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author: MikkyX time: 2015-12-27 15:30:14 Title: B.Renji pvp slow

We all know Berserk renji is the best pve partner there is.  HIs damage is monstrous, very good.  But when it comes to pvp, I noticed he's very slow.  Kinda like yama slow or even lower, not sure, but he is slow.  Now on another thread somebody said he's good when combined with hikifune, but what if I don't have hikifune, is he still good for pvp?  Somebody got him in my server, put a level 120 set gear on him, some lvl 9 stones and stuff and I was surprised to notice how slow he was.
Having said that, how good would b.renji be in pvp, because if I don't want to solely get him for pve purposes, I might use him for pvp, but what troubles me is that he's too slow.

I've heard he's very good again, in soul map, 1vs1 fights, and group fights, but again too slow.  Not sure how good he'd be with aizen minions if he's that slow and I don't have hikifune.

Comments and thoughts about this will greatly be appreciated.

author: bwg2469 time: 2015-12-27 15:35:16

He's the clean up crew and is not used to go off first

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-27 15:37:29

i might just get hikifune, because everyone on my server runs a tenjiro XD, i wanna be able to own them all.

author: MikkyX time: 2015-12-27 15:37:42

bwg2469 replied at 2015-12-27 15:35
He's the clean up crew and is not used to go off first

Hmm makes sense. Well I do got a shini uruhara to silence supports, thing is I'm using zangetsu. Would a muramasa be better in this case? To Make supports faster take out enemy supports and then make b.renji finish up the process.

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-12-27 15:38:58

domjiro replied at 2015-12-27 15:37
i might just get hikifune, because everyone on my server runs a tenjiro XD, i wanna be able to own t ...

what does that have anything to do with this

but ya what bwg said

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-27 15:39:39

sirnibbles replied at 2015-12-27 15:38
what does that have anything to do with this

but ya what bwg said

nothing ;p

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-27 15:40:15

sirnibbles replied at 2015-12-27 15:38
what does that have anything to do with this

but ya what bwg said

i thought you could just talk in the forum posts, i didnt know you had to only answer the questions ;p.

author: MikkyX time: 2015-12-27 15:43:45

domjiro replied at 2015-12-27 15:40
i thought you could just talk in the forum posts, i didnt know you had to only answer the question ...

You need a certain level of trollness to be able to have that priviledge, lol.

I was gonna get hiki instead, since she has her accel mods going, but I didn't see the point if she wasn't t1 and I'm using kisuke, even with shinso she'd be kept back. What you need for her is a pure T1. That's why I'mma skipping her and perhaps going for b.renji.

author: bwg2469 time: 2015-12-27 15:48:28

MikkyX replied at 2015-12-27 12:37
Hmm makes sense. Well I do got a shini uruhara to silence supports, thing is I'm using zangetsu. ...

This is the best current example I can give you.

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-27 15:53:45

bwg2469 replied at 2015-12-27 15:48
This is the best current example I can give you.

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid= ...

hey bwg, whats your thoughts on hisagi? hes pretty tempting to get for pvp

author: bwg2469 time: 2015-12-27 15:59:59

domjiro replied at 2015-12-27 12:53
hey bwg, whats your thoughts on hisagi? hes pretty tempting to get for pvp

Don't know enough of him to really judge where he fits.

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-27 16:08:09

bwg2469 replied at 2015-12-27 15:59
Don't know enough of him to really judge where he fits.

yeh cause i could pick him up from cmas event for cheap, and his growths are nice, he get 4.5k agility, hiki only gets 3.5k but she has more stuff for agility. but still pretty good on him imo.

author: falcione time: 2015-12-27 16:08:28

domjiro replied at 2015-12-27 15:53
hey bwg, whats your thoughts on hisagi? hes pretty tempting to get for pvp

for that price u can get someone better

author: MikkyX time: 2015-12-27 16:12:57

bwg2469 replied at 2015-12-27 15:48
This is the best current example I can give you.

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid= ...

So you're our saviour now, lol. By the way, senju gives combo so does kensei, doesn't one overwrite the other?

author: domjiro time: 2015-12-27 16:12:59

falcione replied at 2015-12-27 16:08
for that price u can get someone better

true, but idk if i should get him or kensei, because hisagi does a crap ton more dmg. i like renji but hes super slow like this thread says. and since everyone in my server uses tenjiro idk how useful renji would be. hikifune is also a option but idk shes pretty over used and idk if shes that amazing (her fury reduction is good)

author: bwg2469 time: 2015-12-27 16:17:39

MikkyX replied at 2015-12-27 13:12
So you're our saviour now, lol. By the way, senju gives combo so does kensei, doesn't one overwri ...

Senju is combo for supporters and Kensei is for Assaulters

This is a PVE setup. I have had no reason to change into a PVP setup yet.

author: MikkyX time: 2015-12-27 16:20:16

bwg2469 replied at 2015-12-27 16:17
Senju is combo for supporters and Kensei is for Assaulters

This is a PVE setup. I have had no re ...

Ah o.k. I thought senju was for supporters and assaulters. I guess I saw wrong.

author: I_MIKE_I time: 2015-12-27 16:22:08

domjiro replied at 2015-12-27 16:08
yeh cause i could pick him up from cmas event for cheap, and his growths are nice, he get 4.5k agi ...

Hisagi only has stats+growth, but no speed talent or mod... at some point, I assume christmas Ichigo would be faster than him unless possibly if you count in that hisagi can use tier 11 hyogu while xmas ichigo could use only up to tier 10...

I dunno your formation, but you got senju from the event I assume... and hisagi has no bond with her, while Hikifune is absolutely required for her (speed bond).

author: MikkyX time: 2015-12-27 16:24:18

I_MIKE_I replied at 2015-12-27 16:22
Hisagi only has stats+growth, but no speed talent or mod... at some point, I assume christmas Ichi ...

Wait so normal partners can't use tier 11 hogu? I mean gold partners? Shini uruhara, isshin, kisuke. Can they use tier 11 hogu?

author: Evild4nte time: 2015-12-27 16:28:59

I think he is good in pvp, when u need to destroy a vg without oetsu or brukia.

For example this persons vg was always very annoying without a hard hitter like Brenji.

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US

author: I_MIKE_I time: 2015-12-27 16:31:26

Edited by I_MIKE_I at 2015-12-27 16:40

bwg2469 replied at 2015-12-27 16:17
Senju is combo for supporters and Kensei is for Assaulters

This is a PVE setup. I have had no re ...

Just wondering, your PvP formation would be Ichibe and Oetsu instead of the two assaulters, at least in the long run... correct?

@Mikky

Hyogu also play a mayor role when it comes to speed but Brenji's role in PvP would be clean up duty (unless you're in a position MILES ahead of your opposition).
Tier 11 Hyogu are red... afaik the partners need the quality of the hyogu or better, at least it's like that on the purple, blue and green partners.

author: theunknown404 time: 2015-12-27 17:07:43

bwg2469 replied at 2015-12-27 15:48
This is the best current example I can give you.

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid= ...

Is Senjumaru better than Retsu in PVE?

author: bwg2469 time: 2015-12-27 17:09:09

theunknown404 replied at 2015-12-27 14:07
Is Senjumaru better than Retsu in PVE?

For me the same but others uno might be better

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-12-27 17:26:49

He doesnt need to be fast, B.renji is to clean up the left overs and against STACKED VG.

author: MikkyX time: 2015-12-28 01:39:30

I_MIKE_I replied at 2015-12-27 16:31
Just wondering, your PvP formation would be Ichibe and Oetsu instead of the two assaulters, at leas ...

Tier 11 hogu are red. But can gold partners wear tier 11 hogu?

author: MikkyX time: 2015-12-28 01:41:32

Evild4nte replied at 2015-12-27 16:28
I think he is good in pvp, when u need to destroy a vg without oetsu or brukia.

For example this pe ...

Wow. That b.renji sure hit hard.

author: MikkyX time: 2015-12-28 01:46:04

Edited by MikkyX at 2015-12-28 01:47

bwg2469 replied at 2015-12-27 15:48
This is the best current example I can give you.

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid= ...

Hey bwg a.k.a. the saviour, you said you're a pve guy and have a pve set up,  Maybe you can help me with a question, if you can.  I currently use isshin, shura kenpachi  and main in assaulter line.  I was gonna get b.renji to replace shura kenp but 2 things worry me.

1. Shura ken's break def allows me to block more in ES, which right now helps in survivability, specially since our ES is at 153.  I fear if I take him out I won't last in ES, but I could be mistaken

2. Wouldn't a tier 11 hogu, be better than getting b.renji?  If I get b.renji, I'm flat broke, won't have any gold left to buy anything.  But if I don't get b.renji and get tier 11 hogu, that's like 50k attack boost on shura ken.  Wouldn't that be better?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

author: NNatsu time: 2015-12-28 01:50:32

MikkyX replied at 2015-12-28 01:46
Hey bwg a.k.a. the saviour, you said you're a pve guy and have a pve set up, Maybe you can help me ...

I don't think you understand just how much Berserk Renji will raise your damage lol.

author: MikkyX time: 2015-12-28 02:02:12

Edited by MikkyX at 2015-12-28 02:03

NNatsu replied at 2015-12-28 01:50
I don't think you understand just how much Berserk Renji will raise your damage lol.

Nope not really. I meant it's a tier 11 hogu, right now my hogu gives me like 8k strength it's a crappy rydojii. But with tier 11 that would be like a 60k boost in strength, only detail is that it's for shura kenpachi.

But by your response, I'm guessing that this doesn't matter. B. renji is way better to get than a tier 11, 60k attack boost on shura kenpachi. Am I right?

author: NNatsu time: 2015-12-28 02:09:45

MikkyX replied at 2015-12-28 02:02
Nope not really. I meant it's a tier 11 hogu, right now my hogu gives me like 8k strength it's a c ...

Yeah.
It's essentially like dealing an extra 2-3m damage on your Shura Kenpachi vs doing tens of millions of extra damage from Berserk Renji. Mix him with a combo'er like Isshin or Kensei so he can skill more often and go to town. Your whole team benefits, not just one character.

author: bwg2469 time: 2015-12-28 02:19:03

MikkyX replied at 2015-12-27 22:46
Hey bwg a.k.a. the saviour, you said you're a pve guy and have a pve set up, Maybe you can help me ...

B Renji's pve power is in his skill set. He buffs the teams damage and I do think having him over a rank 11 hugo is a better choice.

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-12-28 03:52:28

well no more input from me since you totally ignored my post.

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