am level 90...
i don't know where you got the logic that dmg doesn't help but okay ... good for you ..but you still don't have the right to call me noob,when you improve your grammar come back again and do whatever you feel like doing
pls just to point out how stupid you are

it useless last because no hp...easy die...hope only on stone

this is called taking damage . so yeah damage won't win you the game .. being an idiot will win you every match you have
gg bro

author: NarutoGodson time: 2015-9-17 10:58:46

Suzuken replied at 2015-9-16 20:59
i've beaten a handful of vip's in csb and i'm rank 17 in my csb now and yeah kazishine is bette ...

3-1-1 you mean 3 sup right?

author: Suzuken time: 2015-9-17 11:01:09

NarutoGodson replied at 2015-9-17 18:58
3-1-1 you mean 3 sup right?

correct

author: NarutoGodson time: 2015-9-17 11:01:09

angel4you07 replied at 2015-9-17 00:15
damn.....you know why i say jizo more good??? because it refine more good dude...thats 2 my accoun ...

seriously? why call others noob? are you saying that you are the most perfect guy in this game?

author: NarutoGodson time: 2015-9-17 11:02:49

Suzuken replied at 2015-9-17 16:01
correct

oh damn this post has been argument place

author: Suzuken time: 2015-9-17 11:05:29

NarutoGodson replied at 2015-9-17 19:02
oh damn this post has been argument place

he wasn't even smart enough to make me argue seriously .. just another guy who think he knows everything just because he can defeat kira in trail tower with jizo .. if i was serious i could have burned that kid to the ground but ehh just like Antonio said not worth the trouble

author: NarutoGodson time: 2015-9-18 04:12:53

Suzuken replied at 2015-9-17 16:05
he wasn't even smart enough to make me argue seriously .. just another guy who think he knows ever ...

hahahah poor soul R.I.P

author: TheGoldenFlash time: 2015-9-18 04:18:14

Everyone knows that kazeshini is better in most of the places(I pumped a lot of knowledge in my brain with thous treats I am creating every day

). Jizo is good only in 2 cases:
1. You are using 3-1-1 formation.
2. You are using stunners based team (Gin and tavern aizen for example).

author: angel4you07 time: 2015-9-19 14:51:32

Suzuken replied at 2015-9-18 00:05
he wasn't even smart enough to make me argue seriously .. just another guy who think he knows ever ...

talk big later you will see..who are smart you or me...brainless play like you sure think kazeshini better

author: Suzuken time: 2015-9-19 14:57:38

angel4you07 replied at 2015-9-19 22:51
talk big later you will see..who are smart you or me...brainless play like you sure think kazeshin ...

there is no such thing as "better" both zanpakutos has their own strengths and weaknesses and pvp/pve but over all Kazishine is better,i don't talk big i simply say the truth i'll leave talking big to the likes of you

author: angel4you07 time: 2015-9-19 15:10:17

all zampakuto have specialist but if kaze fight kaze mean that kaze be useless becoz the buff + and - back...no +dmg...but jizo have ignite so not worry about -dmg by kaze
and kaze never have buff def on van...so when you use starrkk he easy dead....if his hp low...on max lvl 120++ kaze will be useless cause hp only hope on stone+equip...but jizo have ++hp so you life more high then it....watch my game back how much sado hp dude..if i change starrkk..it can get 800-900k hp so i can def longer and dmging enemy..and maybe yes stunning good for jizo...so when you use jizo you main need being wisdom hero...and the dmg deal to enemy van better then use physical....you know like magician????you play others game??? magic rule the war same like this game because van dont have better kido def..

author: angel4you07 time: 2015-9-19 15:22:17

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US

this fighting i think he better then me because my enemy got kenpachi Mod+ultimate Physical dmg but he never give deal big dmg to me...why(GO WASH YOUR BRAIN THEN YOU CAN THINK)??? his dmg like 69k...and my van def only 40k...and 31k kidodef...btw i use blue mod...you know right how many far his mod from mine mod???? kenpachi mod??? or druid mod????

author: angel4you07 time: 2015-9-19 15:32:16

btw dont see because kaze have dmg he more better then others...calculate 1st..what will happen when last lvl....that y i say you noob(for suzuken)..like people said dont jugde by it cover....

author: NarutoGodson time: 2015-9-19 15:32:59

angel4you07 replied at 2015-9-19 20:22
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid=56043857162125692&aid=54&t=1&lang=en_US

this fightin ...

well I must say I'm impressed !
that's awesome BR I rate it 10/10 (still a noob ik)
but that vanguard is god man, ill think of getting jizo and try it

author: moustafakhalife time: 2015-9-23 13:42:04

Ashisogi for a 2-2-1 formation if your main is kido.
If not use Kazeshini, it is a great zanpakuto!!

Greetz

author: NarutoGodson time: 2015-9-24 13:29:36

moustafakhalife replied at 2015-9-23 18:42
Ashisogi for a 2-2-1 formation if your main is kido.
If not use Kazeshini, it is a great zanpakuto!! ...

mkay!!!!!!!! XD

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-1 12:08:26

i adore jizo. i got the buggered as its an underrated gem for it inability to hold up any really sustaining qualities to have it be in top 5 Zanpakutos.
Kazeshini is good for most things, so use that. but if you just want a little more hp out of everyone as a whole and you already have good speed and all that, then Ashi is cool. but not good for ryoka and spirit.

author: asunayuki time: 2015-11-4 04:37:16

I think Tensa Zangetsu is better

author: donn_ds time: 2016-6-26 16:20:40

asunayuki replied at 2015-11-4 11:37
I think Tensa Zangetsu is better

Katen is the best.

author: absolboy101 time: 2016-11-29 22:33:46

And Ryujin jakka is better

author: Pavilox time: 2017-5-19 21:50:58

Minazuki is better RAWR

author: xkxllua time: 2017-5-19 22:45:20

JIZO is more usefull than kazishini in void,but in pvp kazishini is batter than jizo,

author: xkxllua time: 2017-5-19 22:46:29

use kazishini both pvp and pve,other wise use jizo in void,

author: [email protected] time: 2017-5-20 00:57:36

Jizo is only for 1-1-3 formation though.

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