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author: Hisayo time: 2014-10-2 18:52:46 Title: Hitsugaya

is he worth it from the lucy draw event or should i stick with sado then sajin?

author: tommymac009 time: 2014-10-2 19:01:42

hes totally worth it. I would say he's more tank able then sajin with all those decrease in attack and Break def and increasing his own block rate. But hes gonna be really expensive if your trying to get him.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-10-2 22:18:26

Edited by [email protected] at 2014-10-2 22:12

[ he's worth it if ur main char can stay alive after being hit by opponent's 10th skill ... only my opinion though for pvp]

author: [email protected] time: 2014-10-2 23:14:37

[ He is very worth it for early game, but if u want to save ur money, go for zangetsu when he comes out .... browser games get cheaper the longer they stay ]

author: TenzinNima time: 2014-10-3 05:05:07

He is worth for it..............

author: Glasglow time: 2014-10-3 08:14:32

Edited by Glasglow at 2014-10-3 07:33

tommymac009 replied at 2014-10-2 18:01
hes totally worth it. I would say he's more tank able then sajin with all those decrease in attack a ...

Sajin is the most tanky vanguard in the game, period, he is nowhere as near as beefy as komamura.

If you want to compare him, Toshiro is like Shinji, a bit better because he decreases break def, but worse because he doesn't hit the support like, like Shinji goes.

And if you want to benefit from a damage dealing vanguard, you also need a Vanguard oriented zanpakuto, which means that in most cases you will have to sacrifice your assaulters damage or supports damage/speed, ect.
Numbers alone he is amazing, but in the grand scheme of things, i don't think he is better than the free Shinji by much.

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As you see, he is slightly better Growthrate wise, but you should never even look at growth rate, the difference is very unimportant, that 0.2 or 0.4 growth rate is nothing in real numbers, as you should have seen from your main, as you unlock soul trees.

Basically what it comes down to is that, Shinji gets 15% increase damage , critical rate and block rate, while hitting the whole enemy team for 95% growth rate.

While Toshiro gets 150% growth rate damage on vanguard and assaulters, and he only gets 10% damage, no crit, but he gets 10% immunity and decreases enemy break defense and damage, which means that if you don't have enough break defense, he will almost always be blocking your attacks, but in higher level PvP that doesn't mean very much because mains use the 10th skill, so vanguard is always last to kill and Toshiro is not that tanky, so he won't survive as long as komamura for example.

You guys decide for yourself, yes Toshiro is cool, but is he that good? Not really, but he will be really good with high stones and for high vips that pour a lot of money into stones, i'll give you that. But for normal non vip players, or players that can't afford a lot of high level stones? He won't make much of a difference.

author: BaltasGatto time: 2014-10-3 08:30:13

only a little better ? .... lol so so far away for bying just only a little...

author: Brahmastra time: 2014-10-3 08:46:28

Glasglow replied at 2014-10-3 07:14
Sajin is the most tanky vanguard in the game, period, he is nowhere as near as beefy as komamura.

...

If his basic stats were between Starrk and Ichigo he'd have been awesome.
As for me I think I'm better off spending 18k gold on stones.. lel
Hitsugaya is just too situational for me.

author: Glasglow time: 2014-10-3 08:57:18

Brahmastra replied at 2014-10-3 07:46
If his basic stats were between Starrk and Ichigo he'd have been awesome.
As for me I think I'm be ...

Theoretically he is awesome, but in reality, your whole team will die and then the enemy will slowly kill toshiro at the end, thats basically how PvP goes in higher level, if your main has more AGI, you kill his team first and toshiro won't help him, but if his main has more agi, he kills your team first, lulz.

author: Brahmastra time: 2014-10-3 09:15:25

Glasglow replied at 2014-10-3 07:57
Theoretically he is awesome, but in reality, your whole team will die and then the enemy will slowl ...

Yeah I'm at that point now where I (sometimes) need another round to kill someones vanguard. Either way think I'll wait for Gin, the only partner I really wanted from the start.

author: MisterMusashi time: 2014-10-3 10:07:02

Edited by MisterMusashi at 2014-10-3 09:10

Glasglow replied at 2014-10-3 07:57
Theoretically he is awesome, but in reality, your whole team will die and then the enemy will slowl ...

This is why I want a vanguard with a self-heal. Super tempted to get Starrk but Ichigo might be better with that Aid Rate (if he gets to use it before everyone's dead).
I'm just hoping the self-healing vanguards, with all my strongest stuff, could handle the solos in Hollow Soul King w/e stuff.

author: Glasglow time: 2014-10-3 17:19:50

MisterMusashi replied at 2014-10-3 09:07
This is why I want a vanguard with a self-heal. Super tempted to get Starrk but Ichigo might be bet ...

Hopefully, i'm also more inclined to get stark than ichigo, since he is more pvp oriented.

author: rfreak time: 2014-10-3 17:26:05

Too expensive as usual

author: everflames time: 2014-10-3 17:28:23

I think I'll just stick with Sajin for now. Only 10 levels away from Coyote Stark.

author: Glasglow time: 2014-10-3 17:57:10

rfreak replied at 2014-10-3 16:26
Too expensive as usual

"too" is an understatement when he was 50$ on CN and 500$ here, haha

author: MisterMusashi time: 2014-10-6 08:43:39

Glasglow replied at 2014-10-3 16:19
Hopefully, i'm also more inclined to get stark than ichigo, since he is more pvp oriented.

Yeah, but you could end up with a problem I'm worried about that happened in late-ish game PvP (100-110+) and for longer than that in PvE -- that all attack can get blocked, even by strategy damage attackers like Supports which just nukes any physical Vanguard. Plus, with an Aid rate boost my guys will be more likely to survive nuke supports and strategy mains/all attacks in PvP.

author: Zahkor time: 2014-10-6 11:20:42

Glasglow replied at 2014-10-3 16:57
"too" is an understatement when he was 50$ on CN and 500$ here, haha

Toooooooo expensive?

author: [email protected] time: 2014-10-6 21:23:34

Zahkor replied at 2014-10-6 10:20
Toooooooo expensive?

[ u get a cookie ]

author: Hisayo time: 2014-10-6 21:49:22

Thanks Everyone for the feedback, im glad i didnt get him then im still only lvl 60 atm ill just grab sajin at 70

author: Nazhrael time: 2016-2-14 13:06:15

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-2 23:14
[ He is very worth it for early game, but if u want to save ur money, go for zangetsu when he comes ...

It's been 2 years and its still expensive!

author: noctustheking time: 2016-2-14 13:31:49

hes good i have him dont use him anymore since i have TSI
i recommend you get sophisticated rangiku she is better

heals herself and supprots + gives aid rate very worth it

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-2-14 14:18:04

Here's my soph if it helps
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or if it doesn't, still, her she is, lol

author: coolpoint99 time: 2016-10-21 14:27:54

Nazhrael replied at 2016-2-15 02:06
It's been 2 years and its still expensive!

u can get him tho on Black Market for 500 gold if ur lucky...

author: MylarHyrule time: 2016-10-21 16:38:54

in retrospect, I'd call Toshi a PVE vanguard, and can be very decent if stacked on, and paired with a built up Hyorin... however, with the same work many other vangs can be just as good... for 500 gold, he's worth it as a late Ryoka vang if your willing to build up another partner, otherwise, move on

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