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author: bossul12345    time: 2015-11-8 08:08:52     Title: Hyorinmaru for 3-1-1 formation

So chinese server had hyorinmaru in last ubp and I already have enough vit for it. How good would be hyorinmaru for 3-1-1 formation with stark and nel?
P.S I have quincy main.

author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-11-8 08:10:02

what are these options

anyways

Hyorin is brilliant for supporter and vanguard based formations

and if you have Starrk, how the hell can it be bad
author: Gurr    time: 2015-11-8 08:26:08

he's the best especially with noza kenny or toshiro
author: bossul12345    time: 2015-11-8 11:45:37

So Hyorinmaru is good zanpakuto if I can't get more expensive one? Then good.
author: bossul12345    time: 2015-11-9 10:03:39

I am not sure about this, because hyorin doesn't give any dmg for assaulters or supports. My friend says that he had him and he was bad.
author: TanakaAiri    time: 2015-11-9 10:14:52

It depends on how you plan to use him. Its basically a build where you rely on your VG for your main dmg source and on your supports as your backup. It's a defensive setup. So if your aim is for overall damage amongst your team hyorin is NOT the zanpakto for you
author: bossul12345    time: 2015-11-9 10:34:24

TanakaAiri replied at 2015-11-9 10:14
It depends on how you plan to use him. Its basically a build where you rely on your VG for your main ...

If I would get him, I would work on team what is best for hyorinmaru. The main reason why I want to get him is that I can't save my vit any more, because my bp is droping really badly. With hyourinmaru I would use: Stark, Main(10th skill), nel(later gamuza, alot of dodge on stark), Gin(later csb aizen) and yoruichi(later tavern aizen, maybe other support from future ubp).
author: bossul12345    time: 2015-11-9 10:44:12

I find battle report with hyourin, even if this man is using bad formation for him( 1-3-1) his toshiro vanguard is SO tanky.
http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... ;t=1&lang=en_US
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-11-9 11:54:06

check hyorin's zanp fortify, noza and toshiro gets more benefits if you are planning to fortify hyoni till the last lvl
author: bossul12345    time: 2015-11-9 12:01:14

ajoalex replied at 2015-11-9 11:54
check hyorin's zanp fortify, noza and toshiro gets more benefits if you are planning to fortify hyon ...

Can't get noza, I am only vip4.
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-11-9 12:05:25

bossul12345 replied at 2015-11-9 21:01
Can't get noza, I am only vip4.

then no probs, starrk anyways will be a wall. u get that AoE as bonus to finish off the remaining low hp partners. its so helpful in pvp especially.
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-11-9 12:54:58

Hyorin seems to be best suited to a super stacked offensive vang, ignore the assaulter, and 3 super fast control supports.  If this is the party you want, Hyorin may well be much better than Muramasa for you.  However if you want to use assaulters anytime but last, Hyorin DOES have his issues.   The whole reason I'm going for Muramasa soon,  sick of my Isshin being so slow
author: kosmik    time: 2015-11-9 13:00:00

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-11-9 12:54
Hyorin seems to be best suited to a super stacked offensive vang, ignore the assaulter, and 3 super  ...

#overrated Isshin
If you can't get murumasa, hyroin absolutely.
(Murumasa bonuses btw are Hallibel, Starrk, Aizen, CSB Aizen, Ultima)
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-11-9 13:08:34

kosmik replied at 2015-11-9 13:00
#overrated Isshin
If you can't get murumasa, hyroin absolutely.
(Murumasa bonuses btw are Hallibel ...

yeah,  when I got Isshin he still had his 100% combo rate "bug" so he was sooo worth it,  If he didn't have that bug, I'm not sure who I would have gotten, maybe even Yama...  but, he's half way paid for, so I'm in it with him.    However one purchase I never regretted was Shinzo...   I love my Shinzo
good to know Muramasa's bonuses tho
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-11-9 13:37:23

kosmik replied at 2015-11-9 22:00
#overrated Isshin
If you can't get murumasa, hyroin absolutely.
(Murumasa bonuses btw are Hallibel ...

(Murumasa bonuses btw are Hallibel, Starrk, Aizen, CSB Aizen, Ultima)

thats a kickass team right there itself. i dt think any other zanp has such a team in fortify phase attr. if only this fortify came out sooner, sigh  
author: bossul12345    time: 2015-11-9 13:38:00

What about dodge? If I am going for 3-1-1 formation I need nel(later she might get me t1) and then my stark needs dodge. What kind of stones I need to change?
P.S Now I am using block, stamina, streangt, hit, break defense and counter.
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-11-9 13:48:27

ajoalex replied at 2015-11-9 13:37
(Murumasa bonuses btw are Hallibel, Starrk, Aizen, CSB Aizen, Ultima)

thats a kickass team right  ...

check out Kaze's   that's a decent team too
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-11-9 13:49:11

bossul12345 replied at 2015-11-9 13:38
What about dodge? If I am going for 3-1-1 formation I need nel(later she might get me t1) and then m ...

for end game, disregard dodge unless you have bonus slots open...  dodge is a garbage stat past level 100ish IMO
author: kosmik    time: 2015-11-9 13:59:47

Edited by kosmik at 2015-11-9 14:02
MylarHyrule replied at 2015-11-9 13:49
for end game, disregard dodge unless you have bonus slots open...  dodge is a garbage stat past le ...


100% correct, everyone who is nearing backrow in soul map (esp if they're on Aizen) has WELL over 200% + hit.  Dodge is pretty useless imo, I would rather block and do some damage back.
author: kosmik    time: 2015-11-9 14:03:22

Screenshot just cause.
author: bossul12345    time: 2015-11-9 14:07:47

Who would be good 3 supporters for earlyer game. And after all, is it worth chenge from 2-2-1 to 3-1-1 with hyourinmaru or use kazeshini and wait for someone better?
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-11-9 14:59:28

bossul12345 replied at 2015-11-9 14:07
Who would be good 3 supporters for earlyer game. And after all, is it worth chenge from 2-2-1 to 3-1 ...

at level 80...   Harribel, Yourichi, Jushiro.  but you will need to make your main and jushiro super strong to kill the controlled people  make Harribel and Yourichi super fast, and your vanguard (probably sajin) super tanky with good block.  make your main's skill the one that controls vanguard.  trust me it helps with a control party...  of course Jushiro can be replaced by shinzo,  cause it's shinzo, lol
author: bossul12345    time: 2015-11-9 15:07:59

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-11-9 14:59
at level 80...   Harribel, Yourichi, Jushiro.  but you will need to make your main and jushiro sup ...

I am lvl 92, have ukitake and se him for pve, now I can use him in pvp. Later in lvl 100 I will get stark and gin.
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-11-11 11:24:46

bossul12345 replied at 2015-11-9 20:07
Who would be good 3 supporters for earlyer game. And after all, is it worth chenge from 2-2-1 to 3-1 ...

No reason to must must go 1-1-3. I use hyorin with 1-2-2. Only if you're using ghost or spirit blade characters (I'm kido), cause then you would need to distribute strenght stones between 3 characters, even then you can eventually. Don't rush anything.

Btw anyone will agree give with this... on that nell starrk dodge combo, forget about it. If you use hyorin when dodging you can't block, and you wan't to block.

Muramasa is also good, but don't think he's from some other planet, muramasa is same tier ar hyorin. Whatever you decide to do just forget about that dodge combo
author: bossul12345    time: 2015-11-11 11:37:53

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-11 11:24
No reason to must must go 1-1-3. I use hyorin with 1-2-2. Only if you're using ghost or spirit bla ...

Ok, I think next ubp will have Hyourinmaru(China server had him, at leas I beleave). I will get him then.
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-11-11 12:41:48

bossul12345 replied at 2015-11-9 10:03
I am not sure about this, because hyorin doesn't give any dmg for assaulters or supports. My friend  ...

your friend was an idiot, or used a 1-3-1 set up, or had no idea how to make a team
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-11-11 12:49:27

bossul12345 replied at 2015-11-11 17:37
Ok, I think next ubp will have Hyourinmaru(China server had him, at leas I beleave). I will get hi ...

Sorry I didn't read the begining of the thread good. I thought you were going to use gold to obtain him. Then all the same, whatever comes out just go for it #UBP #Muramasanext
author: bossul12345    time: 2015-11-11 12:49:31

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-11-11 12:41
your friend was an idiot, or used a 1-3-1 set up, or had no idea how to make a team

Yeah, I am going for him if he will show up in ubp fast. Toshiro always was one of my favorite characters in anime and now I can get his zanpakuto. Hyourinmaru looks like really good zanpakuto for supporters speed and it makes my vanguard really strong.
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-11-11 12:55:32

bossul12345 replied at 2015-11-11 12:49
Yeah, I am going for him if he will show up in ubp fast. Toshiro always was one of my favorite cha ...

I find the best supports to use with him are control partners as your not worried about their power.  also, Vang Toshi and Hyorin are quite nice together.  Just remember if your going to make your vanguard the star of your party, he/she needs to get the best of everything.  The rest of your party WILL suffer, but you will become a terror to your old rivals in the process, and they will become to hate your vanguard
author: bossul12345    time: 2015-11-11 14:19:56

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-11-11 12:55
I find the best supports to use with him are control partners as your not worried about their powe ...

For now I am thinking about stark, later I will see. About supporters I am thinking to use: Urahara, Gin and yoruichi. In future I will get swp aizen(I am vip4 so can't ugpr him) by the way, what does his skill do for enemy assaulters? and think to replace yoruichi with tavern aizen at lvl 110.
author: bossul12345    time: 2015-11-11 14:21:28

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-11 12:49
Sorry I didn't read the begining of the thread good. I thought you were going to use gold to obtai ...

Yeah, hyourinmaru would do good, muramasa will do really good too(maybe even better, because he don't ignore assaulters) and even zangetsu would be good, just need change my team a lot for him.
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-11-11 15:34:08

void...   it's like isshin, the opposite of fossilize basicly,   they can't move and only take damage from skills   but other than that, that seems like a solid party...  but I think Jushiro would help more than kieske...   more damage on enemies and protects your controls,  they don't need more fury as they stun for 2 rounds, and by the time the enemy can go again, their skills are already full again
author: bossul12345    time: 2015-11-11 15:42:18

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-11-11 15:34
void...   it's like isshin, the opposite of fossilize basicly,   they can't move and only take damag ...

But won't enemy get t1 faster then I cast my stun skills? I want kisuke basicaly only for that.
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-11-11 16:31:47

T1 is a $$$ game and kieske is dead slow,  he has to go first, and you need fury stones on everyone for that to be worth it.  if you can't T1 party with him, he's a wash
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-11-11 17:26:09

Edited by MylarHyrule at 2015-11-11 17:28

to make sure I'm not giving you wrong advice,  I'm going to mod my Kieske to get inital fury, and see what I can do, I'll post a battle report here in prob 2 or 3 weeks as my Kieske is only 1 star mod, so it will take a bit   if I can get my Kieske and Shinzo to T1 with fury stones to spare, I'll rent Sexy Yourichi too to T1 whole team easy, lol  full T1 team...  I'd resign Isshin to pve for that jazz for sure
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-11-11 18:39:48

bossul12345 replied at 2015-11-11 21:42
But won't enemy get t1 faster then I cast my stun skills? I want kisuke basicaly only for that.

Get kisuke, you'll use him in pve, and eventually in pvp for t1. You'll get enough fury stones as soon as you get that 1 year coupons reward. Mod him, evo him, he's not a waste of resourses like jushiro would be, even thought jushiro is really good, but he's replaceable, and that's what decides things here. Smart playing over permanent boost with replaceable partners
Mylar is a little subjective since he has shinso. If i had him, i'd probably say kisuke is shit too. You're a guy that hopes for hyorin in UBP so i guess you're no higher then vip4 if even that, go for it kisuke, you won't regreat it




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