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author: ionita    time: 2015-11-6 20:07:30     Title: Sophisticated Rangiku

Edited by ionita at 2015-11-6 20:56

Hello i have a question about Rangiku Is she Any good with hyorimaru or should i go for another vanguard?
author: Cronosel    time: 2015-11-6 21:12:40

She's wonderful with Hyōrinmaru.
author: ionita    time: 2015-11-6 21:17:03

Thanks A lot should i build her around STR and AGI?
author: Cronosel    time: 2015-11-6 21:39:20

ionita replied at 2015-11-6 23:17
Thanks A lot should i build her around STR and AGI?

Strength - Hit rate - Break Def - Stamina - Counter - Block
author: polarisx7    time: 2015-11-6 22:08:58

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author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-11-6 22:39:06

i run the pair of them...   do not put agi on her, it's a waste...  she is a monster, especially with Hyorin...   with the pair you will probably want a 1-1-3, as hyorin will boost support speed, and Rangiku will give them regen...   Also, don't give me crap about her equipment, still need to SI her weapon, and nothing is Infused as my level is only 103, by 106, i'll guess she should be around 275k BP

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author: Gurr    time: 2015-11-6 23:52:54

Edited by Gurr at 2015-11-7 07:54
polarisx7 replied at 2015-11-7 06:08
Hyorinmaru gives her extra HP +70%, no dmg penalty, high recovery rate=her heals give more life.

Is high recovery rate even work on eu\us servers? Because on ru ones it isn't.
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-11-7 00:10:43

I'd say she is got with muramasa with a 1-1-3 formation.  Sure muramasa gives no bonuses nor nothing whatsoever to ther, but if youre running a 1-1-3 formation, and you have muramasa, or even without him, hyorin is still good, then you'd get the most out of her.
author: polarisx7    time: 2015-11-7 09:49:13

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author: Gurr    time: 2015-11-7 10:03:22

polarisx7 replied at 2015-11-7 17:49
Yes recovery rate is working on my US server.  At MikkyX, yes S. Rangiku is a great support vanguard ...

are you checking that with changing zan or by using calculator? 'cause every other checker just changed hyorinmaru with kazeshni (who have hess hp) and hat is wrong way to do it.
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-11-7 10:34:28

my Rangiku heals MUCH more with Hyorin than Kaze
author: Gurr    time: 2015-11-7 10:36:34

Edited by Gurr at 2015-11-7 18:39

IT IS BECAUSE OF BIGGER HP BONUS. USE FUCKING CALCULATOR. or get me in battle screen with with  heal and highlighted max HP.
author: polarisx7    time: 2015-11-7 11:03:41

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author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-11-7 11:32:58

Gurr replied at 2015-11-7 10:36
IT IS BECAUSE OF BIGGER HP BONUS. USE FUCKING CALCULATOR. or get me in battle screen with with  heal ...

you slimy cunt.  don't fucking yell at me because your a retard.  She heals MUCH more with Hyroin.  TBH it doesn't matter why.  so watch your mouth
author: Gurr    time: 2015-11-7 11:46:45

polarisx7 replied at 2015-11-7 19:03
Isn't the buff she gives 20% growth based on attack?

Nope it's based on current hp (not even on max hp)
author: Gurr    time: 2015-11-7 11:48:43

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-11-7 19:32
you slimy cunt.  don't fucking yell at me because your a retard.  She heals MUCH more with Hyroin. ...

Well gl in your simple world absent of brains.
author: polarisx7    time: 2015-11-7 11:52:53

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author: Gurr    time: 2015-11-7 11:54:24

Edited by Gurr at 2015-11-7 19:55
polarisx7 replied at 2015-11-7 19:52
I actually have Hyorinmaru so i am not using a calculator.  If the growth rate depends on attack it  ...

nope they have same stat bonuses for vans. when our ryka event will end i'll post scrins with explanations.
author: polarisx7    time: 2015-11-7 12:01:21

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author: Xallog    time: 2015-11-7 12:05:21

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author: polarisx7    time: 2015-11-7 12:06:18

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author: Cronosel    time: 2015-11-7 12:19:15

Edited by Cronosel at 2015-11-7 14:38

See guys my rengiku san with hyorin http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... d=54&t=1&lang=en_US and http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US
author: Gurr    time: 2015-11-7 13:13:38

Rang regens 20% of current hp:
http://bleach.playxp.ru/fightrep ... ;t=1&lang=ru_RU
http://bleach.playxp.ru/fightrep ... ;t=1&lang=ru_RU
Here are fights that shows how Rangiku regen works.
In 2nd figth because i cut her def and made her current hp drop more she couldn't heal herself.
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-11-7 13:33:53

Edited by MylarHyrule at 2015-11-7 13:40
Gurr replied at 2015-11-7 11:54
nope they have same stat bonuses for vans. when our ryka event will end i'll post scrins with expla ...

the heal comes from attack, and is modified by recovery rate (supposedly)
you cannot have an apples to apples comparison when you have more than one variable.  
the heal rate is different, and so is the damage rate...
basic algebra teaches us if we have more than one variable, then the best answer we can produce is an simple algorithm
With so many unknowns and variables that are present in this game, you cannot just "get a calculator" and get x=37  
you want to accuse me of "not having brains" i'll explain calmly and plainly how i do have a brain, and that you are asking for is something that is not easy to produce.  I have tested this several times and find that i average 30 to 35% more heal to both my vanguard AND the supports from her.  So if you want to sit around and be a little keyboard commando go for it, just try to pick a subject you know about..
author: Gurr    time: 2015-11-7 13:41:15

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-11-7 21:33
the heal comes from attack, and is modified by recovery rate (supposedly)
you cannot have a apples ...

look at 2 brs in post above you. heal can easily come form max hp and current hp to
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-11-7 13:45:54

Edited by MylarHyrule at 2015-11-7 13:48
Gurr replied at 2015-11-7 13:13
Rang regens 20% of current hp:
http://bleach.playxp.ru/fightreport/?rid=2273224557476306&aid=70&t=1& ...

your "proof" comes from two fights, with the same vang, yet different equipment, against a far superior opponent...   wow,  i can see why you think i'm simple...   I'd need, I don't know, battle reports with different zans, with the same equipment, against a similar powered foe, and more than 2, because this game has many flukes where stuff works very different sometimes,  or at least the US servers do. Also, the fact that you're obviously not in a US or EU server your game mechanics are different than ours...   You obviously haven't even considered the fact that we may both be right in our own servers...   You sir have won the award for simple shit...  congrats and please have a nice winter
author: Gurr    time: 2015-11-7 13:48:22

Edited by Gurr at 2015-11-7 21:56
MylarHyrule replied at 2015-11-7 21:45
your "proof" comes from two fights, with the same vang, yet different equipment, against a far sup ...

only difference is main's skill. And only thing our admins do is write to china admins about typos. And because i play no ru servers i asked if heak rete works on your servers? but all you done is some random guess without checking like must people i talked to.
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-11-7 13:53:26

Gurr replied at 2015-11-7 13:41
look at 2 brs in post above you. heal can easily come form max hp and current hp to

"heal can easily come from max HP and current HP"
this is the stupidest shit i've ever heard   
like what number would you use if you had 90,000/750,000 hp...
you can't get one value that comes from both 90k, and 750k...  plus all of my rang heals are within 10k of each other, regardless of current HP
In the US servers, the value of heal seems to come from max HP...  when i have a HP of about 500k, she heals 125k on average...you do the math, that comes out to 25%   now take from that what you will, but i can't argue with your level of stupid anymore...  as said before, please have a nice winter...
author: Gurr    time: 2015-11-7 13:59:19

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-11-7 21:53
"heal can easily come from max HP and current HP"
this is the stupidest shit i've ever heard   
li ...

Wow like i already said gl in you own "happy go lucky world". Let's just agree that you got bigger d..k and you b..bs a F cup.
author: rythen    time: 2015-11-7 14:07:54

Edited by rythen at 2015-11-7 20:16

just tested it with my rangiku, seems right to me. it's 20% of current HP http://imgur.com/TvEkLzn
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-11-10 00:16:11

Swapped some stuff,  restacked her...  till level 105 this is what she looks like!!

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author: halfmen22    time: 2015-11-10 01:55:56

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-11-10 00:16
Swapped some stuff,  restacked her...  till level 105 this is what she looks like!!

rly Nice Tits She Has there , a nice caracter rly
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-11-10 09:10:52

halfmen22 replied at 2015-11-10 01:55
rly Nice Tits She Has there , a nice caracter rly

i did mention she was RE-stacked, lol
author: TanakaAiri    time: 2015-11-10 09:12:47

she SUCKS! *incoming Mylar Rant in 3.......2..........1......




































I was only kidding D:
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-11-10 09:17:08

I've seen better,  but @ vip7 with most of my gold having went to a few sets of equipment, and some partners...   That's the best I got, lol    better than Ganju, XD
author: TanakaAiri    time: 2015-11-10 09:29:47

Hahaha nah man i'm only pulling your leg ^^, she's quite fine
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-11-10 10:13:11

TanakaAiri replied at 2015-11-10 09:29
Hahaha nah man i'm only pulling your leg ^^, she's quite fine

i know,  but I have seen much better lately since I've been showing her off...  got a toshi in my server @ 300k+   granted he IS level 110 and also stacked with Hyorin
author: asunayuki    time: 2015-11-15 10:18:49

Cronosel replied at 2015-11-7 19:19
See guys my rengiku san with hyorin http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... d=54&t=1&lang=en_US and htt ...

What level of stones do you have? I'm aiming for senbon tho
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-11-15 10:52:02

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-11-10 00:16
Swapped some stuff,  restacked her...  till level 105 this is what she looks like!!

wth
51.7% immune rate??? mine sucks so bad got only 21% :/
author: Cronosel    time: 2015-11-15 16:36:11

asunayuki replied at 2015-11-15 12:18
What level of stones do you have? I'm aiming for senbon tho

NV 9 strenght stone / Nv 9 Stamina Stones / Nv 7 Hit stones / Nv 7 break def stones / nv 9 Counter stones / Nv 9 Block stones.
author: Izan13    time: 2016-5-17 06:18:26

only VGs better than her are red names... ichibei TSI etc
author: [email protected]    time: 2016-5-17 06:30:31

Edited by [email protected] at 2016-5-17 12:32

She is a beast with hyorin, i run her with hyorin myself^^Btw, as the rest say, dont waste speed on her, as any other partner is better off with it
(I would recommend running a 1-1-3 as well, that helped me alot from lvl 90-110, then i switched to 2-2-1 with yama ^^ )

author: [email protected]    time: 2016-5-17 06:34:20

Edited by [email protected] at 2016-5-17 12:36
MylarHyrule replied at 2015-11-7 16:34
my Rangiku heals MUCH more with Hyorin than Kaze

Her heal is based on how much hp the user has, not her attack, which is why she heals more^^

She heals 20% of her current hp, so if she has 1m hp then she would heal 200k, bnut then when damaged down to 100k hp she will only heal 20k hp...
Thats pretty much her only drawback :p

(Lel, didnt see how old the responses were, rofl xD  )




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