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author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-22 00:23:47 Title: Mugetsu talk

I was... kinda hoping mugetsu would get reworked in a way to become better... I mean hes so much money... and yet kirio and kensei destroy him. I mean yeah he gives support combo rate which is great but hes slow now. We all topped up so much for him... to be outdone by trash? it just doesnt make sense... his usefullness is gonna end up being pve only.... which is stupid... hes 1,000 dollars for dennys sakes.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-11-22 00:27:03

Lol the only way they ever rework partners in this game is to downgrade them. Come on dude, you knew what you were getting into with this game. You pay a crap load of money for a partner so you can be top for a while and then it gets out classed and you have to spend again to keep up. If not then you contend with slowly losing your place to newer people. Besides, how is the zero squad trash? When you got mugetsu did you really think that whenever the royal guard ended up getting put in the game that they'd be weaker than him?

author: JianJinhai time: 2015-11-22 00:29:15

lol white ichigo was 100k gold first time he appeared, now he's free XD
(in CN atleast, so assuming he will be for us too)

author: bwg2469 time: 2015-11-22 00:31:00

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-21 21:27
Lol the only way they ever rework partners in this game is to downgrade them. Come on dude, you knew ...

Aizen would have beat Mugetsu if he didn't have Urahara setting up his kido control move in advance. SOOOOO he never was the strongest.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-11-22 00:33:06

bwg2469 replied at 2015-11-22 00:31
Aizen would have beat Mugetsu if he didn't have Urahara setting up his kido control move in advanc ...

Exactly. And Yammamoto's bankai would have fried Aizen quick time if they'd been in the Soul Society where he can actually use it. And the whole zero squad's supposedly stronger than him so really Mugetsu was never even a contender for top.

author: Shadow49999 time: 2015-11-22 00:33:21

bwg2469 replied at 2015-11-22 00:31
Aizen would have beat Mugetsu if he didn't have Urahara setting up his kido control move in advanc ...

lol true nig

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-22 00:39:24

well... i guess i just rip in pieces. i understand they can be strong.. i just think that a fury reduction 5.3 agility growth 20% speed mods and invulnerability is a bit unfair... maybe ill be able to top up again later... but.. i just wanna beat these guys somehow.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-11-22 00:43:17

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-22 00:39
well... i guess i just rip in pieces. i understand they can be strong.. i just think that a fury red ...

Funny thing is, yeah that invulnerability kind of seems like it makes it just a bit more op than necessary. But then a week later they release Oetsu, who's final mod let's him ignore invulnerability instantly outclassing her lol

author: NNatsu time: 2015-11-22 00:46:28

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-22 00:43
Funny thing is, yeah that invulnerability kind of seems like it makes it just a bit more op than n ...

I would not say oetsu outclasses hiki lol

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-22 00:48:38

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-22 00:43
Funny thing is, yeah that invulnerability kind of seems like it makes it just a bit more op than n ...

maybe they should just not let mods take a million months to access them... or not come up with stupid shit like that ya know? like mugetsu becomes immune to void which is nice but not "disarm" or some shit. i think they should retweek guys like kensei and b renji.. lose that 100 fury gain. and remove kirios invulnerability. tenjiro is balanced, oetsu is balanced as well. they did good there.

author: JianJinhai time: 2015-11-22 00:49:25

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-22 00:48
maybe they should just not let mods take a million months to access them... or not come up with st ...

thats how this kind of games work buddy.. :/

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-11-22 00:49:26

NNatsu replied at 2015-11-22 00:46
I would not say oetsu outclasses hiki lol

Well we'll find out once I get him all leveled up lol. Oh, and I did just find out that apparently his Talent is incorrect, instead of wisdom it increases agility. And it's a wopping 20%.

What's hiki's agility talent? I don't have her yet to check.
P.S. I'm going to make a thread about Oetsu's talent so more people notice.

author: JianJinhai time: 2015-11-22 00:51:38

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-22 00:49
Well we'll find out once I get him all leveled up lol. Oh, and I did just find out that apparently ...

what? who told you that his talent is 20%?

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-22 00:54:29

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-22 00:49
Well we'll find out once I get him all leveled up lol. Oh, and I did just find out that apparently ...

ohh wow... his mod givs 20% speed and his talent as well? damn... thats so nice! i only had 200 bucks tho... :/

author: NNatsu time: 2015-11-22 00:54:45

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-22 00:49
Well we'll find out once I get him all leveled up lol. Oh, and I did just find out that apparently ...

I don't know her talent either. I think it's pretty obvious if you just look at their base skills that Hiki is the better partner, their stats are debatable I guess but it's not enough for me to care. I also don't think it's fair to realistically expect to fully mod him.
Edit: Unless you plan on topping another 100k gold in the next ultimate top up and spending it all on fragments.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-11-22 00:55:48

JianJinhai replied at 2015-11-22 00:51
what? who told you that his talent is 20%?

I did, I have him. You can test any partner's talent by stripping them of everything that increases agility, strength, wisdom, or stamina and then putting a single hogyu on them. The number for the stat gain that you get as the little popup green text will be different from the amount written on the hogyu. You can just divide that number by the one on the hogyu and that's the % gain they get from the talent.

For example I have a hogyu that gives 1000 agility and when I gave it to oetsu he gained 1200 agility. Thus a 20% talent

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-11-22 00:58:20

NNatsu replied at 2015-11-22 00:54
I don't know her talent either. I think it's pretty obvious if you just look at their base skills t ...

Well I currently have enough fragments to mod him almost to 2nd mod. Got 400 of them from doing turntable with about 8k gold I think it was. So yeah it's gonna be a while til he's fully modded, but I still like what his skill does more than I like hiki's skill. Not that it matters in the long run, hiki's still next on my list to get.

author: lordmohsin time: 2015-11-22 00:58:40

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-22 00:55
I did, I have him. You can test any partner's talent by stripping them of everything that increase ...

that's insane lol. once he's fully modded. hes like the anti-hikifune lol

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-22 01:02:48

well... i dont wanna be weak for much longer guys. its been real though. and kosmo im glad ur back man.

author: JianJinhai time: 2015-11-22 01:14:41

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-22 00:55
I did, I have him. You can test any partner's talent by stripping them of everything that increase ...

i have nimaiya aswell, but never really bothered checking. so this means nimaiya is the fastest partner?.. (with 3rd mod)

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-11-22 01:18:47

JianJinhai replied at 2015-11-22 01:14
i have nimaiya aswell, but never really bothered checking. so this means nimaiya is the fastest pa ...

No, Kirinji's still faster because he gets 22% from his mods and 15% from his talent. But his talent also gives an additional 10% to speed on top of that lol. But Oetsu's definitely 2nd from what I'm seeing

author: JianJinhai time: 2015-11-22 01:19:51

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-22 01:18
No, Kirinji's still faster because he gets 22% from his mods and 15% from his talent. But his tale ...

ahh i thought kirinji was 10% + 10% natural, alright either way nimaiya would be slower, thanks!

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-11-22 01:26:34

JianJinhai replied at 2015-11-22 01:19
ahh i thought kirinji was 10% + 10% natural, alright either way nimaiya would be slower, thanks!

Yup, happy to be able to share the information!. It's why I test all of these things out as soon as I get them lol

author: JianJinhai time: 2015-11-22 01:31:14

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-22 01:26
Yup, happy to be able to share the information!. It's why I test all of these things out as soon a ...

#KosmoForMod

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-11-22 01:38:32

JianJinhai replied at 2015-11-22 01:31
#KosmoForMod

Lol no thanks, then I'd have to clean up those crappy spambot posts. Brah can keep doing it all he wants

author: maniacpkt time: 2015-11-22 01:45:20

all i can do is shake my head at this thread. as a mugetsu user myself, here's a little advice. suck it up and start planning your next move. you have tensa and the game even spoon fed you a faster partner than kirio. i think you can figure out a plan with what you have. stop whining and adjust.

author: JianJinhai time: 2015-11-22 01:58:34

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-22 01:38
Lol no thanks, then I'd have to clean up those crappy spambot posts. Brah can keep doing it all he ...

hey are u sure its 20% talent on his speed? i started his evolution and he gained 22% gains per item. 21.6%-22% each time i used anything involving agility

author: Gurr time: 2015-11-22 02:32:05

bwg2469 replied at 2015-11-22 08:31
Aizen would have beat Mugetsu if he didn't have Urahara setting up his kido control move in advanc ...

Aizen survived only because of plot armor(for a change used not on hero but on villain).

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-11-23 08:35:07

JianJinhai replied at 2015-11-22 01:58
hey are u sure its 20% talent on his speed? i started his evolution and he gained 22% gains per it ...

It's 20% talent on agility. There's nothing in evolution that gives agility so you can't test it like that.

author: 595459354 time: 2015-11-23 08:42:27

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-22 06:48
maybe they should just not let mods take a million months to access them... or not come up with stu ...

How about NO.

idk why you think kensei is better than Mugetsu to begin with..
If you can't think of a strat where Mugetsu can shine with these new partners.. the problem isn't the character it's the owner.

author: 595459354 time: 2015-11-23 08:45:52

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-22 06:58
Well I currently have enough fragments to mod him almost to 2nd mod. Got 400 of them from doing tu ...

Wait what?

You spend 8000g to get mod frags for Nimaya?

Dayum, can't wait to see that damage of yours

ps: his 80%mutilate is OP, not sure how to calculate the exact damage on mutilate... but so far it's my str.attack x2+

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-11-23 08:46:35

595459354 replied at 2015-11-23 08:45
Wait what?

You spend 8000g to get mod frags for Nimaya?

so instead of 5 its 10?

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-11-23 08:48:29

595459354 replied at 2015-11-23 08:45
Wait what?

You spend 8000g to get mod frags for Nimaya?

Nope, mutilate is the percentage of enemy hp that it removes. I tested with oetsu at level 1 against a guildy and even though oetsu did 5 damage with his attack, mangle took off exactly 80% of the enemy's max hp. It's amazing lol

author: 595459354 time: 2015-11-23 08:49:27

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-23 14:48
Nope, mutilate is the percentage of enemy hp that it removes. I tested with oetsu at level 1 again ...

Oh so that's what it means.. FUCK YEAH this is OP and yeah so far I only tested it on 3 ppl

@Nibs, kosmo is here to save the day

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-11-23 08:53:16

595459354 replied at 2015-11-23 08:49
Oh so that's what it means.. FUCK YEAH this is OP and yeah so far I only tested it on 3 ppl

@Nib ...

Yeah it's absolutely amazing. Basically whoever get that status on them is gonna have their day messed up lol

author: SeiryuSky time: 2015-11-23 08:56:03

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-23 08:48
Nope, mutilate is the percentage of enemy hp that it removes. I tested with oetsu at level 1 again ...

ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT ... DUN EVEN BOTHER WITH DICKHEAD ALVA

#F*** YOU ALVA

author: 595459354 time: 2015-11-23 08:57:02

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-23 14:53
Yeah it's absolutely amazing. Basically whoever get that status on them is gonna have their day me ...

are you gonna keep B.rukia in your formation btw?

Because you need her for his Dmg% bond

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-11-23 08:59:25

595459354 replied at 2015-11-23 08:57
are you gonna keep B.rukia in your formation btw?

Because you need her for his Dmg% bond

I plan to keep her in formation for as long as possible. Once I have hiki though and enough stones to use her effectively I'll end up replacing b rukia with her. That's gonna be a long way down the road though lol.

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-11-23 09:00:19

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-23 08:59
I plan to keep her in formation for as long as possible. Once I have hiki though and enough stones ...

WHAT

you were the original rukia person

wtf is wrong with you, has saint gotten you drunk?

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-11-23 09:04:38

sirnibbles replied at 2015-11-23 09:00
WHAT

you were the original rukia person

Like I said I'm keeping her in as long as I possibly can realistically. And honestly even once I get hiki I'll probably randomly switch her and rukia whenever I feel like it lol. The benefit of having multiple top tier partners

author: Raeace time: 2015-11-23 09:07:08

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-22 07:55
I did, I have him. You can test any partner's talent by stripping them of everything that increase ...

Did you have any mods?

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-11-23 09:11:07

Raeace replied at 2015-11-23 09:07
Did you have any mods?

First of all his mods increase speed, not agility. So it wouldn't matter if I had any. But no I don't, he's still level 1 since I'm too busy leveling Kirinji right now to even touch Oetsu lol

author: Raeace time: 2015-11-23 09:13:08

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-23 16:11
First of all his mods increase speed, not agility. So it wouldn't matter if I had any. But no I do ...

Ok, well there is always new stuff to learn. thx

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-11-23 09:17:50

Raeace replied at 2015-11-23 09:13
Ok, well there is always new stuff to learn. thx

Glad I could help ya out man. I try to test everything out as much as possible so I can build my team as perfectly as I can. So it usually ends up with me noticing things a lot of other people didn't

author: Raeace time: 2015-11-23 09:22:08

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-23 16:17
Glad I could help ya out man. I try to test everything out as much as possible so I can build my t ...

Well I'm lvl 106 who got Byakuya mid 80s and wasted time to get his 5th mod to only get him killed. xD
And now lvl 106 I'm about to replace him with Shinigami Yoruichi... ._.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-11-23 09:29:48

Raeace replied at 2015-11-23 09:22
Well I'm lvl 106 who got Byakuya mid 80s and wasted time to get his 5th mod to only get him killed ...

Lol, well it's easy to get tavern partner mods so it's not exactly a waste lol. If you've never had to deal with trying to mod event partners then prepare yourself for an entirely new hell my friend. I absolutely despise it

author: Raeace time: 2015-11-23 09:32:19

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-23 16:29
Lol, well it's easy to get tavern partner mods so it's not exactly a waste lol. If you've never ha ...

I have swp Grimmjow, he was pretty pain getting 2 fist mods with 3 frags daily, now started modding kirinji and shin yoruichi

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-11-23 09:34:40

Raeace replied at 2015-11-23 09:32
I have swp Grimmjow, he was pretty pain getting 2 fist mods with 3 frags daily, now started moddin ...

Nice, well yeah I'm not sure about swp grimmjow but I know the current red tier partners take 308 frags for 2nd tier and 528 frags for 3rd. And based on that from what I've seen from other partners 4th mod should take over 1000 >.<

author: Raeace time: 2015-11-23 09:41:00

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-23 16:34
Nice, well yeah I'm not sure about swp grimmjow but I know the current red tier partners take 308 ...

Well I use Pantera Grimmjow for pve, because I didn't bother to get Kenpachi at 90, instead I used Ikkaku + Pantera as backup for main.

author: JianJinhai time: 2015-11-23 11:06:48

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-11-23 08:35
It's 20% talent on agility. There's nothing in evolution that gives agility so you can't test it l ...

#kosmoForMod

author: MylarHyrule time: 2015-11-23 12:32:11

Raeace replied at 2015-11-23 09:41
Well I use Pantera Grimmjow for pve, because I didn't bother to get Kenpachi at 90, instead I used ...

that's a solid team, whos in back row?

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-23 12:41:52

i like my mugetsu, he great for pve

author: Raeace time: 2015-11-23 12:45:14

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-11-23 19:32
that's a solid team, whos in back row?

I use Kirinji + Gin Ichimaru pvp and Urahara + Kirinji (used to be Rukia) in pve

author: MylarHyrule time: 2015-11-23 12:58:07

Raeace replied at 2015-11-23 12:45
I use Kirinji + Gin Ichimaru pvp and Urahara + Kirinji (used to be Rukia) in pve

yeah, with ikkaku building own fury, rukia's was kinda wasted hua?

author: Raeace time: 2015-11-23 13:01:23

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-11-23 19:58
yeah, with ikkaku building own fury, rukia's was kinda wasted hua?

Well you know extra fury gives damage, but kinda was forced to use Rukia since despite her weaknesses she was better than Yoruichi and Gin in pve. Now that I got Kirinji who does damage and burn I can afford giving up on Rukia.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-23 16:06:24

595459354 replied at 2015-11-23 08:42
How about NO.

idk why you think kensei is better than Mugetsu to begin with..

The only way mugetsu wins is if I got his immune silence mod. just an FYI. I would need to disable kensei before he disarm and silences mugetsu. Disarm is still annoying with a silence tho.. and my mugetsu hasnt gotten that far yet but once he does itll be alot easier. now with kirio? hmmm.

author: 595459354 time: 2015-11-23 16:19:45

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-23 22:06
The only way mugetsu wins is if I got his immune silence mod. just an FYI. I would need to disable ...

Doubt it that kensei would be faster than mugetsu, correct me if I'm wrong.

@Hiki, get 1 of your own and you're good to go

author: JianJinhai time: 2015-11-23 16:21:56

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-23 16:06
The only way mugetsu wins is if I got his immune silence mod. just an FYI. I would need to disable ...

kensei is nowhere near the speed of mugetsu lol.. not only that, mugetsu have a 2nd speed mod while kensei doesnt.. please dont compare those two

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-23 16:34:03

595459354 replied at 2015-11-23 16:19
Doubt it that kensei would be faster than mugetsu, correct me if I'm wrong.

@Hiki, get 1 of your ...

his is using senbonsakura and im using tensa .. but once i get that 9% speed mod we will see. and yeah... kirio is annoying as hell.. ill have to get her if shes cheap thanksgiving event? idk whats gonna be there tho. I feel like im getting a strat down... but its gonna take alot of time.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-23 16:34:21

JianJinhai replied at 2015-11-23 16:21
kensei is nowhere near the speed of mugetsu lol.. not only that, mugetsu have a 2nd speed mod whil ...

refer to my above post

author: 595459354 time: 2015-11-23 17:45:04

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-23 22:34
his is using senbonsakura and im using tensa .. but once i get that 9% speed mod we will see. and ...

that makes no sense, you're still faster...

author: Shadow49999 time: 2015-11-28 18:26:26

Raeace replied at 2015-11-23 09:41
Well I use Pantera Grimmjow for pve, because I didn't bother to get Kenpachi at 90, instead I used ...

I'm gonna use pantera grimmjow at 100
I don't have ikkaku nor do I have kenpachi
lol I'm not even lv 90 yet

author: Raeace time: 2015-11-28 18:28:15

Shadow49999 replied at 2015-11-29 01:26
I'm gonna use pantera grimmjow at 100
I don't have ikkaku nor do I have kenpachi
lol I'm not even ...

I love Grimmjow.. Too bad he never fit in my pvp team.

author: Shadow49999 time: 2015-11-28 18:30:31

Raeace replied at 2015-11-28 18:28
I love Grimmjow.. Too bad he never fit in my pvp team.

lol yeah he doesn't really fit my pvp team but I still have gold ichigo
so if I doont have enough gold reishi to get tosen b4 90 I'm gonna skip getting tosen get unohana when I have enough and ill find something to do with that ichigo

author: Raeace time: 2015-11-28 18:33:03

Shadow49999 replied at 2015-11-29 01:30
lol yeah he doesn't really fit my pvp team but I still have gold ichigo
so if I doont have enough ...

I have currently Gin + Kirinji - Main + Byakuya and Komamura, soon once Shinigami Yoruichi hits lvl 100 I'll replace Byakuya with her. :3

author: Shadow49999 time: 2015-11-28 18:35:10

Raeace replied at 2015-11-28 18:33
I have currently Gin + Kirinji - Main + Byakuya and Komamura, soon once Shinigami Yoruichi hits lv ...

lol I have momo,byakuya,main,gold ichigo, komamura

author: Raeace time: 2015-11-28 18:37:38

Shadow49999 replied at 2015-11-29 01:35
lol I have momo,byakuya,main,gold ichigo, komamura

I would've gotten Yoruichi over momo. :/

author: Shadow49999 time: 2015-11-28 18:39:00

Raeace replied at 2015-11-28 18:37
I would've gotten Yoruichi over momo. :/

lol I had momo b4 I got to lv 70
now I'm waiting for unohana at lv 90

author: Raeace time: 2015-11-28 18:42:12

Shadow49999 replied at 2015-11-29 01:39
lol I had momo b4 I got to lv 70
now I'm waiting for unohana at lv 90

I mean that first you get Komamura, then you replace Momo with Yoruichi and then Buyakuya or some other lvl 80 partner, and then get Urahara, and then if you really want Unohana then you can get her.

author: Shadow49999 time: 2015-11-28 18:43:42

Raeace replied at 2015-11-28 18:42
I mean that first you get Komamura, then you replace Momo with Yoruichi and then Buyakuya or some ...

lol I'm horrible at getting gold reishi so id say that's most likely never gonna happen

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