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author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 13:42:03 Title: im thinking of buying ryuken ishida

i might buy him for the crit + dodge + b.def because he just seems very easy to stack lol, any thoughts?

author: Twixcard time: 2015-12-20 13:48:03

His dodge rate doesn't bypass the 90% limit, something to think about.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 13:48:41

Twixcard replied at 2015-12-20 13:48
His dodge rate doesn't bypass the 90% limit, something to think about.

Yes it does.

Still not worth it though imo

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 13:49:29

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 13:48
Yes it does.

Still not worth it though imo

i would assume once you hit 90%, the skill will also 30% for total 120% dodge

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 13:52:11

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 13:49
i would assume once you hit 90%, the skill will ass 30%

Yes, also his mods let him pass the 90%. They just don't say it. So he can have 150% (60% on his bonds) natural dodge, + whatever his evo gives him. So probably before skill he can be somewhere around 170% and after skill around 200% dodge

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 13:53:03

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 13:52
Yes, also his mods let him pass the 90%. They just don't say it. So he can have 150% (60% on his b ...

holy shit, rly?

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 13:53:27

welp im getting him now. XD merry cmas

author: Devvoke2 time: 2015-12-20 13:55:06

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author: Twixcard time: 2015-12-20 13:56:19

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 13:52
Yes, also his mods let him pass the 90%. They just don't say it. So he can have 150% (60% on his b ...

Ah figured it would have had the text everyone else has in the mods, glad that was cleared out.

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 13:57:10

Devvoke2 replied at 2015-12-20 13:55
nice be sure to flood us some of those insane stacked br

how do you know its 90% surpass? do you have ishida?

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 13:57:27

Edited by Kosmodestiny at 2015-12-20 14:12

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 13:53
holy shit, rly?

Yeah, he's still not worth it though. It's more than easy enough for any high level player to get enough hit rate to make that kind of dodge useless. I got 200%+ hit on all my partners and it'd be a simple matter to stack 2 or 3 to 300%+

author: I_MIKE_I time: 2015-12-20 13:57:42

I think he'd make a good pair with Brenji...

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 13:58:25

Twixcard replied at 2015-12-20 13:56
Ah figured it would have had the text everyone else has in the mods, glad that was cleared out.

Yeah it's the same as B renji's mods. They don't say they surpass 90% but they do

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 13:58:37

yeh brenji and ishida op combo

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 13:58:53

i wonder if you get extra rounds , will he get 60% dodge?

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 13:59:49

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 13:58
i wonder if you get extra rounds , will he get 60% dodge?

No, buffs don't stack. Also his buff only lasts 1 round iirc

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 14:00:29

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 13:59
No, buffs don't stack. Also his buff only lasts 1 round iirc

he has 100% fury regen, so its pretty much perm 30%, unless he misses XD, gotta get dat hitrate up

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 14:01:06

hes a pretty reliable partner tho, if you want to crit + break def. with a small heal

author: Suzuken time: 2015-12-20 14:03:33

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 21:57
Yeah, he's still not worth it though. It's more than easy enough for any high level player to get ...

200%+ crit ..
yeah you might wanna correct that before you give someone a heat attack

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 14:03:37

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 13:58
Yeah it's the same as B renji's mods. They don't say they surpass 90% but they do

btw, what evo is the surpass on? is it 1st or 2nd? i doubt they would do 3rd with 30%. but im not sure, this question is for brenji and ishida

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 14:03:54

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 14:01
hes a pretty reliable partner tho, if you want to crit + break def. with a small heal

He's definitely a lot better than people make him out to be. It's just that there's a LOT of other partners for the same price or even cheaper who are muucchhhhh better than he is.

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 14:04:49

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 14:03
He's definitely a lot better than people make him out to be. It's just that there's a LOT of other ...

true, also what is the surpass mod on ryuken and renji?

author: Gurr time: 2015-12-20 14:09:13

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 21:53
welp im getting him now. XD merry cmas

there is 1 problem with dodge... hit doesn't have upper limit and hit stones are more effective

author: NNatsu time: 2015-12-20 14:10:19

I didn't read the whole thread, I just wanted you to know that he's such a trashy partner that you should definitely not waste your money on him.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 14:13:06

Suzuken replied at 2015-12-20 14:03
200%+ crit ..
yeah you might wanna correct that before you give someone a heat attack

LOL thanks my mistake. Meant hit rate XD

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 14:13:38

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 14:03
btw, what evo is the surpass on? is it 1st or 2nd? i doubt they would do 3rd with 30%. but im not ...

I'm not sure what you're asking sorry. Could you clarify a bit?

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 14:14:57

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 14:13
I'm not sure what you're asking sorry. Could you clarify a bit?

what mod star is the surpass 90% on ishida and renji, like tier 1-6?

author: NNatsu time: 2015-12-20 14:15:04

Tbh this whole thread makes me cringe.
Pls don't buy him.

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 14:15:35

NNatsu replied at 2015-12-20 14:10
I didn't read the whole thread, I just wanted you to know that he's such a trashy partner that you s ...

how is he trashy?

author: Suzuken time: 2015-12-20 14:15:38

NNatsu replied at 2015-12-20 22:15
Tbh this whole thread makes me cringe.
Pls don't buy him.

calm down ... i feel like next time you're gonna drop a bomb in here XDD

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 14:17:10

im not sure many people have enough hitrate unless they are level 110+, to hit ryuken so idk if hes tht bad

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 14:18:19

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 14:14
what mod star is the surpass 90% on ishida and renji, like tier 1-6?

You know you could just look at his mods right? Ishida gets 10%, 20%, and 30%. B Renji gets 10%, and 20%.

author: NNatsu time: 2015-12-20 14:19:05

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 14:15
how is he trashy?

He's just not worth his price at all.
If you want to spend 12k on an extremely reliable partner that will help you out for probably the rest of the game by an extreme amount spend that 12k on Berserk Renji instead.
Ryuuken is a gimmicky partner that isn't hard to beat by anyone decent.

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 14:19:42

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 14:18
You know you could just look at his mods right? Ishida gets 10%, 20%, and 30%. B Renji gets 10%, a ...

you said he can surpass the 90% dodge, it doesnt say that in the mods, so im asking which specific one is it?

author: NNatsu time: 2015-12-20 14:20:13

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 14:19
you said he can surpass the 90% dodge, it doesnt say that in the mods, so im asking which specific ...

All of them.

author: NNatsu time: 2015-12-20 14:20:41

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 14:17
im not sure many people have enough hitrate unless they are level 110+, to hit ryuken so idk if hes ...

It's very easy to get over 200% hit lol, even for people under 110.
Dodge just isn't viable competitively.

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 14:22:09

NNatsu replied at 2015-12-20 14:20
It's very easy to get over 200% hit lol, even for people under 110.
Dodge just isn't viable competi ...

so 200 dodge, is countered by 200 hit? thats pretty dumb scaling.

author: NNatsu time: 2015-12-20 14:23:14

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 14:22
so 200 dodge, is countered by 200 hit? thats pretty dumb scaling.

Yes.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 14:23:21

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 14:19
you said he can surpass the 90% dodge, it doesnt say that in the mods, so im asking which specific ...

Okay I'll try spelling it out this way. If you have all 3 of ishida's mods and 90% worth of stones then you'll have an ishida with 150% dodge rate. If you have a B renji with both of his mods and 90% worth of stones, you'll have a B Renji with 120% crit rate

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 14:24:35

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 14:23
Okay I'll try spelling it out this way. If you have all 3 of ishida's mods and 90% worth of stones ...

oh, i thought dodge is a capped stat, like most cap at 90%

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 14:25:50

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 14:24
oh, i thought dodge is a capped stat, like most cap at 90%

..... I'm not sure what you're not understanding here lol.

author: NNatsu time: 2015-12-20 14:25:54

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 14:24
oh, i thought dodge is a capped stat, like most cap at 90%

It is, but this partners mods allow him to go over 90%.
Just like Renjis allow him to go over 90% crit.

author: rythen time: 2015-12-20 14:27:22

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 20:22
so 200 dodge, is countered by 200 hit? thats pretty dumb scaling.

isnt it 300% hitrate to counter 200% dodge? you need 190% hitrate to counter 90% dodgerate

author: kosmik time: 2015-12-20 14:27:52

dodge is basically useless at this point fighting against anyone who has even a decent hit rate. On a new server, sure, but why buy an "end game" partner to use just till everyone can hit him. Also, would need to be t1 to be useful, if I saw that your using kiskue to t1 him, your limited by kiskue's speed and are gonna get blown out of the water, sorry.

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 14:28:03

NNatsu replied at 2015-12-20 14:25
It is, but this partners mods allow him to go over 90%.
Just like Renjis allow him to go over 90% ...

yes i know, but im just wondering why his mods dont say he can surpass it, like this.Add 10% Combo Rate, can break 90% limit, i understand that he can break it now.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 14:28:21

rythen replied at 2015-12-20 14:27
isnt it 300% hitrate to counter 200% dodge? you need 190% hitrate to counter 90% dodgerate

Yes it is 300% hit rate to counter 200% dodge.

author: NNatsu time: 2015-12-20 14:28:49

rythen replied at 2015-12-20 14:27
isnt it 300% hitrate to counter 200% dodge? you need 190% hitrate to counter 90% dodgerate

I don't honestly know because I've never ran into someone who's tried to dodge me before lmfao

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 14:29:47

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 14:28
Yes it is 300% hit rate to counter 200% dodge.

does this also work in pve tho? because if so then pve hes a dodge king XD, unless they have a crap ton of hitrate. lol

author: NNatsu time: 2015-12-20 14:29:59

Edited by NNatsu at 2015-12-20 14:34

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 14:28
yes i know, but im just wondering why his mods dont say he can surpass it, like this.Add 10% Combo ...

This game is like that. Get used to it.
Oetsu has a 20% agility talent but is says intelligence.
Lots of things are like this.

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 14:31:04

NNatsu replied at 2015-12-20 14:29
This game is like that. Get used to it.
Oetsu has a 10% agility talent but is says intelligence.
...

oki, still might buy him doe, since there is like no info or battle reports for him, i must see him used.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 14:31:26

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 14:28
yes i know, but im just wondering why his mods dont say he can surpass it, like this.Add 10% Combo ...

For the same reason there's so many other things wrong with the text in this game. There was a mistake and no one bothered to fix it. Or maybe they just didn't want to write the extra text on each of the mods.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 14:32:16

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 14:29
does this also work in pve tho? because if so then pve hes a dodge king XD, unless they have a cra ...

Invincibility doesn't work in events so I see no reason why dodge would

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 14:32:41

NNatsu replied at 2015-12-20 14:29
This game is like that. Get used to it.
Oetsu has a 10% agility talent but is says intelligence.
...

*20%
Sorry had to correct it lol >.<

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 14:33:14

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 14:32
Invincibility doesn't work in events so I see no reason why dodge would

i ment just like pve in general, like realms and junk.

author: NNatsu time: 2015-12-20 14:33:27

Alright dude, a $300 waste of a partner but you do you.
You'll regret not getting one of the new partners probably immediately.

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 14:34:13

because after ishida kills assaulters he goes for supports, so if you had kensei with him he would kill as. + sup round 1 with enough speed XD. and luck

author: NNatsu time: 2015-12-20 14:34:27

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 14:32
*20%
Sorry had to correct it lol >.

Yeah, typo.
I corrected it.

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 14:35:02

NNatsu replied at 2015-12-20 14:33
Alright dude, a $300 waste of a partner but you do you.
You'll regret not getting one of the new par ...

ima prob get renji tho cause he is monster at leveling and pve ;p

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 14:36:25

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 14:34
because after ishida kills assaulters he goes for supports, so if you had kensei with him he would k ...

Again, this is only if you're facing people much weaker than you. All someone has to do is buy hiki (same price as ishida) and they'd easily outspeed you and destroy you without a second thought.

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 14:36:34

btw is it even possible to pass 90% combo? if not then kenseis mod is funny lol

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 14:39:46

Edited by domjiro at 2015-12-20 14:40

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 14:36
Again, this is only if you're facing people much weaker than you. All someone has to do is buy hik ...

oki hear me out ;p silly idea but, only use main and ryuken, stack ryuken and leave main naked, then dodge everything from enemys and win XD
unless they have high hitrate, but still most people like to put hitrate around all partners, no one just maxes hitrate unless they are there to specificaly target me.

author: JianJinhai time: 2015-12-20 14:43:21

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 14:39
oki hear me out ;p silly idea but, only use main and ryuken, stack ryuken and leave main naked, the ...

you just went full bonobo with this comment

author: noctustheking time: 2015-12-20 14:43:35

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 13:53
holy shit, rly?

if u have a gamuza nel she can debuff hit rate lol
itl be hell trying to hit him

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 14:44:11

JianJinhai replied at 2015-12-20 14:43
you just went full bonobo with this comment

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2015-12-20 14:51:36

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 19:22
so 200 dodge, is countered by 200 hit? thats pretty dumb scaling.

its 300 hit to 200 dodge isn't it

100% hit rate is the normal

100% dodge rate, to counter this you would need 200% hit rate

so 200% dodge rate = 300% hit rate needed

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 14:52:42

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-12-20 14:51
its 300 hit to 200 dodge isn't it

100% hit rate is the normal

yup, and i cant seem to find any people with 300% hitrate so. can someone show me ?

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 14:53:13

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-12-20 14:51
its 300 hit to 200 dodge isn't it

100% hit rate is the normal

I do feel I should add though that 300% hit is much easier to obtain than 200% dodge. Since you only need hit stones equaling 200% worth thanks to the natural 100% hit on everyone

author: rythen time: 2015-12-20 15:00:41

and even if your opponent can't reach 300% hit you still get affected by debuffs while dodging

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-12-20 15:01:30

doesnt matter if you can dodge if oatmeals mutilate lands on him

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 15:03:55

sirnibbles replied at 2015-12-20 15:01
doesnt matter if you can dodge if oatmeals mutilate lands on him

true =[, but if you are lucky since you stacked ishida you can 1 shot assaulters, then go for supports ;p and maybe with 1hp left kill vanguard XD

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 15:05:55

Edited by Kosmodestiny at 2015-12-20 15:17

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Posting this for the sole purpose of discouraging people from buying Ishida. I DID NOT merge stones for this. I only move around the ones I had so Oetsu had my best ones. All 4 of my other partners still had 180%+ hit rate too

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 15:08:56

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 15:05
Posting this for the sole purpose of discouraging people from buying Oetsu. I DID NOT merge stones ...

are you eu?

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 15:09:37

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 15:08
are you eu?

Why does it matter?

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 15:10:21

Edited by domjiro at 2015-12-20 15:12

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 15:09
Why does it matter?

because if you are eu, then i dont needa fight you there for not many people in us have 300+ hit ;p

maybe some people in us have 300+, but only if they try to focus it.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 15:13:40

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 15:10
because if you are eu, then i dont needa fight you there for not many people in us have 300+ hit ; ...

First of all if you ever try to fight me using Ryuuken then god help you.

Secondly I'm merge of US 117-122. Kind of surprised you're active on the forums and somehow don't know this yet. My server's one of the most publicized around.

Thirdly, if you think it's difficult for any top player to get their hit that high than you're wrong. Most people have their hit stones spread across their partners since they don't need high hit. All it takes is a couple seconds of work and anyone strong can get their hit rate to 300%. We all had to do it at some point to fight aizen after all

author: kosmik time: 2015-12-20 15:13:41

He made up his mind before he even made this post. Let him waste some money.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 15:14:57

kosmik replied at 2015-12-20 15:13
He made up his mind before he even made this post. Let him waste some money.

Oh I don't care if he buys him. I just don't want someone else who's maybe new seeing this post and getting the wrong idea just because this guy is so crazy for him.

author: NNatsu time: 2015-12-20 15:16:58

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 15:05
Posting this for the sole purpose of discouraging people from buying Oetsu. I DID NOT merge stones ...

Ryuuken*
I had to correct you, never discourage anyone from buying the god Oetsu.

author: kosmik time: 2015-12-20 15:17:24

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 15:14
Oh I don't care if he buys him. I just don't want someone else who's maybe new seeing this post an ...

Agreed. And he can't find a recent/decent battle report cause no one uses the fker. It's having the best tavern tosen out there, wewew.

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-12-20 15:18:08

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 15:05
Posting this for the sole purpose of discouraging people from buying Ishida. I DID NOT merge stones ...

how tf

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 15:18:27

NNatsu replied at 2015-12-20 15:16
Ryuuken*
I had to correct you, never discourage anyone from buying the god Oetsu.

Fixed it a split second before you posted this XD
I'm not thinking while typing this shit out lol. Just sort of on auto pilot

author: NNatsu time: 2015-12-20 15:19:07

domjiro replied at 2015-12-20 15:10
because if you are eu, then i dont needa fight you there for not many people in us have 300+ hit ;p ...

You're being an idiot.
We've told you multiple times dodge isn't viable because many, MANY people can easily get enough hit to hit you at your max dodge.
It's a garbage strategy that only works on a few garbage players.
If this is your way of trolling it's not all that great, you might wanna consider trying another forum.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 15:19:21

kosmik replied at 2015-12-20 15:17
Agreed. And he can't find a recent/decent battle report cause no one uses the fker. It's having ...

Lmao I know right? I have yet to run into anyone that even HAS him.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 15:20:28

sirnibbles replied at 2015-12-20 15:18
how tf

3 level 11 stones and 3 level 10's. It really wasn't hard to do lol. I already had them from beating aizen, just had them all spread out across everyone so I don't take up much space to get everyone to 200% hit

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-20 15:20:55

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 15:13
First of all if you ever try to fight me using Ryuuken then god help you.

Secondly I'm merge of U ...

im not gonna buy him anymore, because he gets hit by debuffs, not worth imo anymore ;p

author: NNatsu time: 2015-12-20 15:24:57

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 15:05
Posting this for the sole purpose of discouraging people from buying Ishida. I DID NOT merge stones ...

Might as well leave mine here as well.
I also didn't merge. This is three 10's, two 9's and an 11.

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-12-20 15:59:05

NNatsu replied at 2015-12-20 14:23
Yes.

No.

200 Dodge is countered by 300 hit.

author: Wooky2 time: 2015-12-20 16:06:08

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 13:57
Yeah, he's still not worth it though. It's more than easy enough for any high level player to get e ...

nooo its hard to hit someone at 130 dodge regardsless

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-12-20 16:07:03

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 15:05
Posting this for the sole purpose of discouraging people from buying Ishida. I DID NOT merge stones ...

That is one partner with high enough hit rate. If the others have 190%, they aren't touching Ryuuken.

Ideally you probably want Hiki in your Ryuuken team anyway. So that whole, outspeed Ryuuken thing doesn't really hold much merit.

That being said, if you are using Hiki, it probably doesn't matter what assaulter you use. I have switched from Yama, to Kensei, to random assaulters and had basically the same results.

As we discussed previously, specifically with NNatsu who has a hatred for all things Ryuuken, I think he is a good partner that people should keep in mind for the future. All these good Halo's coming out and partners with premium level debuffs, he could very well jump up. He is also a very, very good vanguard buster, which could easily take the place of Oetsu in my formation, using Oetsu specifically as a VG Killer.

At his current price, however, I would not recommend purchasing him. The only point at which I would ever recommend someone getting Ryuuken now, would be VIA Pyramid with a 20k top up, so you can pick him up for "free", and even then, it is only if there were good enough additional rebates.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 16:08:39

Wooky2 replied at 2015-12-20 16:06
nooo its hard to hit someone at 130 dodge regardsless

No, it's really not lol. Not for any of the higher level players

author: NNatsu time: 2015-12-20 16:11:02

Aristeaus replied at 2015-12-20 16:07
That is one partner with high enough hit rate. If the others have 190%, they aren't touching Ryuuk ...

Nah you're wrong, hes bad.
End of story.
Go buy Ryuuken though, that way when our CSB's merge I can beat you even easier.

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-12-20 16:13:27

NNatsu replied at 2015-12-20 16:11
Nah you're wrong, hes bad.
End of story.
Go buy Ryuuken though, that way when our CSB's merge I c ...

HO DAMN

CALLIN HIM OUT

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 16:13:41

Aristeaus replied at 2015-12-20 16:07
That is one partner with high enough hit rate. If the others have 190%, they aren't touching Ryuuk ...

Yes that is one partner with enough hit rate, against a partner who is not at all tanky. And Oetsu with the same amount of effort put into him as the ryuuken he's facing would EASILY squash ryuuken flat.
As for the hiki thing that's 100% irrelevant. This guy was asking about buying ryuuken to stack him. The point I was making was there a million partners that are better to stack for the same exact price. Ryuuken is a good partner, but he's absolutely eclipsed by other partner of the same exact price or cheaper. He's slow, he's not tanky, his gimmick is dodge which I just showed how easy it is to counter for anyone decent. He's just not worth it in the slightest thanks to the game's current meta. End of story.

author: NNatsu time: 2015-12-20 16:15:07

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 16:13
Yes that is one partner with enough hit rate, against a partner who is not at all tanky. And Oetsu ...

Nice avatar, ily even more now tbh.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-12-20 16:17:11

NNatsu replied at 2015-12-20 16:15
Nice avatar, ily even more now tbh.

XD Thanks. I keep staring at it lol. So beautiful <3

author: Wooky2 time: 2015-12-20 16:17:29

Edited by Wooky2 at 2015-12-20 16:19

guys even so a lot of people will have a hard time hitting him

how many people even have 180 hit rate  maybe at around 120 people will be able to not hit him without problem or if they have played for a year or so

how i think it goes on average

lvl             hit rate

100          160 probably

110             180-220

120             250 or more

the really crazy people that wont have trouble hitting unless paired with nel

we need a thread about highest hit rates
also i dont know the posters level so if he/she is under 110 maybe he can get some use if he buys mods

but without nel at late 110 it will be waaay less effective

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-12-20 16:18:22

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-12-20 22:17
XD Thanks. I keep staring at it lol. So beautiful

it really is beautiful

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-12-20 16:19:00

Brahmastra replied at 2015-12-20 16:18
it really is beautiful

preach it bae

author: NNatsu time: 2015-12-20 16:20:00

Wooky2 replied at 2015-12-20 16:17
guys even so a lot of people will have a hard time hitting him

how many people even have 180 hit ...

This is just incorrect. lol

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-12-20 16:21:45

Even though he's kinda cool I'd not recommend buying him since he's way too easy to counter

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