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author: hasoonfcb    time: 2015-10-1 22:57:13     Title: Retsu unohana kenpachi vs shinigami uruhara

Whome do you prefer and why?


author: noctustheking    time: 2015-10-1 23:05:58

Both have their merits kenny unohana hits pretty damn hard and makes your lowest hp partner invincible for 2rounds, she has a better use in pve with her 400% growth rate attack, her 25% break defence bonus to supporters is nice.
Urahara is more pvp orientated he silences enemy supprots if he is faster. it terms of raw power unohana will hit  2.5 times or so as harder than urahara.
it doesnt hurt to have both lol
but between one and the other for pvp id get urahara
author: hasoonfcb    time: 2015-10-1 23:08:40

noctustheking replied at 2015-10-1 23:05
Both have their merits kenny unohana hits pretty damn hard and makes your lowest hp partner invincib ...

fair enough, i agree with that too. is Unohana good for pve? was thinking of getting a new support. currently  i have :
Toshiro vanguard
kido - ishhin - sexy yoruichi
kenny unohana - support

author: noctustheking    time: 2015-10-1 23:11:33

Edited by noctustheking at 2015-10-1 23:14
hasoonfcb replied at 2015-10-1 23:08
fair enough, i agree with that too. is Unohana good for pve? was thinking of getting a new support ...

oh hell yea kenny unohana is a god in pve with good level stones
i have her and she dishes out a crap ton of damage to ES and especially ryoka
she is also useful for those pesky 1v1 fights in hollow souls
i couldnt kill that damn executioner in gins first minion but wen i used unohana she dished out 7.5million critical damage with her skill and whiped out half his hp lol
look at it like this most people use ukitake for his 190% growth now if you were to replace him with kenny unohana your looking at 210% more damage from her
also ideally for pve you wana use 2-3-0  (3 assaulters, 2 supports, if you have senbon you can do with a VG since they wont have a -40% damage) when possible higher waves of ryoka though would require a VG to save your other partners as theyl eventually one hsot your row

author: hasoonfcb    time: 2015-10-1 23:14:59

noctustheking replied at 2015-10-1 23:11
oh hell yea kenny unohana is a god in pve with good level stones
i have her and she dishes out a cr ...

thanks alot man, and im sorry for bothering you but i have another question. for the hollow souls i seem to miss alot regardless of who i use, i guess im just too low lvl? (72 atm) and for the ryoka event i keep toshiro in becuz i have senbonzakura so i dont really get bonus dmg on my supports
author: noctustheking    time: 2015-10-1 23:16:26

Edited by noctustheking at 2015-10-1 23:17
hasoonfcb replied at 2015-10-1 23:14
thanks alot man, and im sorry for bothering you but i have another question. for the hollow souls  ...

In hollow souls it does not matter what level you are to hit them
what is require is very high hit rate depending on the minion/team you are fighting.
so in general you want 200% hit rate and above the further you keep going in order to hit them
in the group fight hit you dont need as much hit rate for some reason lol
but in general just stack all your gear into your 1v1 fighting partner to make him be able to deal with said enemyFor example gins second minion i have 260% hit rate and i still miss quite frequently lol

author: hasoonfcb    time: 2015-10-1 23:19:25

noctustheking replied at 2015-10-1 23:16
In hollow souls it does not matter what level you are to hit them
what is require is very high hit  ...

hey bro thanks again, can i ask u where i can check my hit rate? like under what tab. im really sorry for bothering you.
author: hasoonfcb    time: 2015-10-1 23:20:41

noctustheking replied at 2015-10-1 23:16
In hollow souls it does not matter what level you are to hit them
what is require is very high hit  ...

nvm bro, just found it haha xD. thanks once again

author: noctustheking    time: 2015-10-1 23:21:09

hasoonfcb replied at 2015-10-1 23:19
hey bro thanks again, can i ask u where i can check my hit rate? like under what tab. im really so ...

dont worry about it you arent bothering me this is the forums where we all help each other
click on "partners"
select any partner in general
click on "Detail"
it will drag down the list of your stats and their %'s
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-10-1 23:23:26

noctustheking replied at 2015-10-1 23:11
oh hell yea kenny unohana is a god in pve with good level stones
i have her and she dishes out a cr ...

You're at gin, wow.  I thought you were a noobie or at least around level 90s.  I haven't even beaten tosen yet, at level 115.  By the way how'd you beat him?
author: noctustheking    time: 2015-10-1 23:26:53

MikkyX replied at 2015-10-1 23:23
You're at gin, wow.  I thought you were a noobie or at least around level 90s.  I haven't even bea ...

lv 90's "newbie" lol im level 113
and tousen solo fight i just had TSI annihilate him
same for group fight i used 2-2-1 with kenny unohana shinso gin, isshin, main, TSI
if you have swp kenny he can do the trick too lol just stack it all on the VG for the solos
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-10-1 23:32:02

noctustheking replied at 2015-10-1 23:26
lv 90's "newbie" lol im level 113
and tousen solo fight i just had TSI annihilate him
same for gro ...

Nah, I lack $$$ in that formula.  Out of those I only got isshin.  By the way, were the supporters troublesome at any point?  I ask because I'm thinking of getting shinigami uruhara in ult. hero event.  He will replace aizen, which I started working on.  I know I should work on both, but since I got gin and unohana, which I generally use for all soul maps, I thought that would be enough, so I could avoid aizen, which stuns supports.

So, were the supporters pesky, or tough? I'm not sure if my fully modded retsu unohana tavern and gin will be enough, or would a support stunner like aizen be needed for that battle.
author: noctustheking    time: 2015-10-1 23:33:37

MikkyX replied at 2015-10-1 23:32
Nah, I lack $$$ in that formula.  Out of those I only got isshin.  By the way, were the supporters ...

your going to want to keep gin and aizen for gorup fight if you cant kill them off quick
their supporters will deduct your supporters fury by 75 and i forgot what the assaulters can do but you do want them stunned while isshin and ur main dish out the dmg with combos
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-10-1 23:39:28

noctustheking replied at 2015-10-1 23:33
your going to want to keep gin and aizen for gorup fight if you cant kill them off quick
their sup ...

O.K. are the supporters tough at least? Because I could use shinigami uruhara's power and my main to hopefully gravely injure supporters.  Truth be told I want shinigami uruhara to replace my current aizen, which is only 2 star modded.  Don't want to work on both, it's lost efforts there especially since I have gin to work on too.  I was thinking for the fight choosing gin shini uruhara, main, isshin and hol. ichigo, or maybe go for retsu unohana tavern, shini uruhara, gin, main hol ichigo.

I know, I know how important a support stunner is like aizen, but since he gives little amount of frags and I got to level him to decent level, that might keep my other partners back.  
author: noctustheking    time: 2015-10-1 23:42:39

MikkyX replied at 2015-10-1 23:39
O.K. are the supporters tough at least? Because I could use shinigami uruhara's power and my main  ...

yeh they can be toughies if you can dish out the damage however as a main that could deal physical damage instead of kido they get whiped out pretty fast with your aoe skill
as for using shini urahara his silence doesnt work on them but if you win the solo fight you have 2 free turns to dish out as much damage as you can before they begin to skill
but with a t1 aizen and gin you can hopefully keep them stunned all match long even if they attack once or twice because your stun didnt land you should be able to stun them next time around while they have 100% fury
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-10-1 23:45:15

Edited by MikkyX at 2015-10-1 23:47

Not gonna be easy with a kido type partner that has aoe kido damage.  
author: bwg2469    time: 2015-10-1 23:45:34

Is uno kenp really that good for pve? Who would be better with cute in a back formation?
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-10-1 23:46:18

Edited by MikkyX at 2015-10-1 23:47
noctustheking replied at 2015-10-1 23:42
yeh they can be toughies if you can dish out the damage however as a main that could deal physical  ...


I'm kido main  type so that's a big no no there.  Might need the stuns after all.  ON a different topic, I know this is out of the question, but by any chance did you buy the level 9 hogu from discount frenzy
author: noctustheking    time: 2015-10-1 23:47:40

MikkyX replied at 2015-10-1 23:46
I'm kido naub  type so that's a big no no there.  Might need the stuns after all.  ON a different ...

nah didnt buy the level 9 hogu
if you want a lv 9 hogu you can easily get 2 of them from anniversary event
and yo can use said gold spent converted into points on whatever in the point shop
that would be the smart way of doing it
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-10-1 23:49:31

Edited by MikkyX at 2015-10-1 23:51

Unohana kenpachi and cute orhime would be a good team for pve there.
author: noctustheking    time: 2015-10-1 23:50:29

bwg2469 replied at 2015-10-1 23:45
Is uno kenp really that good for pve? Who would be better with cute in a back formation?

yes kenny uno is very great for pve with her 400% growth skill rate she hits incredibly hard if you use ukitake imagin him hitting 210% harder =P
if you have cute orihime kenny uno would be nice next to her in a 2-3-0 formation
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-10-1 23:52:19

noctustheking replied at 2015-10-1 23:47
nah didnt buy the level 9 hogu
if you want a lv 9 hogu you can easily get 2 of them from annivers ...

Would it be at same price though?  I ask because 2000 gold seems somewhat cheap and somewhat expensive to me.  I wanted to know if the stats are really good, not even sure how much a level 9 hogu costs or should cost.  HOw much at anniversary?
author: noctustheking    time: 2015-10-1 23:53:15

MikkyX replied at 2015-10-1 23:49
Would it be at same price though?  I ask because 2000 gold seems somewhat cheap and somewhat expensi ...

i dont exactly remember the price but i think it was 2500? it was either between that and 3k gold (you get 2 btw) but if you spend just a tiny bit more you can snatch a tier 10 hogu with points or hyorinmaru or sogyo etc..

author: MikkyX    time: 2015-10-1 23:55:36

noctustheking replied at 2015-10-1 23:53
i dont exactly remember the price but i think it was 2500? it was either between that and 3k gold  ...

By any chance do you remember or know the name of the tier 10 hogu? Is it volan something, don't remember the name.  A couple of guys in my server have a hogu name volan.... can't remember rest, but it has very high stats, not sure what level it is.  
author: noctustheking    time: 2015-10-1 23:58:34

MikkyX replied at 2015-10-1 23:55
By any chance do you remember or know the name of the tier 10 hogu? Is it volan something, don't r ...

not sure what its called i only have tier 9 hogus a lv 8 tier 9 hogu agility wise gives 41k speed
a tier 10 would be like 10-20k more speed i believe at the same level
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-10-2 00:04:48

noctustheking replied at 2015-10-1 23:58
not sure what its called i only have tier 9 hogus a lv 8 tier 9 hogu agility wise gives 41k speed
...

Volstandig is the name.  Two guys top guys in my server have this hogu and it has very high stat.  Not sure if it's 10.  
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-10-2 00:06:54

noctustheking replied at 2015-10-1 23:58
not sure what its called i only have tier 9 hogus a lv 8 tier 9 hogu agility wise gives 41k speed
...

41k , wow geez.  Should have gotten that tier 9 hogu for 2000 gold.  That's a lot of speed.  My best hogu only gives me like 8000 speed I think, it's a rydoji one.  By the way, like how much talismans would you need or needed, if you can recall, to make it to lvl 8 on your tier 9 hogu?

I got 250, what level would that put me with a tier 9 hogu.
author: noctustheking    time: 2015-10-2 00:27:33

MikkyX replied at 2015-10-2 00:06
41k , wow geez.  Should have gotten that tier 9 hogu for 2000 gold.  That's a lot of speed.  My be ...

i believe about 300? myabe less its a rough estimate then another 110 or so to get it to lv 10
author: SeiryuSky    time: 2015-10-2 04:59:26

hasoonfcb replied at 2015-10-1 23:08
fair enough, i agree with that too. is Unohana good for pve? was thinking of getting a new support ...

In fact it is no sense... Why you dun top up for urahara in ultra and spend gold on uno in reio...
author: SeiryuSky    time: 2015-10-2 05:05:02

bwg2469 replied at 2015-10-1 23:45
Is uno kenp really that good for pve? Who would be better with cute in a back formation?

Lol bwg my friend... You even ask? I think isshin-main-mugetsu-retsuna-ori is best formation for pve otherwise it is : main-b renji-mugetsu-retsu-ori with tensa due to him surpassing both zangetsu and mura rei bonus and being zangetsu for assaulters abd mura for supp
author: Uzumakia1    time: 2015-10-2 06:01:13

Got both, but use unohana more. since supports dont have much hp. if you can make her t1 ;) you will beat most peopole. especially guys using kisuke and rukia
author: bwg2469    time: 2015-10-2 09:29:42

SeiryuSky replied at 2015-10-2 02:05
Lol bwg my friend... You even ask? I think isshin-main-mugetsu-retsuna-ori is best formation for p ...

Well if i can cheat off someone else ill do it all day. Only results matter lol. Kensei is at 102, ill test him in csb when hes 120
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