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author: SosaRey    time: 2015-9-24 23:02:19     Title: Question about block cap

I believe the cap for block is 90%, if I'm not mistaken, but if the partner, particularly vanguard has a mod that adds additional block plus can surpass block cap, then I believe the limit can be surpassed.  

What I'd like to know is about stark.  If I have a stark with let's say 85% block, and he enters a battle, and then he skills.  From what I've seen in his skill he adds 15% block.  Since he has no block mod, my question is, would the block  become 90% because of the cap or would it be 100%?

author: elitegio    time: 2015-9-24 23:16:40

Starks block caps out at 90% since he doesn't have a block mod like Hallow ichigo. Just because he has the skill that increases his block doesn't mean he gets the increase over 90%. In  short he doesn't go over 90%.
author: noctustheking    time: 2015-9-24 23:42:35

the only other way to go past that initial block is through EVO that grans bonus block
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-9-24 23:54:29

noctustheking replied at 2015-9-25 08:42
the only other way to go past that initial block is through EVO that grans bonus block

which is very low too, 6.05% at final evo.
author: noctustheking    time: 2015-9-25 00:28:55

ajoalex replied at 2015-9-24 23:54
which is very low too, 6.05% at final evo.

in the end people will have 90% break defence only as long as the block is higher you will block most the time
author: SosaRey    time: 2015-9-25 02:48:22

noctustheking replied at 2015-9-25 00:28
in the end people will have 90% break defence only as long as the block is higher you will block m ...

Hmm so hol. ichigo would be better then at blocking.  Since his 3rd mod increases the block cap.  So the block and the aid should be pretty good for him.  
author: noctustheking    time: 2015-9-25 03:31:30

SosaRey replied at 2015-9-25 02:48
Hmm so hol. ichigo would be better then at blocking.  Since his 3rd mod increases the block cap.   ...

yep although even though it does say break limit cap to get passed 90% there is actually like another cap set in place as to not break the game lol. So it gets capped around 120-130% and you wont get anymore than that. for some partners in my server they cant seem to get past 115% depends on the partner and the evo i suppose
author: iz4n4minok4mi    time: 2015-9-25 06:33:57

Hmm it is not so hot trust me.. My h. ichigo has 102% block with mod and he hardly ever blocks anyone at the lvl I am fighting.. Most ppl over lvl 100 have atleast 90% break def on partners they rely on for dmg. So you are basically left with 12% chance to block an attack... Though I must say I didnt know that the buff through skill cant go over the cap, how do you even know it cant? You cant check the stats of a partner during the fight so there is no way how you can find out if it does or not..
author: theguyinblack    time: 2015-9-25 06:43:11

iz4n4minok4mi replied at 2015-9-25 11:33
Hmm it is not so hot trust me.. My h. ichigo has 102% block with mod and he hardly ever blocks anyon ...

can you post a screenshot of your H.Ichigo's Evo ? (lv11)
author: TanakaAiri    time: 2015-9-25 07:30:35

Ok so if this is the case for stark, does it make sense to stack anymore block on him once he's past 80% block since his skill will not surpass that 90% cap? And if according to iz4n (sorry ur name's too long) lol his ichigo has 102% and still gets a full hit, I don't think that 6% from full evo (which I don't think ill do on him anyway) makes a difference. So should i start investing else where? Crit maybe?
author: theguyinblack    time: 2015-9-25 07:58:13

TanakaAiri replied at 2015-9-25 12:30
Ok so if this is the case for stark, does it make sense to stack anymore block on him once he's past ...

actually his skill does surpass the 90% cap to 105%
it's the same case with the difference between "add 10 crit rate" & "add 10 crit dmg" ... they don't mean the same thing.
author: bwg2469    time: 2015-9-25 13:28:20

TanakaAiri replied at 2015-9-25 04:30
Ok so if this is the case for stark, does it make sense to stack anymore block on him once he's past ...

I would put 90% of stones, the skill goes past the rate BUT break will lower it. So 115% block minus 90% break only gives you 25% block rate. So my example is my VG kenny, he has 92.5% with evo, 15% mod with mod and 30% from cute is a 137.5% block rate for me - 90% = 47.5% effective block which is nuts LOL. Everyone should focus on break because let's say you only have 40% now, i'm at 97.5% block and you're FUCKED.

P.S my evo isn't maxed out
author: theguyinblack    time: 2015-9-25 13:31:24

iz4n4minok4mi replied at 2015-9-25 18:13
Here is the hollow ichigo evo, pretty much useless given that he is more defensive oriented.. woul ...

please re-upload it i can't see it...
author: iz4n4minok4mi    time: 2015-9-25 14:03:28

theguyinblack replied at 2015-9-25 13:31
please re-upload it i can't see it...

Hmm probably had bad format or something. Ok just check it here:
http://imgur.com/DgkofTM
author: theguyinblack    time: 2015-9-25 14:15:20

iz4n4minok4mi replied at 2015-9-25 19:03
Hmm probably had bad format or something. Ok just check it here:
http://imgur.com/DgkofTM

pretty lame stats for partly offensive and partly defensive VG, i'm very disappointed TT~TT even Sajin has a beter Evo stats...   
author: iz4n4minok4mi    time: 2015-9-25 14:58:15

Yeah his evo sucks... he is more def oriented than stark for example but has basically purely offensive evo... Not to mention wasted 14% combo...
author: theguyinblack    time: 2015-9-25 15:28:59

iz4n4minok4mi replied at 2015-9-25 19:58
Yeah his evo sucks... he is more def oriented than stark for example but has basically purely offens ...

yeah there gotta be a mistake why a VG would need a huge load of Combo rate ?
author: SosaRey    time: 2015-9-25 15:45:28

theguyinblack replied at 2015-9-25 15:28
yeah there gotta be a mistake  why a VG would need a huge load of Combo rate ?

Who are you talking about?
author: polarisx7    time: 2015-9-25 17:30:08

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author: bwg2469    time: 2015-9-25 17:56:43

theguyinblack replied at 2015-9-25 12:28
yeah there gotta be a mistake  why a VG would need a huge load of Combo rate ?

Until end game is released (which they never do for these games) you will never know the reason. I wouldn't be surprised of combo rate VG in the future.  
author: SosaRey    time: 2015-9-25 21:55:03

polarisx7 replied at 2015-9-25 17:30
Pair up your blocker with a partner such as Sexy Nanao or Shura Kenpachi.  They both reduce your ene ...

Meh, there are better partners than sexy nanao and as for shura kenpachi he's more pve oriented.  Could use him perhaps with a 1-3-1 formation maybe.
author: theguyinblack    time: 2015-9-26 05:01:33

SosaRey replied at 2015-9-25 20:45
Who are you talking about?

Hollowed Ichigo (lv110Tav) he have like 14% combo from Evo ...
author: theguyinblack    time: 2015-9-26 05:04:30

bwg2469 replied at 2015-9-25 22:56
Until end game is released (which they never do for these games) you will never know the reason. I ...

yeah in UN they have some VGs with like 5% combo too... but the reason is still unrevealed ...
author: Patharoth    time: 2015-9-29 03:56:42

Could be GoGames are to lazy to forward a major update that gives you 3 Vanguard slots bcuz.. it wouldn't really help you w/o positive damage/speed oriented Zanpaktous?:p
Looking at the new One Piece 2 they've just thrown into Open Beta, (Or Wallet killing, Money grinding state) U can see they've got 3 vanguard slots.. Unless that game removed Vanguard/tanks and just gave additional 3 slots for assaulters?..

U can check it out if you go to OP2s website, they've got some screenshots at the buttom of the page, just scroll down and go through the pictures.


author: SosaRey    time: 2015-9-29 17:26:53

Patharoth replied at 2015-9-29 03:56
Could be GoGames are to lazy to forward a major update that gives you 3 Vanguard slots bcuz.. it wou ...

3 vgs???? Why would anybody want 3 vanguards.  I'd prefer they add another slot for supporters instead.  
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-10-1 02:00:34

SosaRey replied at 2015-9-29 17:26
3 vgs???? Why would anybody want 3 vanguards.  I'd prefer they add another slot for supporters ins ...

i think he means just hav the extra spots open, like how u can use 3 assaults or 3 supports, make it so u can use 3 vans if u want, that would be interesting
author: Patharoth    time: 2015-10-1 02:58:20

Edited by Patharoth at 2015-10-1 03:00

Yeah, thats what I meant, 3 spots for the ones who like to break the pattern ^^
I don't see a point to it either but..

v3-a1-s1? TSI, Demon Ichigo, God Stark - Main - Unohana? Or.. Kisuke? Or Shinso Gin? Or.. Good ol' Tavern Rukia? .. Maybe even a 3-2-0 formation ?xD The possibilities are endless o.O
Welp, and if u can afford Hyorimaru, Tensa Zangetsu or Senbon..( which would be questionable, if u couldn't, w/ the 3 vang I mentioned xD) I'd recommend using Tengen Myo'o :3 And perhaps Komamura in the formation xD
It's actualy quite funny to think about :p




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